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ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
33. First of all...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:09 PM
Nov 2015

...I knew, way back then, that it was a big mistake to give her the reins on the health care bill. Not because she was not capable, but because at the time she was *not elected*. In my opinion that was one of the factors that doomed her efforts from the beginning. As someone else pointed out in another thread, that sort of thing is usually delegated to one's vice president, not one's spouse.

Secondly, her efforts were very similar to what we got with ACA: a complicated system that tries to give citizens a slightly better deal, slightly better access to health *insurance* (as distinguished from *care*), while protecting the position of the private insurers. In other words, a bandaid on a huge gaping wound. The insurers loved the mandate, they just hated the extra regulations that came with it.

Like Obama, Clinton will not consider single payer in any form. One can speculate on why that is, but it is a fact. Ergo, the health care industry as it exists today will like her better than they like Sanders.

As for details, there are plenty of details out there including the bill that Sanders introduced in 2013. Not that hard to find. Unless for some strange reason, one does not want to find it.

Here are links to a summary & full text of the 2013 Single Payer bill Sanders submitted to congress think Nov 2015 #1
LOL hill2016 Nov 2015 #9
Canada's healthcare system developed in a similar fashion. Does America lack the ability think Nov 2015 #14
Too many red states exist--Look at what has happened to the folks in riversedge Nov 2015 #27
I posted this earlier today Jarqui Nov 2015 #2
like Hillary pointed out during the second debate hill2016 Nov 2015 #10
Medicare.For.All. Karma13612 Nov 2015 #13
Which Red states do not have Medicare? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #35
I have no idea why anyone thinks we can get single payer through congress. bravenak Nov 2015 #3
And you think Hillary can Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #4
No. That's why these crazy promises make me irritated. bravenak Nov 2015 #6
We can agree on something Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #8
LOL! The Clintons couldn't get HeritageFoundationCare through Congress. merrily Nov 2015 #7
A good chunk of the New Deal was passed using executive orders AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #36
Wow another post against Bernie Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #5
no hill2016 Nov 2015 #11
Link to one that called you an idiot Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #12
here you go hill2016 Nov 2015 #15
Here is the funding method from the link I provided you previously above: think Nov 2015 #17
I guess that is not good enough Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #21
You and your darn facts. LOL. Vinca Nov 2015 #22
Holy crap ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #26
It's way cheaper than what we have now AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #37
That's a link to your own post Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #20
You said: "There's nothing medically that can be done to cure diabetes or obesity right?" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #40
So right here in this thread... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #34
For Profit Healthcare Is So Wrong colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #16
Do you know the Health Care Reform Plan of the Clinton Administration and in 2008? Rilgin Nov 2015 #18
Bernie wrote the provisions in ACA for community health karynnj Nov 2015 #19
He's also responsible for the opening of local VA satellite clinics. Vinca Nov 2015 #23
Exactly, both of these are important and help people and he is the primary legislator karynnj Nov 2015 #24
"...lead Senator on the entire VA bill." tazkcmo Nov 2015 #30
Yes she has! MoonRiver Nov 2015 #25
+1 NurseJackie Nov 2015 #28
That's what I think too. Hoyt Nov 2015 #31
And failed. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #29
You are not allowed UglyGreed Nov 2015 #32
Two words. Hillary Care. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #39
First of all... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #33
She was pushing insurance reform AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #38
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