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passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
11. I think this can be blamed on the polls
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:58 AM
Nov 2015
People should hesitate before implying that Bernie Sanders and his supporters are not Democrats.


The polls show the majority voting for Hillary. I think the polls are wrong, because they don't include the current state of tech and how younger people use it.

But it does make us look like a minority, so of course WE are the ones who are not true democrats.

I wish there was a way to correct the polls. Lots of people depend on the polls to sway them.

If this rift is so big it causes our party to split permanently, who will be responsible? We think the third way will be, they think we will be.

I wonder if there is a way to split DU GDP into two groups. Democratic Socialists (Left leaning) versus Third Way Dems (Moderates). Two groups who have separate primary political discussions so there isn't so much infighting, but all other forums are shared, so we can still mix ideas and hopefully sway people to change sides.

If one wants to wander into the discussion of the opposition, they know they have to behave themselves (no attacks or smearing their candidate...just calm rational conversation about policy differences with links to back it up), or be permanently blocked (until the primary election is over the the GDP groups are dissolved. But they cannot be blocked just for having a different opinion...so conversations can still happen. They just aren't allowed to go rancid like they have here in GDP. Maybe you shouldn't even be able to start new threads in your opposition group, just chime in on existing threads.

Bernie and O'Malley would fall into the socialist group and Hillary would fall into the third way group. They would still be run the same way GDP is now, just with tighter rules. Not like the smaller candidate support groups where hosts are free to block anyone for any reason.

I think this makes more sense than what we have going on now. And people might not be getting timed out and banned so often.

Just something to think about (and/or improve upon)

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I think that if the Republicans didn't have a cavalcade of contemptible clowns campaigning.. aidbo Nov 2015 #1
Don't think Jeb! is looking very inevitable right now. madfloridian Nov 2015 #2
John Ellis Bush the evitable! aidbo Nov 2015 #5
He was next in the dynasty for sure. Then probably George P. madfloridian Nov 2015 #22
Bernie appeals to our basic humanity and interdependence, not baser instincts of greed & avarice. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #3
Most everyone I talk to around here are Republicans. madfloridian Nov 2015 #4
republicans around here have really warmed to Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #33
Good point about spelling it out. How long since someone has done that? madfloridian Nov 2015 #42
Bernie appeals to people's better nature. Doesn't matter whether they are Repubs, Libertarians, sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #6
...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #7
And those around my area see it, surprisingly. madfloridian Nov 2015 #8
Basic humanity and interdependence LWolf Nov 2015 #18
We have gotten so far away from it since the DLC declared... madfloridian Nov 2015 #21
Yes. LWolf Nov 2015 #26
It meant essentially shoving most party members to the side... madfloridian Nov 2015 #31
Absolutely. This is why I think Hillary's pitch to "lower tax on the middle class" is pathetic 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #27
Tax cuts. Shades of Ronald Reagan. LWolf Nov 2015 #29
I'm with you, MadFloridian. I cannot vote for Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #9
K&R nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #10
I think this can be blamed on the polls passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #11
That is the goal of the polls imo...to make us look like a minority. madfloridian Nov 2015 #34
I see Third Way as very conservative, not moderate. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #37
Yes, I agree with you. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #38
Kick and R BeanMusical Nov 2015 #12
Up until 6 months ago Sen. David Vitter was dae Nov 2015 #13
From your keyboard to the electorate. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #23
I'm nitpicking, but.. aidbo Nov 2015 #30
I was trying to avoid his 3 laws since the up and down was dae Nov 2015 #39
“the largest peacetime expansion of government in modern American history,” Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #14
Perhaps they're referring to "declared" war? madfloridian Nov 2015 #35
Perhaps the Wall Street Journal knows it's a show. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #36
Huge K&R mad. stillwaiting Nov 2015 #15
I have noticed. madfloridian Nov 2015 #28
This pretty much sums it up for me. Kentonio Nov 2015 #16
I think Hillary has finally understood that.. DianeK Nov 2015 #17
My fear is... madfloridian Nov 2015 #19
fortunately Sanders knows the stats on how well we've been "kept safe" (and that it MisterP Nov 2015 #25
Kick FloriTexan Nov 2015 #20
Thanks. madfloridian Nov 2015 #41
"People should hesitate before implying that Bernie Sanders and his supporters are not Democrats." jtuck004 Nov 2015 #24
Very Good!!! LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #32
...... madfloridian Nov 2015 #40
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