2016 Postmortem

BootinUp

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364. People who aren't trade and or economic experts

Fri Nov 27, 2015, 12:26 PM

Nov 2015

and don't even know jack about a particular trade deal are not the folks I would listen to. That includes many politicians, and bloggers and other assorted know-it-alls out for attention. Trade deals can be good, bad, mostly good, mostly bad. The devils are in the details as I understand it.

I get the fear though, its not like I don't wish things were easier out there myself. But I suggest folks should be more skeptical of politicians that might be using an issue just to get support.

As for Hillary. I would describe her as someone who will fight for better trade deals for Americans. She is not going to fight against any and all trade deals no. You want someone that is against it without knowing whats in it, I get that.

As Krugman has said there are other important economic issues that liberals should be focused on at least as much if not more. There is no silver bullet.

Here's a question for you, what do you think is easier for a politician to do, explain the complicated truth or just sell a simple black and white story? Which is more responsible?

Cya.

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Bernie bragging about Republican support [View all] MaggieD Nov 2015 OP

If he can pull voters away from the Republicans I would think that is a good thing Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #1

He wants republicans to vote in Dem primaries MaggieD Nov 2015 #3

He wants Republicans to leave the Republican party and vote for Democrats Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #7

And yet we complain here about how many conservatives are now Democrats Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #43

But Bernie is not taking conservative positions Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #52

That's dishonest. He's changing their minds, which is a good thing. arcane1 Nov 2015 #201

I think there are some here that are confusing Republican populists with conservatives... cascadiance Nov 2015 #347

consersvative populism dsc Nov 2015 #354

If it gives us more votes to stop TPP and those supporting it... cascadiance Nov 2015 #357

you dance with those who brung you dsc Nov 2015 #359

And the Clintons danced with the Koch brothers and the DLC who "brung them"! cascadiance Nov 2015 #361

except to conservative populists dsc Nov 2015 #365

And you think that if a few of them vote for Bernie, he'll do their bidding? cascadiance Nov 2015 #370

He will ignore those issues dsc Nov 2015 #373

BS! Was he "ignoring" civil rights in the 60's LEADING anti-segregation protests? cascadiance Nov 2015 #375

Sure you can. Chan790 Nov 2015 #383

The OP was created because Hillary has no crossover appeal AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #176

+1 !!! kristopher Nov 2015 #328

The underlying message seems to be... msrizzo Nov 2015 #12

Exactly MaggieD Nov 2015 #19

You make that perfectly clear in many of your posts. pangaia Nov 2015 #37

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #80

Sanders is a .. a.. "huckster?""" pangaia Nov 2015 #88

Absolutely he is.... MaggieD Nov 2015 #92

A post getting hidden for saying that treestar Nov 2015 #114

I wouldn't call it just partisanship, more like BootinUp Nov 2015 #123

Yes... Skidmore Nov 2015 #346

+1. But the "Pimped" thread is going strong. n/t MeNMyVolt Nov 2015 #147

But you're fooled by the biggest huckster Hillary Politicalboi Nov 2015 #96

watch out you 'll get a hide treestar Nov 2015 #116

Fooled by "the biggest huckster in history", bvar22 Nov 2015 #192

I feel the same way about you. 840high Nov 2015 #238

+ one million. They just want to get Hillary out of the way, just to go back lunamagica Nov 2015 #95

That's a very cynical view TheFarseer Nov 2015 #166

Were you aware that predictwise has Hillary at 59% BootinUp Nov 2015 #180

Tell me how Hillary appeals to Republicans who like Trump's anti-TPP and anti-H-1B messages... cascadiance Nov 2015 #348

Why focus on TPP? Trumpkins main issue BootinUp Nov 2015 #352

So, how do you "know" that reason is what drives them? Do you identify with their needs too? cascadiance Nov 2015 #353

I simply described the loudmouth jerk. BootinUp Nov 2015 #356

Umm... she was FOR it before she was "against it" sir! And helped NEGOTIATE it as SOS!!! cascadiance Nov 2015 #360

People who aren't trade and or economic experts BootinUp Nov 2015 #364

Most of what we hear come through corporate filters, that are also NOT who to listen to... cascadiance Nov 2015 #368

I shared my decision making process and you have shared yours BootinUp Nov 2015 #374

And BOTH this administration and she support corporate interests on this over our interests! cascadiance Nov 2015 #376

Predictwise can predict my continued dismissal of stupid prediction websites Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #367

Some folks might not know what it is BootinUp Nov 2015 #371

Well, conveniential wisdom Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #379

The overlying message IS Hillary has zero crossover appeal AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #183

" will go right back to their party" Yallow Nov 2015 #229

Can repubs even vote in Dem primaries? Cha Nov 2015 #306

In "Open primary" states like California and Washington they can! cascadiance Nov 2015 #349

It's called reaching out for common ground Joe Turner Nov 2015 #45

No. He wants human beings to vote for him in primaries. pangaia Nov 2015 #48

that does not sound very logical treestar Nov 2015 #118

nuance, details,... all people who lean republican politically pangaia Nov 2015 #126

If you want to understand, you must educate yourself AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #191

Your loathing has been evident for months, now! Divernan Nov 2015 #85

Is that against the rules now? Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #211

This is so funny to see in writing... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #309

No, not really... Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #312

Depends on what rules you mean... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #322

Let's be clear. floriduck Nov 2015 #155

So you loathe him because of something you just made up? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #172

Well at least you admit that you're a hater who gotta hate... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #308

Every day you are more and more desperate! nt Logical Nov 2015 #321

The Op is referring to "Undecided Voters" which every candidate needs to win FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #90

Reaching across the isle PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #2

Obama did not campaign to republicans in the primary MaggieD Nov 2015 #4

The views you express on this board PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #5

Right back atcha MaggieD Nov 2015 #10

Bernie Never ASKED republicans for their support liberalnarb Nov 2015 #170

Shes using her patented bobblehead move she perfected with blm SwampG8r Nov 2015 #193

OK? What does that have to do with pandering to rethugs? liberalnarb Nov 2015 #196

Its off topic. She looks like.a bobblehead SwampG8r Nov 2015 #234

OK then liberalnarb Nov 2015 #244

Please link to where Sanders did that AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #226

Funny, such a busy poster hasn't replied to this. cui bono Nov 2015 #387

It's an old Rush Limbaugh trick redstateblues Nov 2015 #313

On this board, he is called limpballs PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #345

People who post at the Clinton Cave and then troll DU with their hate and lies disgust me. cui bono Nov 2015 #385

Bernie doesn't chase the Repubs to attract votes unlike the corporate Dems. Broward Nov 2015 #6

Oh yes he does MaggieD Nov 2015 #8

I think you are confusing him with Hillary Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #18

No he did not MaggieD Nov 2015 #20

No you are the one who doesn't know about him if you claim he voted for the IWR Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #29

He has voted for EVERY war funding bill MaggieD Nov 2015 #34

Which war funding bills did Hillary vote against? Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #38

Crickets, lol Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #58

So you'd rather leave the troops with sticks and stones to fight once they are out of ammo? Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #42

He's a warmonger and a MIC supporter MaggieD Nov 2015 #53

Whatever. Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #61

Yes, his record IS clear MaggieD Nov 2015 #62

Links? Put up or shut up. cui bono Nov 2015 #389

So do you also consider Hillary a warmonger and MIC supporter? Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #67

Brava! MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #71

You forgot your sarcasm thingy Politicalboi Nov 2015 #110

When he signs his posts "TWM", it's his way of including the "sarcasm thingy". Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #325

Hillary lied to get us into Iraq. She's a war monger who laughs about it. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #136

yes his record is clear: he is NOT a war monger Karma13612 Nov 2015 #253

Links? Put up or shut up. cui bono Nov 2015 #388

There is a very simple way to both defund the war okasha Nov 2015 #271

So is this a "war mongering" funding bill that Bernie has pushed?... cascadiance Nov 2015 #351

In my view, oyu might want to dig a little deeper into pangaia Nov 2015 #51

LOL tammywammy Nov 2015 #93

there was no funding bill for the Iraq war karynnj Nov 2015 #194

Sanders voted to fund the Defense Department in fiscal year 2003 ucrdem Nov 2015 #205

the defense bill did not fund the war karynnj Nov 2015 #215

Can you link or give the legislative title or number? TIA! nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #220

Found it, but it was the following October, and for "defense and reconstruction" ucrdem Nov 2015 #224

Voting on continuing funding is very different than voting to abdicate your constitutional duty cui bono Nov 2015 #386

Sanders destroys the Military Industrial Complex AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #209

Actually, he does. All Democrats voted FOR the Brady Bill. He voted against it - 5 times. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #16

Name one area of gun control in which Hillary disagrees with him. AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #210

Did you read my post? Because you'd have your answer right there. Here's just ONE: the PLCAA. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #267

He stated it pretty clearly AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #336

And he's lying. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #380

Yeah, of course he is AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #381

Thank you for wasting my time. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #382

Then how is he going to attract Republicans? treestar Nov 2015 #124

He doesn't even have to try AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #212

But h seems to be chasing off progressives... artislife Nov 2015 #326

Hillary has no crossover appeal AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #9

You don't know that? MaggieD Nov 2015 #13

So you admit just made it up. AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #25

I can admit you seem not to know your candidate MaggieD Nov 2015 #35

Hot air AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #138

Links? Put up or shut up. cui bono Nov 2015 #390

What works in Vermont should stay in Vermont. ucrdem Nov 2015 #11

They make salad and eat bread in Vermont AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #222

LOL ucrdem Nov 2015 #230

So does this mean you will never eat Ben & Jerry's ice cream again? cascadiance Nov 2015 #355

I can probably resist the Boysen-Bernie ... ucrdem Nov 2015 #406

How boring vanilla... optics issue. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2015 #408

Okay how about Coconut Clinton Crunch ucrdem Nov 2015 #409

That looks pretty tasty. I like... SMC22307 Nov 2015 #410

That one would double as a barbecue sauce ucrdem Nov 2015 #412

Bernie's rhetoric focuses on income inequality but not minority rights BootinUp Nov 2015 #14

Agreed it won't help him win MaggieD Nov 2015 #22

When was the last time you listened to any of Bernie's speeches? Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #369

Never. cui bono Nov 2015 #392

You would think that if all you read is DU. cui bono Nov 2015 #391

And yet there's this: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #15

You're deflecting. MaggieD Nov 2015 #24

She doesn't need to campaign to them The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #36

You are sooooo right Politicalboi Nov 2015 #145

Links to Bernie doing this please.. thanks! cui bono Nov 2015 #393

Clinton certainly need not worry about any crossover appeal. Let's discuss "Grassley worries about Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #17

As an Iowan, I'll tell you Grassley is a partisan buffoon emulatorloo Nov 2015 #74

Because Obama hated Republicans. LWolf Nov 2015 #21

Because we will just put those social justice, wedge issues to the side. A fav for the Republicans. seabeyond Nov 2015 #23

Thread win ^^^^^^^^ MaggieD Nov 2015 #27

I said same but with much less fire. BootinUp Nov 2015 #32

Hence, why I am often kicked off and you are not. These are Sanders words. seabeyond Nov 2015 #40

Those were his words? Link to the quotes please. Thanks! cui bono Nov 2015 #395

Lol, a supporter of the conservative candidate complaining about Bernie appealing to the right. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #94

She is in the top 15% of liberals in congress. seabeyond Nov 2015 #99

She is far to the right of Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #101

No. Clinton is not far to the right. She is also in the 15% of most liberal in congress. seabeyond Nov 2015 #103

Repeating your claim doesn't make her less far to the right of Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #105

Research shows she is top 15% liberal Dem in congress seabeyond Nov 2015 #109

It's not a magic spell, saying it 3 times doesn't negate the fact she's far to the right of Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #115

Nor does saying she is far to the right, make it so. I have facts on my side. seabeyond Nov 2015 #121

She's far to the right of Bernie. It's okay to admit it. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #130

No, she is not. Have a good Turkey Day. seabeyond Nov 2015 #140

She is on matters of economics and WAR AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #199

I think you're supposed to say it 3 times in a mirror AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #182

Or click you heels together! There's no one like Hill, there's no one like Hill... beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #184

You do realize that Hillary is NOT in congress. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #297

LOL! Why didn't I say that in my response. cui bono Nov 2015 #398

If you slap yourself you might get rid of that skipping. Works on my record player. cui bono Nov 2015 #397

Which is a indication of the problem with Congress. -none Nov 2015 #137

I am a supporter of our Democratic party and our President. I simply do not have the same angst seabeyond Nov 2015 #149

So you are a 'purist'? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #206

I don't think you are using that term correctly. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #214

Lol. What a hoot. Look up the definition. Happy Turkey Day. seabeyond Nov 2015 #216

OK, lets do that... AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #219

Because there are only about 5 actual liberals in the whole of congress. cui bono Nov 2015 #396

Republicans are conservative treestar Nov 2015 #128

Compared to Bernie so is Hillary. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #132

nu uh seabeyond Nov 2015 #148

More facts from you? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #152

Google. I see no facts from you when you call Clinton a Republican. Is this a one way street? seabeyond Nov 2015 #158

When did I call her a Republican? She's Republican lite compared to Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #163

Calling Clinton a Republican lite is indeed calling Clinton a Republican. seabeyond Nov 2015 #167

Only in your mind, to the rest of us words have meanings. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #171

Anyone who can "agree to differ" okasha Nov 2015 #272

Really? How about "Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions" beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #273

Beccause it's such a terrible thing okasha Nov 2015 #280

So when Hillary agrees to differ on women's rights it's okay? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #281

Except that Hillary did not say that, okasha Nov 2015 #282

"There is an opportunity for people of good faith to find common ground in this debate" beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #283

Uhm, no. okasha Nov 2015 #289

Um, yes - agreeing to differ about abortion remaining legal. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #290

Who is doing that? Links? cui bono Nov 2015 #394

Obama '08 had lots of touting of 'Obamacans' by the campaing and all over DU. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #26

Not in the primary MaggieD Nov 2015 #28

The Obama quote is from the Primary. So try again. He's countering Clinton campaign rhetoric in Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #31

I saw him give a speech right here in Columbus Ohio during the primaries phleshdef Nov 2015 #161

Sounds to me like he thinks he's tapping into some rightwing agita, there. MADem Nov 2015 #30

Candidate Obama: Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #33

"I got 25% of my support from republicans in Vermont" MaggieD Nov 2015 #46

How do the issues themselves compare between Bernie, Hillary and your views? -none Nov 2015 #173

Your OP asked a question which I answered with quotes and links, the answer was Obama. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #174

Wait, what? You don't want candidates on our side Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #285

Awww, if I had a mind, I'd think you were following me around....! MADem Nov 2015 #47

LOL treestar Nov 2015 #134

Some truths are just self - evident! MADem Nov 2015 #178

I want some Obama Republicans. I want �Obamacans.� "- Barack Obama beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #83

What is most useful about this sort of encounter is the rude, nasty response of this OP's cohort Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #187

She doesn't want answers and isn't interested in dialogue. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #189

nu uh, nu uh, nu uh bahrbearian Nov 2015 #198

You can't win without some on the other side. The facts are Bernie is a liberal, Hillary a centurist ViseGrip Nov 2015 #39

Even if your assertion's true... do you have a point? nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #41

Yes MaggieD Nov 2015 #49

Maybe those are the non-fascist Republicans? PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #55

So your claim is that Bernie's a right-wing nut? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #73

Since Sanders disgust you so much, dpatbrown Nov 2015 #260

You'll get no answers to these types of statements... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #311

Yes,pathetic dpatbrown Nov 2015 #378

That one is one of the infamous Clinton Cave members cui bono Nov 2015 #399

Thank you very much. dpatbrown Nov 2015 #405

It's pretty clear she hit a bullseye. Here you are! nt MADem Nov 2015 #50

From the polls I've seen Jarqui Nov 2015 #44

how is this different from Hillary boasting of courting "moderate republicans" who agree with her Doctor_J Nov 2015 #54

Hillary = Republican Lite bahrbearian Nov 2015 #56

But Bernie says rethugs support him MaggieD Nov 2015 #59

I don't like Bernie Pandering to Republicans. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #68

Hillary has NEVER pandered to rethugs MaggieD Nov 2015 #70

Her Policy is driven buy repugs bahrbearian Nov 2015 #77

He wants to break up banks because they want to be broken up MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #81

Yes Annie Oakley did. She ran a racist campaign in 2008. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #84

Yes he panders to all Americans , Hillary = Wall Street , MIC , and War Hawks. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #186

Clinton in the top 15% liberal in congress. seabeyond Nov 2015 #63

And Congress's approval is lower than Clinton's so that's not saying much. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #72

Ok. That has nothing to do with accusations Clinton is repug lite when in fact, she is progressive. seabeyond Nov 2015 #82

Only in your mind bahrbearian Nov 2015 #89

No. Facts. Calling Clinton a repug lite would be in ones mind, without the facts. Research is good seabeyond Nov 2015 #102

Compared to Bernie she is Republican lite. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #119

No, she is not. There is barely a difference. seabeyond Nov 2015 #122

Only to Hillary supporters, to liberal progressives there's a big difference. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #133

Not true. seabeyond Nov 2015 #153

Of course it's true, why do you think 85% of DU prefers Bernie? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #156

Why do you think Clinton has the nomination for the democratic party well in hand? Now, I am out of seabeyond Nov 2015 #160

She doesn't, and if she wins that still won't make her a liberal progressive. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #168

Whatever we call Obama's coalition, it worked in last 2 elections BootinUp Nov 2015 #57

Every person I know who went for Obama is now going for Bernie. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #125

I could go and grab a recent poll to prove my point, but I doubt BootinUp Nov 2015 #129

Nah, I look at the polls. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2015 #131

Well you are wrong about me, sheshe2 Nov 2015 #304

You should stop by and say hi sometime since we know each other so well. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #310

Better to have Republican support than to support Republicans Autumn Nov 2015 #60

Not if one has to throw a large part of the Democratic base under the bus to get Republican vote. seabeyond Nov 2015 #66

Who is doing that, and how? Explain. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #86

Demanding, lol. And, no. seabeyond Nov 2015 #97

So you made it up. How predictable. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #100

No. Sanders has repeatedly addressed Republicans telling them to put the wedge issues aside seabeyond Nov 2015 #106

No shit, so that they'll vote for Democrats. Obama did it too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #112

No shit, lol. Yet, you argued thru out the subthread. seabeyond Nov 2015 #117

Because of your sleazy allegation that asking Republicans to vote Dem beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #127

"Sleazy, condemn, hypocrite"? More personal attacks. I am using Sanders words, and I believe he seabeyond Nov 2015 #135

She's far to the right of Bernie, always has been. Denial doesn't change the facts. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #141

No. She is a tad to the right on some things. Sanders is to the right on other things. seabeyond Nov 2015 #146

Hillary called herself a moderate, that's not a progressive that's a weather vane. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #150

Thats what LBJ called himself too. BootinUp Nov 2015 #157

I won't support a war hawk who only goes left when the polls indicate it will be beneficial. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #162

The point is that labels are often used for poilitical purposes BootinUp Nov 2015 #164

she must mean Hillary Doctor_J Nov 2015 #98

Well Hillary does represent the right wing of the party. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #104

What has Bernie done to throw a large part of the Democratic base Autumn Nov 2015 #151

Setting social justice issues to the side, defining them as wedge issues to get a Republican vote. seabeyond Nov 2015 #154

You keep pushing he has set social justice issues to the side. Autumn Nov 2015 #159

Sanders himself has said those words, more than once, when trying to get Republican votes. Please, seabeyond Nov 2015 #165

I'll wait for the link to Sanders himself saying he is setting aside Autumn Nov 2015 #177

He never set them aside, he asked Republicans to set them aside and vote Democratic. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #179

Perfectly said. cui bono Nov 2015 #400

Sanders would do or say anything to get votes, from anyone. He would welcome Trumps support. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #64

Indeed MaggieD Nov 2015 #69

LOL. Project much? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #78

really? who'$ evolved or triangulating on gay marriage, TPP, for profit prisons, Doctor_J Nov 2015 #111

The subject was Trump support. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #237

The subject was your subject line that Sanders will say anything to get elected Doctor_J Nov 2015 #262

I think you meant Clinton who 840high Nov 2015 #245

Nope, it is Sanders. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #255

Trump has ACTUALLY supported Clinton in the past. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #320

She happens to be a good candidate and Trump recognizes her abilities. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #403

Links to this behavior? You must have proof of him changing positions just to please people. cui bono Nov 2015 #401

timing enid602 Nov 2015 #65

One candidate is cozy with Republicans and it's not Bernie: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #75

Bingo! wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #107

Hillary Clinton. She's always talking about reaching across the aisle. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #76

Looks like Bernie is, too. treestar Nov 2015 #139

There will be a difference, in my opinion. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #197

There are a number of Republicans who are sick of GOP extremism. emulatorloo Nov 2015 #79

Yes. And, frankly, I see nothing wrong with trying to "convert" The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #87

Just quit it already Politicalboi Nov 2015 #91

When Clinton was 16 and too young to vote? Sanders has not been a Dem until the last week or so. seabeyond Nov 2015 #113

She was president of college republicans at wellsey SwampG8r Nov 2015 #317

I can't believe she's been out of the penalty box for this long Doctor_J Nov 2015 #120

Creating more Democrats Depaysement Nov 2015 #108

Sanders will have no crossover appeal in Congress. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #142

just saying that his policies are so good that EVERYONE likes them. 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #143

Exactly. SoapBox Nov 2015 #169

OH GOOD GOD! :-/ NurseJackie Nov 2015 #175

Does the hatred you carry ever make you tired, MaggieD? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #181

Nice personal attack. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #202

Not at all. It's advice. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #204

Of course, Justify it however you need to. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #207

I'm sorry your alert didn't work. Here, maybe this will make you feel better: Scootaloo Nov 2015 #217

No worries, thats why I went ahead and let you know directly. BootinUp Nov 2015 #218

Plan to, thanks. Have some more puppy, as a parting gift Scootaloo Nov 2015 #225

Happy to point it out. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #227

Is that a Japanese Spitz or a Samoyed? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #314

Samoyed, looks like Scootaloo Nov 2015 #315

Japanese Spitz look almost the same as Samoyed's - just smaller Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #318

Samoyed are a little more robust in proportion Scootaloo Nov 2015 #319

try Clinton 2008 - many articles where she bragged karynnj Nov 2015 #185

There's NO WAY that I could trust him now. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #188

Lol! But you TRUST Hillary Clinton the WEATHER VANE. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #190

Looks like Bernie is the weathervane now. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #200

How? By doing what Obama did and asking Republicans to vote Democratic? The POUTRAGE! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #203

It's clear to me why he's so far BEHIND and why hardly anyone endorses him. THEY CAN'T TRUST HIM!!! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #223

Trump is leading in the polls too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #228

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Nov 2015 #233

You think that bigot is HONEST after he lied about Mexicans and Muslims? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #235

Bernie is worse in my opinion. (Good thing I won't have to vote for either one, eh?) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #239

If you trust that bigot and think he's honest it's no wonder you don't trust someone like Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #241

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Nov 2015 #249

Sounds like something a Trump supporter would say. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #250

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2015 #259

You trust a man who wants Muslims to wear identity badges, like Jews in Nazi Germany. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #268

So you support Trump? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #341

The more they talk, the more they expose themselves AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #340

Makes you wonder if they're not telling us the real reason why they don't trust Bernie. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #342

So you would vote for Trump? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #339

Are you serious? Trump is honest? polly7 Nov 2015 #344

You just described Hillary Clinton to a T! cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #296

LOL NurseJackie Nov 2015 #299

Because of an OP on DU that's a complete fabrication written by a Clinton Caver? cui bono Nov 2015 #402

The politics of devision is a favorite tool of the PTB tk2kewl Nov 2015 #195

Makes you wonder why the op always seeks to divide. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #213

Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #305

They sure as fuck are coming from your side. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #316

Independent Turned Democrat gordyfl Nov 2015 #208

I did the very same thing zalinda Nov 2015 #221

Republicans are in an real fix this year. Vinca Nov 2015 #231

So what is he now? A Republicrat? A Demoblican? The majority of Dems don't support him, so NurseJackie Nov 2015 #232

I guess you said the same thing about Obama then: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #236

He's not running for office. Its too late to care or matter. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #240

You already admitted you trust Trump and think he's honest, what more is there to say? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #243

He's just as bad in my opinion. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #246

Sure, because a man with a stellar civil rights record is no different than a racist. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #248

I'm not a lesbian. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #251

That's nice, but you do trust Trump and think he's honest. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #252

He's a better choice than Bernie. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #254

You'll vote for Trump then, since you're such a fan? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #256

I won't have to. Hillary will win the nomination AND the election. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #257

But what will you do when Bernie gets the nomination? Lordquinton Nov 2015 #300

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #258

Trump wants Muslims to wear identity badges and you still trust him. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #269

Trump is honest TSIAS Nov 2015 #270

Sorry, I don"t trust Hillary gordyfl Nov 2015 #276

Aw, too bad alerter, you're on a timeout, JURY RESULTS: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #264

He's a fucking WINNER. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #274

Actually ... He's losing! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #277

The game hasn't even started yet, haven't you been paying attention? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #284

Of course it has. What a silly thing to say. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #286

It has? How many primaries has She won? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #287

Hold on to whatever gives you comfort. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #293

Plan on it. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #294

Fantasies usually are. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #295

better than bragging about Republican policies MisterP Nov 2015 #242

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask liberalnarb Nov 2015 #247

If he can pull those that we constantly accuse of voting against their best interests into the fold NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #261

I can't go with you on this one... GitRDun Nov 2015 #263

I thought you were upset that he couldn't get Republican support? Live and Learn Nov 2015 #265

In 2008--the most recent contested Democratic primary, Obama's camp bragged about "Obamacans." merrily Nov 2015 #266

If he means they will cross over in the primary to nominate him, this is not good. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #275

You got no policy positions listed!!! What policies do you have an issue with? He appeals to grahamhgreen Nov 2015 #278

It's not so hard getting a Republican to listen to Bernie's message. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #279

Robert Reich Thanksgiving Message... gordyfl Nov 2015 #288

Personally, I would much rather see Republicans vote for Bernie Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #291

I don't undestand, up here we're happy to have conservatives switch over to polly7 Nov 2015 #292

Bernie appeals across the political spectrum Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #298

well yes, even in rural Vermont he frequently carries predominently Republican districts by wide Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #301

+ 10000!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #303

It's not Bragging it's true, disallusion Republicans will vote for him, their Contempt for Hillary orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #302

They like him mainly because he's honest, authentic and courageous. senz Nov 2015 #307

This reminds me of when Bernie agreed to speak at Liberty University. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #323

Yep, I remember that well. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #324

I just love the spanking this stupid OP got. Pure gold. nt artislife Nov 2015 #327

Me too! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #330

Dang! artislife Nov 2015 #331

Thanks! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #332

I would have lost it too! artislife Nov 2015 #333

Mmmmmmmmmmmm...gelato. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #334

They were new converts! See you, my friend. nt. artislife Nov 2015 #335

He should be bragging coyote Nov 2015 #329

I cant wait to see your reaction when Bernie is going to win the nomination darkangel218 Nov 2015 #337

It shows his cross-over appeal - and thus electability in the GE. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #338

Republicans want to create chaos in the Democratic party Renew Deal Nov 2015 #343

Democrats used to want to attract the people in other parties. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #350

Mentioning/reaching out are now synonyms for bragging/touting? News to me. Thanks! Hiraeth Nov 2015 #358

Bernie Gets Support from a Wide Range of Voters. gordyfl Nov 2015 #362

The National Review has been urging GOP to support Sanders because he would be weaker candidate Gothmog Nov 2015 #363

imagine that nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #366

Hmm... Ann Coulter is not interested in the GOP winning? She seems to take issue with this... cascadiance Nov 2015 #372

Poor Ann Coulter is just trying to get attention Gothmog Nov 2015 #404

And those GOP sources you are quoting aren't also looking to get attention? cascadiance Nov 2015 #407

Obama Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #377

I remember hearing or reading about Obama saying... Stellar Nov 2015 #384

Reminds me of when they called Obama a Kenyan Muslim Communist Hitler... Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #411

Not only that, he insists his supporters aren't "registered Democrats" BainsBane Nov 2015 #413