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28. I think pretty much yes.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:25 PM
Feb 2012

As to Jefferson, he may have been a Deist, but I'm sure he was baptized and raised protestant (Anglican, I'm guessing) and I don't think he ever formally renounced his Christianity.

Mormonism is not just a form or sect or denomination of Christianity: it's a whole new religion based on a Christian groundwork. For just one thing, they reject the Trinity and they reject the Nicene Creed -

That's a pretty fundamental, bedrock start. That's even before all the Jesus-came-to-America, and or "becoming Gods" thing and or Jesus and Satan being brothers.


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Here's the Nicene Creed as a reminder. Pretty much everyone in Christianity, Catholic and Protestant, buys it:

I believe in one God the Father Almighty,
Maker of heaven and earth,
And of all things visible and invisible:
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God,
Begotten of his Father before all worlds,
God of God, Light of Light,
Very God of very God,
Begotten, not made,
Being of one substance with the Father,
By whom all things were made;
Who for us men, and for our salvation came down from heaven,
And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary,
And was made man,
And was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate.
He suffered and was buried,
And the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures,
And ascended into heaven,
And sitteth on the right hand of the Father.
And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead:
Whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost,
The Lord and giver of life,
Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son,
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified,
Who spake by the Prophets.
And I believe one Catholick and Apostolick Church.
I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins.
And I look for the Resurrection of the dead,
And the life of the world to come.

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Right - Washington and Jefferson were Deists underpants Feb 2012 #1
No, that designation would go to William Howard Taft. no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #2
As was John Adams rurallib Feb 2012 #14
And Thomas Paine. ncteechur Feb 2012 #36
His being a cult member is something I wouldn't bring up. Mainly because I think all religions brewens Feb 2012 #3
I don't think I said anything about cults. denem Feb 2012 #5
I was refering to the "Christian" tendency to view Mormans as a cult. Something they should be brewens Feb 2012 #25
I don't think a person's religion should be off the table davidpdx Feb 2012 #4
The GOP leadership doesn't want to talk about his Religion. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #6
I thought that we already had a non-Christian President? Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #8
Regardless of his religion Romney is a vulture capitalist with think Feb 2012 #9
No, I think Thomas Jefferson was. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #10
I'm waiting for a good, solid, patriotic Satanist Boombaby Feb 2012 #11
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #20
The only problem I have with Romney being a Mormon Boombaby Feb 2012 #26
I thought it would be the xtra m towards the end! whistler162 Feb 2012 #27
I'm gonna blather about his religion all day long.... ingac70 Feb 2012 #12
There is no religious test for office in the U.S. rusty fender Feb 2012 #13
I don't think we've EVER had a "Chirstian" president... RevStPatrick Feb 2012 #15
carter... madrchsod Feb 2012 #17
i just reread the history of the mormon church in illinois madrchsod Feb 2012 #16
I have a fundie friend who is VERY concerned about Mittens' kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #21
where in the bible does it say jesus visited the "Americas" or that mormonism even exists? hmm nt msongs Feb 2012 #18
Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that he didn't? dmallind Feb 2012 #34
Even if Obama had 2 black parents who spent their whole lives attending kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #19
It's off the table because Rethugs don't want to lose Evangelical votes. CanonRay Feb 2012 #22
So; Romney is a blue blooded Mormon........ wandy Feb 2012 #23
Wonder how a Scientologist libodem Feb 2012 #24
I think pretty much yes. downwardly_mobile Feb 2012 #28
"Being of one substance with the Father", I understand is the sticking point. denem Feb 2012 #29
Free trivia nugget - the phrase "one iota" meaning a tiny amount arose here dmallind Feb 2012 #35
I'm not someone who underestimates the GOP ever, but I still insist WE don't NEED to go here. Bombtrack Feb 2012 #30
No, because Mitt Romney is a Christian. Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #31
No. But he would take the oath with his hand on top of "The Book of Mormon". MatthewStLouis Feb 2012 #32
In point of fact... Showrunner Feb 2012 #33
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