2016 Postmortem

polly7

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128. Millions have died, been maimed and mutilated, made homeless,

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:28 PM

Dec 2015

hung in the streets, burned alive, beheaded, disemboweled, children been made orphans - drowning at sea trying to escape with their desperate families, women and children kidnapped and raped, mass graves, women's rights they enjoyed in the former sectarian nations of Iraq and Libya, and now Syria - set back decades with their new radical overlords, Libya - a nation - among the 7 stated for regime change, destroyed, opening up all of Africa to more of the same as IS and Boko Harem continue their horror on a larger scale every day - ALL BECAUSE of the disastrous invasion of Iraq and Libya, and Syria - using those proxy terrorists, of course. Just some of the many atrocities and horrors resulting from a western policy you seem to have no problem with, and facts relating to and those that discuss them that bore you. Awwwwwies.

That takes something sick that I don't even have the capacity to understand.

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Absolutely damning!- Hillary Clinton and the ISIS Mess [View all] pinebox Dec 2015 OP

Damning, I tell you!!! seabeyond Dec 2015 #1

Indeed! :) pinebox Dec 2015 #4

Because ISIS and the lying invasion of Iraq that allowed it are no biggies, right? nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #10

Hi Polly7. seabeyond Dec 2015 #13

No biggie, right? Nothing to see here ......... just millions dead, maimed, homeless, polly7 Dec 2015 #16

Exactly, we cannot have change or peace if "we came, we saw, he died" is elected president peacebird Dec 2015 #19

I would change that to "the lying invasion that CREATED it" peacebird Dec 2015 #18

Dang ......... that is a MUCH better term. Thank you. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #23

There is nothing Damming Hillary: She will do a great job with leading this country lewebley3 Dec 2015 #80

Damn you Hillary supporters!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #182

I hate the heat, hence wanting to move to the Northwest. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #185

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz leftofcool Dec 2015 #2

Oh, dear. Your natural state has reasserted itself. sibelian Dec 2015 #3

What does that mean? leftofcool Dec 2015 #6

You tell me. sibelian Dec 2015 #8

tsk tsk. The thinly veiled insult but the lack of courage to admit it. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #63

I'm pretty sure this has to do with my age and needing a bit more rest. leftofcool Dec 2015 #138

I really liked to do origami reallygosh Dec 2015 #146

Oh.... reallygosh Dec 2015 #147

Welcome back. leftofcool Dec 2015 #154

LOL! peacebird Dec 2015 #21

This just isn't factual. Agschmid Dec 2015 #5

Indeed. Bernie has stated openly and clearly as much. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #64

Stated positions and actual positions are two very different animals. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #163

So what IS the solution to ISIS? randome Dec 2015 #7

The solution is NOT to keep doing the same things that led to the rise of ISIS in the first place tularetom Dec 2015 #11

Well, we're not invading countries on false pretexts now. randome Dec 2015 #15

Since when? Did a Presidential Decree ban invading countries on false pretexts get issued? Proserpina Dec 2015 #73

No false pretexts there. You may want to object to our not declaring war on those countries. randome Dec 2015 #148

That isn't a solution, tom. It's simply a rejection of an alternative. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #67

HRC was no "mastermind" but she along with Petraeus were the principal regime change advocates leveymg Dec 2015 #9

+1000. polly7 Dec 2015 #12

Libya was in a civil war. Now Syria is, too. You really think Obama 'masterminded' all that? randome Dec 2015 #17

You really need to do a little research. polly7 Dec 2015 #22

Oh, so Obama was trying to prevent 'African development'. I see. randome Dec 2015 #24

I don't care how you see things. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #25

Wow. You have definitely done the research, polly7. senz Dec 2015 #39

She sure did. Must have taken quite a bit of investigating! Duval Dec 2015 #55

Thanks senz, but those were just mostly articles and FACTS dug up polly7 Dec 2015 #84

+1 jwirr Dec 2015 #126

+2. nt Euphoria Dec 2015 #177

A couple of your links don't work and I'm not reading anything by "paranormal press" ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #51

Good. Don't. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #85

Ok. Won't. nt. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #91

Awesome. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #92

K. randome Dec 2015 #145

. think Dec 2015 #155

Grr! randome Dec 2015 #181

If you don't like those sources, try the NYT and The Nation. leveymg Dec 2015 #159

Great post! nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #160

Whatis your point with those links? ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #164

Exactly as I said, HRC and Petraeus were the principal sponsors of regime change in Libya and Syria leveymg Dec 2015 #165

That is not what they say ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #166

Please tell us, what do you think they say, M(s.) notwasm? leveymg Dec 2015 #168

And you were exactly right, leveymg. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #167

Great research polly7 Nyan Dec 2015 #59

Thank you for this Nyan. polly7 Dec 2015 #86

Thank you for all you do here, Polly. leveymg Dec 2015 #161

Oh, TY, that means a lot to me! Thank you for all your research and great info. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #162

You use the Washington Times to help justify your abject disdain for President Obama... George II Dec 2015 #89

And "Paranormal press" ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #94

Interesting... George II Dec 2015 #96

Oh, my ....... that's TERRIBLY interesting. polly7 Dec 2015 #100

The "destruction of the nation" has been predicted over and over again almost.... George II Dec 2015 #129

I thought it interesting. Some people are into that kind of thing ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #103

Awww .......... hate the messenger, ignore the FACTS polly7 Dec 2015 #97

... ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #101

Who the fuck cares? I'm intelligent enough to judge what's right and what isn't using other polly7 Dec 2015 #105

To be honest ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #115

To be honest, I usually don't read your posts, they're usually full of nothing but blah. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #117

Ok ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #119

Now you're just boring me. Seriously. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #111

Just enough to keep you responding? ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #121

Millions have died, been maimed and mutilated, made homeless, polly7 Dec 2015 #128

You're the one who said they were bored. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #136

I was bored by your pathetic excuse for all this horror that one of the sources polly7 Dec 2015 #137

Sure you have ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #141

Still boring. polly7 Dec 2015 #142

Still responding ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #144

But I do care ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #104

Yeah ............. don't really believe that for a second, but it's probably wise to say it. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #107

Ok ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #118

I have disdain for the ACTIONS of anyone causing harm to this planet and its polly7 Dec 2015 #95

So I'm sure you have disdain for your candidate who has voted numerous times..... George II Dec 2015 #99

I don't have a candidate. polly7 Dec 2015 #102

Excellent material. Should be an OP. pa28 Dec 2015 #184

As you might have wished, Nyan Dec 2015 #53

I don't presume to be an expert on international matters. randome Dec 2015 #57

I don't think Obama himself is interested in the whole risky geo-political game Nyan Dec 2015 #131

I agree with all of that. Well said, Nyan. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #135

Putin is trying to resurrect the USSR so at a minimum, NATO serves its original purpose. randome Dec 2015 #139

I guess that is the image projected on Putin these days Nyan Dec 2015 #157

"Both countries ruled by dictators." ljm2002 Dec 2015 #188

Well said. I agree totally. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #151

...! n/t KoKo Dec 2015 #189

I'm surprised this line of argument against the HRC candidacy isn't immediately, universally obvious leveymg Dec 2015 #191

Denial is Deep...Power and Influence is the Hope or the Want... KoKo Dec 2015 #193

The outliers who admit there is a problem are the only hope for change leveymg Dec 2015 #194

IT'S OVER DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #14

For hillary, yes madame. The Blue Traveller Dec 2015 #36

I am a sir, a Big Sir at that, not there is anything wrong with being a madame. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #38

I don't want your life. Just a huge apology to the true Democrats The Blue Traveller Dec 2015 #40

How about a smaller wager? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #43

How about another wager JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #49

Sure, no problem. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #50

I only know of one Big Sur and it is in California ... Hiraeth Dec 2015 #48

"true Democrats" Orrex Dec 2015 #61

-1 Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #69

True Democrats? one_voice Dec 2015 #98

LOL - your hyperbolic, breathless thread titles MaggieD Dec 2015 #20

He has a certain charm. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #70

'We came, we saw, he died' would undoubtably escalate our military adventures, not end them. peacebird Dec 2015 #26

That was truly cringeworthy. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #72

How about this one with Hillary and Repub James Baker Laughing Up Bombing Iran? KoKo Dec 2015 #190

OP needs some bold and maybe some ALL CAPS. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #27

Care to address the article Joe? pinebox Dec 2015 #29

Sure, its hyperbolic nonsense. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #35

It is? pinebox Dec 2015 #37

No, there are no facts. There is opinion and innuendo. randome Dec 2015 #46

Well then what is this? pinebox Dec 2015 #47

Even that is not a fact, although I agree with it. What that has to do with Clinton, I don't know. randome Dec 2015 #54

I'd disagree pinebox Dec 2015 #58

Well, it's no word cloud, that's for sure. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #52

Because word clouds are wrong pinebox Dec 2015 #60

Ten DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #44

Tired of your cynical interjections ... Trajan Dec 2015 #33

How do you plan to accomplish that? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #34

It just means you are being put on ignore. Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #66

DU needs a feature that would say something like this ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #88

What happens is... Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #110

I've never put anyone on ignore. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #120

It's their way of letting you... Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #132

Don't care really. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #134

Apparently, a member of the group that is definitely NOT alert stalking Bernie supporters alerted merrily Dec 2015 #28

LOL That is hilarious! pinebox Dec 2015 #30

Not necessarily, no, but anything criticizing Hillary apparently is "alert worthy," for one reason merrily Dec 2015 #31

Apparently :) pinebox Dec 2015 #32

I guess there is always about a 5% chance of your source JTFrog Dec 2015 #45

You have no idea who alerted that post or why. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #74

Hence the word "apparently" Reading comprehension is your friend (I promise). merrily Dec 2015 #78

Your strong implication is crystal clear, and your history leaves no doubt about your intent. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #82

Aren't you the guy who warned me (gratuitously, I might add) against posting angry this am? merrily Dec 2015 #83

Ask yourself this question: Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #90

My posts are not hate-filled, except maybe in the imaginations of some who see only their way or merrily Dec 2015 #130

Yeah, yeah. More of the "What? Did you not read my words?" Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #133

Yes, "notice what my post actually says" is hate filled, while your accusing me of hating merrily Dec 2015 #156

Your posts are great, merrily. They just need to have all this 'go away', as well polly7 Dec 2015 #140

Thanks, polly7. merrily Dec 2015 #153

As if the right wing would criticize ANYONE for being a hawk. Maedhros Dec 2015 #106

Because they they have to give some reason for the alert and they think "left" merrily Dec 2015 #114

The magnitude and volume of innuendo, half-truths and outright lies from the Hillary camp Maedhros Dec 2015 #125

Are you on team DNC/Hillary or are you a right winger? You must choose one of those two. merrily Dec 2015 #127

Ironically, the jury is in Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #109

Just out of curiosity, Juror 5, what would you suggest for handling alert stalking? merrily Dec 2015 #116

I think people just need to calm the hell down. Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #152

Well, sure she's a war monger and tool of the 1%, but she's OK on some social issues ... Scuba Dec 2015 #41

And, in the absence of substance, just make shit up! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #75

The brilliance of think the Saudi was going to handle the problem did not Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #42

But, but, but...it's her turn! SoapBox Dec 2015 #56

I'll give you credit, pinbox: you are tireless. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #62

It comes down to this: If She's for it, I'm Against It for 2 reasons (and I'm not the only one) Proserpina Dec 2015 #65

About this: "2)Bernie's got a better plan and the popular support for it" Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #77

2)Bernie's got a better plan and the popular support for it Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #81

K&R - nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #68

ok. n/t zappaman Dec 2015 #71

More of the same floriduck Dec 2015 #76

More and more is becomes evident to be a Bernie fan.... Tommy2Tone Dec 2015 #79

Hillary's part of the "Big Club" that George Carlin told us about. jalan48 Dec 2015 #87

Is there any bad thing in the world... yallerdawg Dec 2015 #93

Pretty much Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #112

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ JoePhilly Dec 2015 #123

This ^^^^^^^ treestar Dec 2015 #149

Well yallerdawg let's take a look at things shall we? pinebox Dec 2015 #150

I don't know. yallerdawg Dec 2015 #172

Let's see how that list stacks up against the other choice? Sancho Dec 2015 #186

I can tell the Hillary supporters do not have kids that she can send to war 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #108

You sound like the RW folks who think ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #122

that the best you got? 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #170

You think no one who supports Hillary has kids ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #173

I have two that were deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq respectively. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #124

wow hard to believe you would support a warmonger then. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #171

The guy telling others what they "must think" is upset because some one said ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #174

upset? They would have to do much more than that to upset me. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #175

That's how I see some of you ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #178

see? see? so much to laugh at here. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #179

Only one of us will be laughing in a few months. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #180

if Hillary wins No one will be laughing. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #183

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #113

K&R. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #143

K N R Faux pas Dec 2015 #158

that's why I always roll my eyes when everyone starts chirping that "we need to arm the Kurds" MisterP Dec 2015 #169

pinebox hit & run. There's an obvious pattern. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #176

He won't be doing another one for a couple of months. JTFrog Dec 2015 #192

About time, glad to hear. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #195

I know this will be unpopular but the US should never have funded Syrian rebels who turned out to be Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #187