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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:46 PM Dec 2015

Mrs. Clinton's role in Honduras coup is reason to block her nomination [View all]

Hillary Clinton was wrong to secretly support an illegal coup against a democratically elected government in Honduras. This has had disastrous effect on the people of Honduras. It also added to a refugee and migration crisis that we see in the United States. It's time to bury the Nixon-Kissenger foreign policy attitudes forever. The US shouldn't be supporting any right wing coup in Latin America. Mrs. Clinton's role in this coup against a democratically elected government is reason to block her nomination.

Hillary Clinton sold out Honduras:
Lanny Davis, corporate cash, and the real story about the death of a Latin American democracy

In the 5 a.m. darkness of June 28, 2009, more than two hundred armed, masked soldiers stormed the house of Honduran president Manuel Zelaya. Within minutes Zelaya, still in his pajamas, was thrown into a van and taken to a military base used by the U.S., where he was flown out of the country.

It was a military coup, said the UN General Assembly and the Organization of American States (OAS). The entire EU recalled its countries’ ambassadors, as did Latin American nations. The United States did not, making it virtually the only nation of note to maintain diplomatic relations with the coup government. Though the White House and the Clinton State Department denounced only the second such coup in the Western Hemisphere since the Cold War, Washington hedged in a way that other governments did not. It began to feel like lip service being paid, not real concern.

Washington was dragging its feet, but even within the Obama administration a distinction was seen very early seen between the White House and Secretary Clinton’s State Department. Obama called Zelaya’s removal an illegal “coup” the next day, while Secretary Clinton’s response was described as “holding off on formally branding it a coup.” President Obama carefully avoided calling it a military coup, despite that being the international consensus, because the “military” modifier would have abruptly suspended US military aid to Honduras, an integral site for the US Southern Command, but Obama called for the reinstatementof the elected president of Honduras removed from his country by the military.

Clinton was far more circumspect, suspiciously so. In an evasive press corps appearance, Secretary Clinton responded with tortured answers on the situation in Honduras and said that State was “withholding any formal legal determination.” She did offer that the situation had “evolved into a coup,” as if an elected president removed in his pajamas at gunpoint and exiled to another country was not the subject of a coup at the moment armed soldiers enter his home.
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more: http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/

Clinton & the Coup: Amid Protests in Honduras, Ex-President on Hillary's Role in His 2009 Ouster
JULY 28
In Honduras, as many as 25,000 people marched Friday demanding the resignation of Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández. The protests come six years after a coup ousted Honduras’s democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya. In an exclusive interview, Zelaya talks about the new protest movement, the fallout from the 2009 coup, and Hillary Clinton’s role in his ouster. "On the one hand, [the Obama administration] condemned the coup, but on the other hand, they were negotiating with the leaders of the coup," Zelaya said. "And Secretary Clinton lent herself to that, maintaining that ambiguity of U.S. policy to Honduras, which has resulted in a process of distrust and instability of Latin American governments in relation to U.S. foreign policies." While the United States publicly supported Zelaya’s return to power, newly released emails show Clinton was attempting to set up a back channel of communication with Roberto Micheletti, who was installed as Honduran president after the coup. In one email, Clinton referenced lobbyist and former President Clinton adviser Lanny Davis. She wrote, "Can he help me talk w Micheletti?" At the time, Davis was working for the Honduran chapter of the Business Council of Latin America, which supported the coup. In another email, Thomas Shannon, the State Department’s lead negotiator for the Honduras talks, refers to Manuel Zelaya as a "failed" leader.
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http://www.democracynow.org/2015/7/28/clinton_the_coup_amid_protests_in


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Clinton emails include telling exchanges about coup that toppled leftist President Manuel Zeylaya Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #1
Neoliberal economics will lead to the death of mankind FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #2
We still treat Central America like we did 100 years ago... shameful. reformist2 Dec 2015 #11
Bill did exactly the same thing to Aristide in '96. leveymg Dec 2015 #27
More baseless smears MaggieD Dec 2015 #3
Wow you're just like denying reality and evidence that is right in front of you Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #4
The overall pro-Kissinger tone of her very own book should cause truedelphi Dec 2015 #29
Kicking to piss off the right people. n/t hootinholler Dec 2015 #5
Here, let me show you how much difference this will make Godhumor Dec 2015 #6
Yes. Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #36
So, she asked a question moobu2 Dec 2015 #7
It was a lot more than that Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #12
Fox News always refers to her as "Mrs. Clinton." yardwork Dec 2015 #8
You should consider watching less Fox News FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #13
But then I wouldn't recognize the source of so much posted on DU. yardwork Dec 2015 #17
and? nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #30
Clinton's pant suits are apparently enough eliminate her nomination. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #9
.. Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #14
BUT SHE GOT RICKY MARTIN'S ENDORSEMENT! Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #10
K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #15
Add to that reason: mylye2222 Dec 2015 #16
Interesting that Hillary & Obama were so far apart on this issue. senz Dec 2015 #18
No madokie Dec 2015 #25
The number of people who care about this MineralMan Dec 2015 #19
That's not exactly a great metric. Wilms Dec 2015 #20
In terms of the campaign, it is a MineralMan Dec 2015 #21
And of morality? Wilms Dec 2015 #22
I didn't follow that situation at all. MineralMan Dec 2015 #23
Then the OP is for you! Wilms Dec 2015 #24
Tacit dismissal due to American ignorance of foreign policy? Come on..... think Dec 2015 #26
No. Dismissal because it will have no effect on the MineralMan Dec 2015 #33
It gets a little tricky down there Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #35
It's one of many reasons she's unfit for the office. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #28
K and R (nt) bigwillq Dec 2015 #31
sweatshops, child labor and sexual slavery reddread Dec 2015 #32
Meh. the supporters have blocked out her similarities to Kissinger Doctor_J Dec 2015 #34
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