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Babel_17

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32. There was an article at The Washington Post that highlights where we are

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:59 PM

Dec 2015

No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level --I mean the wages of decent living.—Franklin D. Roosevelt

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/12/01/a-grim-bargain/

And I'm not pointing fingers. It's an encompassing issue of how our economy is going to work in the future. I think we need to look at everything, and think globally.

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"Everyone now is more or less a Socialist" [View all] Babel_17 Dec 2015 OP

Socialist Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #1

As a Sanders Supporter, I agree. Socialist Democrats would be more acceptable. I think it libdem4life Dec 2015 #3

It gets a bit hard to follow the distinctions in nomenclature Babel_17 Dec 2015 #4

No its quite simple VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #6

Linguistics is culture...a noun is different than an adjective used to delineate a noun. We start libdem4life Dec 2015 #7

Ooh, nice burn! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #10

Nope VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #11

And VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #12

Consider yourself schooled VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #13

Copy-pasting wikipedia isn't exactly "schooling" someone Scootaloo Dec 2015 #29

Hahahahaha... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #53

Can you make a multi-paragraph argument without copy-pasting Wikipedia? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #72

Are you President of DU now? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #73

Who cares about Norway or Sweden. They don't get a vote here. I'm ignoring your libdem4life Dec 2015 #68

Apparently Bernie Sanders does... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #74

What is fascinating, if you'll look back, I agreed with you. From there on it was parsing libdem4life Dec 2015 #78

Its not about how the word hurts him VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #79

There are more tendencies within socialist philosophies than just Marxism. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #30

Yes. But can you imagine getting any of this across to an Iowa farmer? libdem4life Dec 2015 #71

You do make a fair point. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #76

Who makes up your definitions? immoderate Dec 2015 #8

:) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #9

Wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #14

Wrong VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #16

OK, but where does my quote suggest different? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #17

This is Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #19

I think the media will get to all of that Babel_17 Dec 2015 #22

Pretty sure they have consolidated on a candidate now... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #23

You're wasting your time Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

Who makes mine? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #15

Am I not one of them? immoderate Dec 2015 #31

Wrong as always AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #48

Bullfucking shit... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #58

Chomsky... Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #2

Chomsky does bore down. Good link, thanks! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #5

If the Republicans yell "Sanders is a self-identified Socialist"... brooklynite Dec 2015 #18

He's like Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt, and Ike, and Babel_17 Dec 2015 #21

Like Lincoln? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #24

What Thou Formulate? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #25

Shakes head... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #26

No, I'm referring to my OP, "the history of progressivism" Babel_17 Dec 2015 #27

You are fighting a losing battle here, Babel. DU'ers who support HRC have nothing to add to the mother earth Dec 2015 #80

He's MLK, Jesus, and the Pope all rolled into one MaggieD Dec 2015 #38

Wine? PARTY!!! floriduck Dec 2015 #77

This is offensive. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #81

Guess that integrity schtick is blown all to hell now! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #82

"yes he is (you lose)" - how, exactly, is that losing? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #34

Pretending that he was always a Democrat for one! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #83

Poll: Most Americans unwilling to vote for a socialist brooklynite Dec 2015 #85

Do you have any argument or opinion that doesn't come from a poll? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #86

Why would we lose? liberalnarb Dec 2015 #84

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #20

Some more context Babel_17 Dec 2015 #28

Do they oppose ALL Capitalism? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #55

There was an article at The Washington Post that highlights where we are Babel_17 Dec 2015 #32

And yet the terms poll so poorly Gothmog Dec 2015 #35

Yeah, there's something to that Babel_17 Dec 2015 #36

The people are smarter than you give them credit for. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #56

. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #61

Sanders' own campaign manager does not think that Sanders will be the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #70

If socialism is so great.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #37

Labor existed before money Babel_17 Dec 2015 #39

Nobody gets paid without capital - that is a fact MaggieD Dec 2015 #40

I'm working for love! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #41

Is that the plan? MaggieD Dec 2015 #42

lol, so you got the point about labor? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #43

No, I think you are living in fantasy land MaggieD Dec 2015 #44

. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #45

Her supporters now push supply side AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #49

They are Socialist Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #51

Could you be even less relevant? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #52

Less relevent? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #54

Your posts of late have reverted into little more than AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #57

Damn skippy bye... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #60

Working for love, in all the wrong places Babel_17 Dec 2015 #46

"The point here is not to defend socialism" Babel_17 Dec 2015 #47

Socialist object to and oppose Capitalism VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #50

The history of the Progressive movement suggests otherwise Babel_17 Dec 2015 #59

They split on Capitalism years ago.. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #62

Not sure what you're replying to Babel_17 Dec 2015 #63

This is Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #64

Not sure what you're replying to Babel_17 Dec 2015 #65

Yes you do... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #66

lol. You don't actually reply to what I'm saying Babel_17 Dec 2015 #67

some great posts of yours on this thread Vanilla Rhapsody redstateblues Dec 2015 #69

Exactly right... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #75