2016 Postmortem

Matariki

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18. If she wins the primaries, it would be foolish not to support her

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Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:10 PM

Dec 2015

hopefully it's just hot air and frustration speaking in most people.

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Bernie supporters could blow this election: Why refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton will only make [View all] applegrove Dec 2015 OP

Saw this one posted in the hillary supporters site HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #1

I found it on Reddit. Don't go to any Hillary sites. applegrove Dec 2015 #9

Well in that case it's just another tally in the long list of anti Bernie supporter threads. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #14

Agree. 840high Dec 2015 #15

Hillary supporters often say they'll vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. It is the Bernie applegrove Dec 2015 #22

No it's not anti-Bernie HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #24

The issue is one Bernie supporters have brought up. And spread. Voluntarily. Now it is applegrove Dec 2015 #27

Last post on this subject because I have other things to do HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #29

Right. Caveat, they believe he'll never be the nominee, so it isn't much of a challenge for them. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #79

Be real. Bernie supporters "often" say they'll vote for Hillary. Some in both groups have said merrily Dec 2015 #107

Many are hoping for this bravenak Dec 2015 #2

Finally, someone at Salon with at least a half of a brain. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #3

Must be nice.... daleanime Dec 2015 #4

*chortle nt artislife Dec 2015 #40

Yep. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #84

Lining up excuses for a Hillary loss, looks like to me. djean111 Dec 2015 #5

I reject the premise of the article vt_native Dec 2015 #6

There were also the 200,000 "pragmatic" FL Democrats who voted for Bush... Scootaloo Dec 2015 #13

Excellent. Pragmatism isn't a worthy end goal! artislife Dec 2015 #41

I think when Bernie endorses her and campaigns for her it will go a long way towards preventing DanTex Dec 2015 #7

+1 Perfect. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #10

Right. Bernie isn't Nader, and most of his supporters Hortensis Dec 2015 #75

Voting for Hillary in the primary will make everything worse. Broward Dec 2015 #8

I fear you are correct. nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #28

I agree. My take on the OP is we need to ensure Bernie wins the primary nomination! peacebird Dec 2015 #76

Still waiting for a Clinton pledge to not run as an independent, should she lose Scootaloo Dec 2015 #11

unlike bernie, hillary has never been an independent nt msongs Dec 2015 #21

Also unlike Bernie, Clinton has never pledged to not split the ticket. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #26

For Joe party loyalty (pffft) was a ruse to be inside the tent where he could do the most damage. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #85

If she would run as a Republican INdemo Dec 2015 #93

I suspect most will come to their senses by election day. DCBob Dec 2015 #12

Hopefully they'll come to their senses by primary election day and go with Bernie. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #64

"I recall spending the night before the election drinking in a P.F. Chang�s . . " Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #16

Only if they are nursing a pit bull. Kalidurga Dec 2015 #65

If Hillary is nominated and loses, that's on her and DWS. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #17

We can certainly try to blame Karma13612 Dec 2015 #31

Obama won in spite of the PUMAs. If Hillary gets the nod & can't win the general, that's on her. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #46

If she wins the primaries, it would be foolish not to support her Matariki Dec 2015 #18

The time to have this discussion is after the primary. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #19

After at least one Paulie Dec 2015 #20

After we have a nominee. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #23

Some people have been trying to fast forward past the primaries for a year, now. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #70

They want a coronation, not a primary. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #116

I am one of thsoe who think Clinton is gong to win. I think the vote in the General Election Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #135

Bernie gets my primary vote, but I will vote in the General for whomever wins the Dem primary. woodsprite Dec 2015 #25

Thank you for giving the response they were going for artislife Dec 2015 #39

But, Hillary has such a huge support base, why would it even matter if we, Bernie supporters, litlbilly Dec 2015 #30

The left of the party is never wanted until the right wing of the party needs a scapegoat Scootaloo Dec 2015 #42

Bingo!!! tazkcmo Dec 2015 #112

If Clinton and DWS and the cornation committe don't care about the Millennials, Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #117

Is this the 5276th post on this topic, or the 5277th? kath Dec 2015 #32

just on du, or at the Sanders hate site? Doctor_J Dec 2015 #36

Applegrove ... Trajan Dec 2015 #33

So I cannot talk about issues involved in this nomination race without it becoming personal? This is applegrove Dec 2015 #35

The establishment has spoken. NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #34

The whole point of the article is that Republicans win if we, at a basic level, don't stick together applegrove Dec 2015 #37

Sticking together works both ways pengu Dec 2015 #105

This assumes she wins the nomination. nt artislife Dec 2015 #38

One more thing on this doomed thread. If Hillary wins the nomination and somehow the presidency, litlbilly Dec 2015 #43

That pretty much sums it up for me. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #124

I will vote for the person I choose to vote for in the Democratic Primary Aerows Dec 2015 #44

The point of the article is to vote for the person in the general election who is a democrat. It is applegrove Dec 2015 #48

No offense, but once again Aerows Dec 2015 #49

I don't want the GOP to wedge us apart from each other come election time. applegrove Dec 2015 #54

Then stop supporting lousy candidates ibegurpard Dec 2015 #56

LOL Fawke Em Dec 2015 #66

She can't really support any American candidate, beyond words on a message board... demmiblue Dec 2015 #110

Dems like Clinton that have wedged us apart already pengu Dec 2015 #88

Ummm... us? I find this rather bizarre. demmiblue Dec 2015 #109

The point is tazkcmo Dec 2015 #113

Another attempt at hostage taking...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Indepatriot Dec 2015 #45

It was Al Gore's fault why he lost the 2000 election. gordyfl Dec 2015 #47

It's all those Bernie supporters' fault that Hillary polls worse in the general election? jfern Dec 2015 #50

The DNC could blow this entire election by trying to force HRC down our throats. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #51

Bingo. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #53

Well said n/t MissDeeds Dec 2015 #99

Spot on. Funny how only one side has responsability, the other indemnity. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #118

A new poll found that Bernie Sanders beats every top Republican gordyfl Dec 2015 #52

k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #55

Nominating The Wrong Candidate... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #57

I'm going to vote for our nominee in the... one_voice Dec 2015 #58

once again the old meme appears, just like clockwork.... mike_c Dec 2015 #59

Only in the minds of Republicans is Democrats voting for their nominee in the General Election applegrove Dec 2015 #60

No, DINOs share that frame of mind. n/t Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #119

OMG, please STOP shoving her down our throats. We will vote for her if she earns our votes. reformist2 Dec 2015 #61

Let me start with this reason Aerows Dec 2015 #62

That's an excellent reason to be for Bernie. But what happens applegrove Dec 2015 #68

I guess the DNC should stop foisting Republican-Lite candidates on us, then. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #63

And when are they going to accept that the 90-ies are over? Like, never coming back? Ever? eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #121

Worried? Kalidurga Dec 2015 #67

If Hillary is the candidate and loses it will be her fault Armstead Dec 2015 #69

dead car batteries, chipped tooth enamel, floorboards with dry rot, melted halloween candy, Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #71

So stupid. joshcryer Dec 2015 #72

1% is a huge amount in a Presidential race. applegrove Dec 2015 #73

0.36% went Green in 2012. joshcryer Dec 2015 #74

Dr Jill Stein may not be "new" & "charismatic" but she represents my views to a T RiverLover Dec 2015 #86

But she won't be a relevant challenger to the Democrats. joshcryer Dec 2015 #90

True that. RiverLover Dec 2015 #91

I was speaking solely of vote percentage. joshcryer Dec 2015 #92

Third way mentality, lesser of two evils, are all ploys to cajole people, Donald & Hillary are orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #77

The Lesser of Two Evils gordyfl Dec 2015 #95

I'm no Ralph fan , But Great example !!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #147

teamwork reddread Dec 2015 #151

many of us DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #78

Nominate Bernie then. Problem solved. CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #80

I've not yet seen any Hillary supporter say they would not vote for Bernie if he won. I have seen applegrove Dec 2015 #141

This is why it is critical she not win the primary pengu Dec 2015 #81

And the lesson from 2010 / 2014: Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #122

And what was Obama if not "establishment"? Arkana Dec 2015 #144

My not voting for hillary has nothing to do with my support for bernie bowens43 Dec 2015 #82

+1 RiverLover Dec 2015 #87

Guess you need a better candidate then. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #83

Ever More Loathsome Fear Mongering And Obfuscation cantbeserious Dec 2015 #89

It's more arrogance and entitlement pengu Dec 2015 #101

Roger That cantbeserious Dec 2015 #111

It's Accepted Fact gordyfl Dec 2015 #94

The "Bernie or Bust" types flatter themselves ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #96

Talk about petty. That looks more like a selfie Armstead Dec 2015 #123

Congrats -- you are one of the main posters on the DU who has turned me against HRC Hepburn Dec 2015 #127

Contrats and a tip-of-the-hat to yourself as well! It certainly takes a special kind of person ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #132

The PUMAs in 2008 tried to make themselves look bigger too. Arkana Dec 2015 #145

That's before my time ... someone had to explain PUMA to me. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #146

Money in Politics - Things Haven't Changed Much gordyfl Dec 2015 #97

It won't matter in my state bigwillq Dec 2015 #98

Jersey a Dem State, also. gordyfl Dec 2015 #100

Who could also blow this election: RW Dems who cross party lines to vote Republican. merrily Dec 2015 #102

Because we run them as candidates? pengu Dec 2015 #103

This is not a reply to the OP, but I still think it's both a thread win and a DUzy. merrily Dec 2015 #106

Let me add some meat my snarky bones then pengu Dec 2015 #128

I love your "snarky bones!" Bookmarking. Small wonder they have no use for a candidate trying to merrily Dec 2015 #133

Wow! That was an interesting post. gordyfl Dec 2015 #136

Lieberman is a special kind of awful pengu Dec 2015 #138

Victory for Joe Lieberman gordyfl Dec 2015 #139

We got community health centers - thanks to Sanders pengu Dec 2015 #140

Straight fire. frylock Dec 2015 #148

I'm a dailykos 5 refugee pengu Dec 2015 #150

True that. And welcome! nt raouldukelives Dec 2015 #153

You're right, there are a lot of RW Dems in FL. gordyfl Dec 2015 #120

*yawn* I refuse to speculate until AFTER the primary. Thanks, anyway. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #104

+1 and screw McCarthyites in all their shape-shifting forms anyway. merrily Dec 2015 #108

In other words: vote for the lesser of two evils or else. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #114

I don't take any of those threats seriously. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #115

Hillary supporters could blow this election... Chan790 Dec 2015 #125

One more fucking time. 99Forever Dec 2015 #126

Take the Hillary Pledge gordyfl Dec 2015 #129

Hillary can't win a general election AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #130

But they won't.... brooklynite Dec 2015 #131

The "Not as Bad" ploy is long past it's due date. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #134

Democrats Should "Stick Together" Like... gordyfl Dec 2015 #137

There are a lot of people who believe the lie Ralph Nader foisted on us in 2000. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #142

If Democrats lose, it's their own damned fault. frylock Dec 2015 #149

damn straight blueman mmxvi Dec 2015 #143

Well, if it's common knowlege that she'll lose in the GE- why is she running? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #152