2016 Postmortem

PatrickforO

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101. So what. Let's try something new and speak truth to power.

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Polls which indicate Bernie can beat Republican canidates - don't believe them [View all] CajunBlazer Dec 2015 OP

And Hillary will just skate because the GOPers have nothing on her. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #1

+1 Jarqui Dec 2015 #2

They have already fired both barrels at Hillary and she is stills standing and ..... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #8

I can't tell you how much I dislike your chosen imagery. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #11

Surely we are big enough here to not get hung up on "words" CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #14

One very major flaw in your theory is that you imply they're done with Hillary. Jarqui Dec 2015 #30

No, the are by no means done with Hillary, but they are going to be using... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #66

They really haven't used it yet. Jarqui Dec 2015 #71

You have been reeding too many right wing blogs. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #75

I've been watching these guys for a long, long time (decades) Jarqui Dec 2015 #76

I believe it. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #81

They'll go at Bernie as hard as they can Jarqui Dec 2015 #86

You obviously don't get it CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #92

And when the American people get to check out this freak commie socialist Jarqui Dec 2015 #94

Bernie is not going to be able to convince most Americans that ..... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #97

"Hillary has been able to survive the Republican onslaught because she was already well known." ?? Jarqui Dec 2015 #98

OMG CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #100

"She has survived it"? Not a chance - certainly not yet. Jarqui Dec 2015 #104

"Bernie has more immediate problems" Jarqui Dec 2015 #99

Hope springs eternal in the human breast CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #102

That's the dopey stuff her campaign fell for the last time Jarqui Dec 2015 #105

Iowa and NH are both outliers CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #112

If they called the primary on Nov 3rd, 2007, 3 months before Super Tuesday, Jarqui Dec 2015 #115

There is one huge problem with your logic: Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #124

Here's another one: Jarqui Dec 2015 #128

This entire thread is about why Bernie won't stay electible if he get the nomination CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #129

I didn't say Elizabeth Warren was going to get into the race Jarqui Dec 2015 #130

Yea, right! Bernie is going to win in a landslide! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #131

Didn't say that either. Jarqui Dec 2015 #132

if you think Bernie has a "fair shot" to win, take a trip to Vegas.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #133

the vast (99%) majority of voters have many things in common Karma13612 Dec 2015 #141

Does throwing pies work better? brooklynite Dec 2015 #41

She has stood the test of the media for years FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #83

+ 1 Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #119

BWHAHAHA..... Segami Dec 2015 #144

They are premature, no doubt about it. I have said so many times even as Clinton supporters.... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3

Clinton has a net favorability of -11 (minus eleven). Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #126

Marx and Engels? LOL! immoderate Dec 2015 #4

All Democrats are "socialists" as far as the GOPers are concerned. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #10

Yep, but the socialist label will stick so much better to a guy.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #12

You are too impressed by labels. immoderate Dec 2015 #13

I'm not, but that irrelevent.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #19

So -- it's Republicans all the way down? immoderate Dec 2015 #24

The label is most effective because democrats themselves see it as a slight JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #32

If Democtats run from the term "socialist", just picture how the rest of the county will react. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #70

You give the American People too little credit JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #72

Really!!! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #78

That had nothing to do with political principles. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #79

The Republicans don't have political principals.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #82

And new democrats also share in that. But they couch their language, saying "I am pragmatic". n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #85

It's projection Scootaloo Dec 2015 #29

^^ exactly ^^ nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #65

If you believe that a numbe of your fellow Democarates are "terrified" of being... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #103

What the fuck is a "Democarates"? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #106

The cold-war "Socialist" label will be a millstone... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #5

Nonsense Kentonio Dec 2015 #37

Obama isn't a self-described Socialist. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #42

The GOP has already dropped lines of socialism, it will be constant. Also it should be Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #53

Who cares? Kentonio Dec 2015 #60

So you are saying it will be fine with you if they trash Sanders 24/7? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #68

They'll try and trash whoever the nominee is 24/7 Kentonio Dec 2015 #114

Got links to those polls? tabasco Dec 2015 #6

Patience! You will be apprised when you should believe a poll and when you should not. merrily Dec 2015 #46

Wait until they bring out the fact that Senator Sanders has a portrait of Eugene Debs BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #7

Recipients of the Eugene V. Debs Foundation Award include Coretta Scott King, Molly Ivans, Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #15

A town in northern Minnesota was named after Eugene V. Debs. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #16

Apparently not one Republican has seen that town yet, when they do all hell will break loose! Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #25

We are not talking about the award here, we are talking about the person CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #27

EEEK!! Sanders is a Socialist and too Liberal!! Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #9

They've been calling Obama a socialist since he was elected. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #17

Gosh. I guess the red baiting doesn't work as well as advertised. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #18

But President Obama has not advertized himself as a socialist his whole political life. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #21

Owning it means you don't have to fight it. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #23

It is that admission that will sink him CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #47

The GOP dirty tricksters would have a field day with Bernie. Alfresco Dec 2015 #20

I think Bernie can take it. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #22

They'll run ads about his trips to Russia, Cuba and Nicaragua. Alfresco Dec 2015 #28

They have already thrown all of that stuff at Hillary and.. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #31

. immoderate Dec 2015 #33

You're not sure he can handle it emotionally?! frylock Dec 2015 #39

Billo was mean to Bernie and he fell to pieces Mnpaul Dec 2015 #95

Bernie Quotes Alfresco Dec 2015 #135

Comedy gold. 24K comedy gold. merrily Dec 2015 #26

Laughing past the graveyard? CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #34

No, simply laughing at the laughable. merrily Dec 2015 #35

The truth can be funny at times. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #36

Sure and so can truthiness. merrily Dec 2015 #38

Perhaps you would lower yourself yo pointing exactly what I said that is wrong or funny CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #43

Nope. My remark was to convey your OP was comedy gold, which it did perfectly. merrily Dec 2015 #45

So it is true, you really have no real response. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #48

ok. nt merrily Dec 2015 #49

Not as funny as ill-informed opinion though. frylock Dec 2015 #40

You do not possess even a casual acquaintance with the truth n/t FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #137

The polls showing Bernie ahead are as worthy of consideration as those showing Hillary ahead. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #44

Sure , you're right, for the time being. ... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #51

Did Bernie sell arms to dodgy countries as SOS AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #57

Apparently nobody but you and the Republicans and you give a rip CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #59

It's the truth and well documented. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #62

You have been reading too many right wing blogs CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #74

Documented in excruciating detail ---> AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #77

Please post this as an OP! peacebird Dec 2015 #80

info has been posted a few times AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #88

There is only one little problem with this story. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #87

WRONG. Read the reporting to find out why. Or don't; I don't care. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #89

I read it! CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #90

It's spelled out in black and white ... AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #93

Another reason I don't care much for the Clintons Mnpaul Dec 2015 #96

We give Bernie for leading in some poles - wen we can find them CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #139

this from the guy ibegurpard Dec 2015 #50

So you couldn't find anything to critize in this post, right? CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #52

Yeah I can ibegurpard Dec 2015 #56

And yet she is still beating all of the Republican canidates CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #61

Uh they're busy right now ibegurpard Dec 2015 #64

I like her chances a lot better than Bernie's and.... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #69

Her husband is the reason ibegurpard Dec 2015 #107

Yes! Punkingal Dec 2015 #122

Should we believe only the polls you agree with? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #54

I am very familiar with polling - all polls are only accurate... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #63

Wow. Te Shillaries are getting desperate. concreteblue Dec 2015 #55

Please change the header of your post or self delete. leftofcool Dec 2015 #58

got mirror? ibegurpard Dec 2015 #67

Thank you. concreteblue Dec 2015 #134

Sanders is not a viable candidate Gothmog Dec 2015 #73

There is no evidence for your assertion. It is merely your opinion and wrong. Bernblu Dec 2015 #109

and Clinton is because why? Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #111

She can raise the money necessary to compete Gothmog Dec 2015 #116

Well at least that's a practical believable reason. Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #123

Money is important in national elections Gothmog Dec 2015 #127

At least when the right-wing nominated Barry Goldwater in 64- they learned that they could never win Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #84

Sanders has very low name recognition. I would guess his numbers track very closely tritsofme Dec 2015 #91

So what. Let's try something new and speak truth to power. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #101

If Sanders is unelectable, Hillary is doubly unelectable. Bernblu Dec 2015 #108

Independents aren't really paying attention to Bernie yet. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #113

Nobody has laid a glove on Sanders, how do you think he will do doc03 Dec 2015 #110

This is VERY true. K & R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #117

Think about this for a minute.... Punkingal Dec 2015 #118

O dear. Even the polls are starting to turn against Clinton. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #120

Evidently you haven't been keeping up with this thread. CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #125

I prefer to ... wait and watch. Thanks for your concern though. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #121

Another lame steaming pile from Camp Weathervane. 99Forever Dec 2015 #136

Such an intellegent post CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #140

You get what you deserve. 99Forever Dec 2015 #142

No, this is a case..... CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #143

Um...guys? In case you haven't noticed, the Republican 'machine' is breaking down. randome Dec 2015 #138