2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie on creating a caring nation. And me on the harm of the inevitabiity aura. [View all]passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I think of a moderate as being socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. Which, to me, is not the real goal of Democrats. Or should not be.
Although I think the current moderate dem is even more moderate on many social issues too. Like poverty...they just don't seem to care much about poverty, health care, education and jobs/livable wages for everyone, even though they are social problems, not just fiscal problems. I do think 'moderate' has moved much further right today than it used to be. I think Third Way Dems are actually Conservative lights...or moderate conservatives, rather than moderate Dems.
The majority of Americans do seem to be leaning socially and fiscally liberal to me. Bernie is not just liberal, he's a democratic socialist...a real progressive, no holds barred. So those of us who support Bernie have a strong democratic socialist leaning. That really seems to scare moderates. Moderate dems forget that FDR was a democratic socialist too.
I think this country needs to be educated a lot on what democratic socialism is, and why it works and is best for the country, both socially and fiscally. We have a lot of educating to do.
Third Way dems like it when Hillary lies about Bernie's policies to make them seem unattainable or too expensive. To me that means they either don't understand how they work at all, or they really don't like his policies...they really want to be conservatives but have held the label of dem for so long they are embarrassed to give it up.