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Gothmog

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35. And yet the terms poll so poorly
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:06 AM
Dec 2015

The terms "Socialist" and "Socialism" do not poll well and will be easy to use in attack ads.
From Pew http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/



The word ‘socialism’ triggers a negative reaction for most Americans, but certainly not for all. Six-in-ten (60%) people say they have a negative reaction to the word, while just 31% have a positive reaction. Those numbers are little changed from April 2010....

By contrast, socialism is a far more divisive word, with wide differences of opinion along racial, generational, socioeconomic and political lines. Fully nine-in-ten conservative Republicans (90%) view socialism negatively, while nearly six-in-ten liberal Democrats (59%) react positively. Low-income Americans are twice as likely as higher-income Americans to offer a positive assessment of socialism (43% among those with incomes under $30,000, 22% among those earning $75,000 or more).



From Gallop http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than one-third of Americans (36%) have a positive image of "socialism," while 58% have a negative image. Views differ by party and ideology, with a majority of Democrats and liberals saying they have a positive view of socialism, compared to a minority of Republicans and conservatives.



....Socialism

Socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested. Still, more than a third of Americans say they have a positive image of socialism.

Exactly how Americans define "socialism" or what exactly they think of when they hear the word is not known. The research simply measures Americans' reactions when a survey interviewer reads the word to them -- an exercise that helps shed light on connotations associated with this frequently used term.

There are significant differences in reactions to "socialism" across ideological and partisan groups:

A majority of 53% of Democrats have a positive image of socialism, compared to 17% of Republicans.
Sixty-one percent of liberals say their image of socialism is positive, compared to 39% of moderates and 20% of conservatives

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Socialist Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #1
As a Sanders Supporter, I agree. Socialist Democrats would be more acceptable. I think it libdem4life Dec 2015 #3
It gets a bit hard to follow the distinctions in nomenclature Babel_17 Dec 2015 #4
No its quite simple VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #6
Linguistics is culture...a noun is different than an adjective used to delineate a noun. We start libdem4life Dec 2015 #7
Ooh, nice burn! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #10
Nope VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #11
And VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #12
Consider yourself schooled VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #13
Copy-pasting wikipedia isn't exactly "schooling" someone Scootaloo Dec 2015 #29
Hahahahaha... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #53
Can you make a multi-paragraph argument without copy-pasting Wikipedia? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #72
Are you President of DU now? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #73
Who cares about Norway or Sweden. They don't get a vote here. I'm ignoring your libdem4life Dec 2015 #68
Apparently Bernie Sanders does... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #74
What is fascinating, if you'll look back, I agreed with you. From there on it was parsing libdem4life Dec 2015 #78
Its not about how the word hurts him VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #79
There are more tendencies within socialist philosophies than just Marxism. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #30
Yes. But can you imagine getting any of this across to an Iowa farmer? libdem4life Dec 2015 #71
You do make a fair point. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #76
Who makes up your definitions? immoderate Dec 2015 #8
:) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #9
Wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #14
Wrong VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #16
OK, but where does my quote suggest different? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #17
This is Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #19
I think the media will get to all of that Babel_17 Dec 2015 #22
Pretty sure they have consolidated on a candidate now... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #23
You're wasting your time Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33
Who makes mine? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #15
Am I not one of them? immoderate Dec 2015 #31
Wrong as always AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #48
Bullfucking shit... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #58
Chomsky... Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #2
Chomsky does bore down. Good link, thanks! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #5
If the Republicans yell "Sanders is a self-identified Socialist"... brooklynite Dec 2015 #18
He's like Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt, and Ike, and Babel_17 Dec 2015 #21
Like Lincoln? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #24
What Thou Formulate? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #25
Shakes head... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #26
No, I'm referring to my OP, "the history of progressivism" Babel_17 Dec 2015 #27
You are fighting a losing battle here, Babel. DU'ers who support HRC have nothing to add to the mother earth Dec 2015 #80
He's MLK, Jesus, and the Pope all rolled into one MaggieD Dec 2015 #38
Wine? PARTY!!! floriduck Dec 2015 #77
This is offensive. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #81
Guess that integrity schtick is blown all to hell now! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #82
"yes he is (you lose)" - how, exactly, is that losing? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #34
Pretending that he was always a Democrat for one! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #83
Poll: Most Americans unwilling to vote for a socialist brooklynite Dec 2015 #85
Do you have any argument or opinion that doesn't come from a poll? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #86
Why would we lose? liberalnarb Dec 2015 #84
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #20
Some more context Babel_17 Dec 2015 #28
Do they oppose ALL Capitalism? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #55
There was an article at The Washington Post that highlights where we are Babel_17 Dec 2015 #32
And yet the terms poll so poorly Gothmog Dec 2015 #35
Yeah, there's something to that Babel_17 Dec 2015 #36
The people are smarter than you give them credit for. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #56
. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #61
Sanders' own campaign manager does not think that Sanders will be the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #70
If socialism is so great.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #37
Labor existed before money Babel_17 Dec 2015 #39
Nobody gets paid without capital - that is a fact MaggieD Dec 2015 #40
I'm working for love! Babel_17 Dec 2015 #41
Is that the plan? MaggieD Dec 2015 #42
lol, so you got the point about labor? Babel_17 Dec 2015 #43
No, I think you are living in fantasy land MaggieD Dec 2015 #44
. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #45
Her supporters now push supply side AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #49
They are Socialist Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #51
Could you be even less relevant? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #52
Less relevent? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #54
Your posts of late have reverted into little more than AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #57
Damn skippy bye... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #60
Working for love, in all the wrong places Babel_17 Dec 2015 #46
"The point here is not to defend socialism" Babel_17 Dec 2015 #47
Socialist object to and oppose Capitalism VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #50
The history of the Progressive movement suggests otherwise Babel_17 Dec 2015 #59
They split on Capitalism years ago.. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #62
Not sure what you're replying to Babel_17 Dec 2015 #63
This is Democratic Underground VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #64
Not sure what you're replying to Babel_17 Dec 2015 #65
Yes you do... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #66
lol. You don't actually reply to what I'm saying Babel_17 Dec 2015 #67
some great posts of yours on this thread Vanilla Rhapsody redstateblues Dec 2015 #69
Exactly right... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #75
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