2016 Postmortem

EndElectoral

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150. It's nothing like that.

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:19 PM

Nov 2015

The onus of the article implies men who oppose Hillary have a gender bias. The previous poster was simply saying he'd vote for Elizabeth Warren.

Why? His point was to show that men are not opposing Hillary because they have a gender bias. They simply may not like her policies.

For many the IWR is a big decision maker on many progressive voters plate. Some, like myself, could never vote for Kerry or Biden for precisely this reason. Why would I vote for Hilary if that was the primary reason I couldn't support either of the other gentlemen?

Elizabeth Warren will and has taken a much stronger prosecutorial approach to Wall Street. She advocates an approach that I agree with regarding the financial sector. I sincerely beleive if she was running she would not be taking gobs of campaign money from the big investment banks.

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Hating Hillary: The One Thing Left and Right Men Can Agree On [View all] ismnotwasm Nov 2015 OP

Yeah, but all of the Hillary haters at DU are from the Left. onehandle Nov 2015 #1

. BootinUp Nov 2015 #17

Well, I certainly HOPE so ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #18

I think they PRETEND to be from the left, lots of 'em. nt MADem Nov 2015 #106

Or...... Phlem Nov 2015 #2

Valid policy disagreements must be labled as "hate" so as to dismiss them in advance. arcane1 Nov 2015 #4

You don't think Hillary has experienced misogyny disguised as "criticism"? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #9

I said no such thing, and you know it n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #13

I was asking for clarification ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #14

I think she has indeed experienced sexist-based criticism. arcane1 Nov 2015 #23

Then you would probably agree with the article ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #26

I'm in much more agreement with the content than the headline n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #64

Yeah the headline is misleading when I think about it ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #72

There is broad-brushing coming from every direction, even the directions we each favor. arcane1 Nov 2015 #80

That's for sure ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #130

Many whine about sexism but many Hillary haters love warren! Explain that! Nt Logical Nov 2015 #51

Oooops....... Fuddnik Nov 2015 #109

The hate for Clinton on the left goes way back. Buzz cook Nov 2015 #118

Excellent analysis! mcar Nov 2015 #123

I do. But I also see attempts to shut down any criticism of HRC with "misogynist man Hillary-hate!" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #144

I'm a woman, 72 years old, and I think that Hillary is a mediocre politician and a conservative. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #151

*Mic drop* Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #24

I dislike conservatives of all genders and parties Doctor_J Nov 2015 #68

I also like these paragraphs ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #3

Maybe that line would sell better before the boilerplate Neocon speech she gave a few days ago. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #5

You just hush ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #10

Ah, an insightful, measured, policy-focused response. We thank you. n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #28

Who is this "we" of whom you speak? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #30

The internet masses. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #31

Tch. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #37

Nah, that's not silly. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #45

No you jumping on a thread addressing sexism is silly. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #50

It's a thread about Hillary Clinton, in GD-P. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #54

Now now ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #55

I did. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #58

I did ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #60

Why don't you tell us what was so neocon about it? BainsBane Nov 2015 #41

Show me where I "lied about my age", first. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #48

Suggesting the President go to congress for authorization is neoconservative? BainsBane Nov 2015 #77

eh, believe what you want. You think "I hit the wrong button" was me being "sheepish" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #79

Whatever. Answer the question about neoconservatives. BainsBane Nov 2015 #88

I did. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #115

The clear intent is to present her as like the Bush administration BainsBane Nov 2015 #136

and I explained why, didn't I? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #143

Hillary is fairly hawkish. Those who are supporting her in the primary should just admit it. phleshdef Nov 2015 #92

Yeah, I don't dispute that BainsBane Nov 2015 #99

Well "neocon" use to mean the PNAC crew... but now its become kind of a synonym for hawks. phleshdef Nov 2015 #102

The intent is to lump her in with PNAC BainsBane Nov 2015 #107

A lot of people here think "progressive" is a synonym for liberal, and they think MADem Nov 2015 #112

I've been seeing Thatcher mentioned on this board mcar Nov 2015 #74

Wow. So "has a different preference" = hate.. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #6

I also like this paragraph ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #11

I would vote for Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #7

Please don't say that in this context. frazzled Nov 2015 #82

It's nothing like that. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #150

It's not exactly like that. Wilms Nov 2015 #8

Now that's quite clever. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #12

Plus, everyone likes kittens. :D Wilms Nov 2015 #16

True! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #19

Ain't that the truth MaggieD Nov 2015 #15

OK then, Twilight zone time and I'm out! Phlem Nov 2015 #20

You are hurting my feelings ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #22

It's actually a pretty awesome article ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #21

" a rampaging, pantsuited giantess the size of a skyscraper"...LOL! ...Hey, politics, ain't beanbag. reformist2 Nov 2015 #25

The topic is misogyny ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #27

+1 MaggieD Nov 2015 #34

Pffft. Hillary has been front and center her whole life. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #67

I disagree. I favor Bernie but would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat. kimbutgar Nov 2015 #29

Then you don't have Hillary hate ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #33

Except no one here is saying stupid shit like that ibegurpard Nov 2015 #32

Nobody? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #35

I think you need to discern "won't vote for 3rd way" from "hate her"... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #36

Then you don't have Hillary hate ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #38

Thanks for your confirmation... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #40

Well I'll give you a hint ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #49

Indeed, it is! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #53

You betcha! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #56

I'm with this person. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #97

I am a man kenn3d Nov 2015 #39

Oh- OH! There is absolutely NO need to apologize ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #44

Lol Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #65

Yeah, there hadn't been enough bullshit smeared on DU recently. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #42

No? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #47

You have been busy. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #52

Not really ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #62

Except it's NOT "bullshit". Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #69

That sexism is denied amazes me ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #71

Yes, it's utterly impossible for my feeble male brain to understand my own thought processes. jeff47 Nov 2015 #76

Yep, that's exactly what I said! Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #78

Yeah, thoughts like sexism have nothing to do with thoughts. jeff47 Nov 2015 #81

Tell me jeff - Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #83

Reply 69 and 78 jeff47 Nov 2015 #84

See? Misdirection. Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #87

Quoting your own words is misdirection. jeff47 Nov 2015 #89

Lol. Okay. Whatever you say. Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #90

Hey look! It's another post where you claim to do my thinking for me! jeff47 Nov 2015 #94

Agreed. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #100

Hate: such a strong word and I don't feel that Jarqui Nov 2015 #43

Then you don't have Hillary hate ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #46

It will be good to see those who refuse to vote Democratic redstateblues Nov 2015 #66

Yeah ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #70

Also from the article: Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #57

I can honestly say I no longer get mad at Sanders. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #59

good for you. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #61

Ain't THAT the truth ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #63

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #73

Have you, gulp, actually SEEN such a creature? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #75

no! it's the devil's joystick! blocking us from applauding things like the TPP or preparing to send MisterP Nov 2015 #85

Oh dear ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #104

Yep-it has absolutely nothing to do with her Wall Street Love. jalan48 Nov 2015 #86

I am man. I am on the left. I highly respect Hillary Clinton... still voting for Bernie, sorry. phleshdef Nov 2015 #91

Good for you! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #110

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #93

LOL, what? Bernie does absolutely nothing for my "willy". phleshdef Nov 2015 #95

Hmmm. If she gets into the WH won't Bill Clinton be there jwirr Nov 2015 #96

Wow, that doesn't sounds like a very strong candidate for a general election. fbc Nov 2015 #98

If Democrats don't vote for her ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #108

Not to mention so-called "left" women too! George II Nov 2015 #101

Yeah I added that caveat ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #133

Widespread hatred of Hillary will lead to a Rubio victory. BenGrimm Nov 2015 #103

I'm pretty sure you're wrong ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #105

Well duh! If a man doesn't like Hillary, MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #111

What about women who hate endless war and unaccountable banksters? eridani Nov 2015 #113

Yes they certainly are and were ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #128

Only if your main qualification for POTUS is that she be a woman n/t eridani Nov 2015 #149

Disagree with her = hate AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #114

No ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #129

Of course hate is hate, but... AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #134

Oh look: it's yet another instance of the gender card being played. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #116

I have read many of these vile comments on DU over last few months. riversedge Nov 2015 #120

Case in point: the above. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #140

Reading the article before commenting is a GOOD thing! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #125

Thanks for the break. No and no. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #141

I'm a man and a leftist. I don't hate Hillary I just think she's unfit to hold public office. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #117

Hmm ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #126

It maybe more effective silenttigersong Nov 2015 #119

Wait, Wut? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #132

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Nov 2015 #121

So both the left and the right hate her, but some still insist that she's electable. Weird. Scuba Nov 2015 #122

Oh dear ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #127

I won't be voting for hrs in the primaries... smiley Nov 2015 #124

Okey dokey ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #131

Complete bull. Sexist labels don't stick. Have fun trying. Fearless Nov 2015 #135

Don't worry if Bernie doesn't win the primary I would be voting for the first Female President Lans Nov 2015 #137

The sexist rhetoric is blatant and they are becoming more an more comfortable.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #138

Yes, it is all fun and play with the sexist comments and slurs and insults, until someone pokes seabeyond Nov 2015 #146

You've been trying to shoe-horn this one in for some time, haven't you? Romulox Nov 2015 #139

And you are? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #148

I agree that misogyny and sexism are alive and well Flying Squirrel Nov 2015 #142

If it makes any difference... Chan790 Nov 2015 #145

Now that I believe ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #147

She's not my first choice of candidates. JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #152

I think Hillary supporters have a bit of an ego-complex when it comes to Hillary. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author Shankapotomus Nov 2015 #154

I don't hate Hillary Clinton. I don't fucking KNOW her. I just don't want her to be my President. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #155