2016 Postmortem

Eric J in MN

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69. K & R (NT)

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Sanders and O'Malley Call for Restoring Iowa Black-Brown Debate. Hillary refuses. [View all] askew Dec 2015 OP

kick 840high Dec 2015 #1

Translation: Clinton doesn't care about equity, the interests of people of color. Crystalite Dec 2015 #73

Says it all, doesn't it? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #2

no hillary supporter first post here? Tell me again how bernie is a racist roguevalley Dec 2015 #35

Forums also highlight each candidate's position FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #3

if bernie was on top he would be in favor of this juxtaposed Dec 2015 #41

The DNC changed the rules Lordquinton Dec 2015 #42

Bull daybranch Dec 2015 #45

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #4

When you're behind in the polls, see if whining helps. leftofcool Dec 2015 #5

when you can get away with rewriting the rules to your own benefit... tk2kewl Dec 2015 #8

Bernie and Debbie are best friends now-so keep stuffing her under the bus. He won't appreciate it. MADem Dec 2015 #48

yikes aanother warning for how Bernie supporters should act. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #56

PLEASE...keep on doing what you're doing, if that's what floats your boat! MADem Dec 2015 #65

like I say. Hillary may win but the world will lose because of it. 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #66

No one is demanding that you shift allegiances. MADem Dec 2015 #67

No it won't. JRLeft Dec 2015 #70

Well, you think that if you'd like. I think you're wrong. MADem Dec 2015 #71

I'm not going to get to a huge mudslinging contest. She has major red flags. JRLeft Dec 2015 #74

No she doesn't--she has the support of most of our party. nt MADem Dec 2015 #75

These machinations by the DNC/Clinton nexus will bite them in the butt. <nt> AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #6

The people of Iowa will not like this Menshunables Dec 2015 #7

O'Malley and Sanders need the exposure firebrand80 Dec 2015 #9

Why can't they have a debate between themselves? pnwmom Dec 2015 #24

Because then the DNC throws them out of the upcoming debates jeff47 Dec 2015 #29

So be it Stryder Dec 2015 #51

The next debate is the Saturday night before Christmas. jeff47 Dec 2015 #53

And the Black & Brown Forum is Jan 16th. winter is coming Dec 2015 #68

Wrong, big time... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #80

bernie and martin can have the event without hillary. nobody is stopping them from doing so. nt msongs Dec 2015 #10

The DNC is stopping them. If they hold a debate without DNC approval, they are banned from askew Dec 2015 #11

If they don't show up what is Hillary gonna do ... debate herself? Hiraeth Dec 2015 #13

They'd just cancel the debate which Hillary and the DNC would love. askew Dec 2015 #14

I understand she is pivoted to the General but, do you Hiraeth Dec 2015 #18

No one knows about the other choices. Only 45% of the country has even heard of O'Malley. askew Dec 2015 #21

Yes, I think so. She looks like a spoiled brat. I thought R women would maybe cross over to vote Hiraeth Dec 2015 #22

Hillary won't get any crossover votes and will struggle with independents. askew Dec 2015 #50

And drive Stryder Dec 2015 #57

Actually, the best thing that could happen to her is: she could save face and back out and endorse Hiraeth Dec 2015 #58

And drive Stryder Dec 2015 #59

Do we really need a pivoting candidate? NowSam Dec 2015 #46

O'Malley is more than willing to do exactly that. Bernie isn't. That's the problem. askew Dec 2015 #52

ban them and see what the american ppl have to say! juxtaposed Dec 2015 #43

So put them on different stages. winter is coming Dec 2015 #12

It puts the organizers in the middle of a DNC fight. askew Dec 2015 #15

O'Malley's the only one with nothing to lose. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #16

Sanders's strategy is a loser strategy. He needs the free media as much as O'Malley does. askew Dec 2015 #19

why is it too late to do that now? Hiraeth Dec 2015 #25

It should have been done months ago when Hillary was wounded. But, better late than never. askew Dec 2015 #54

I don't think it matters until after the holidays anyway. Most of America is focused on that. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #60

That would have worked only if everyone except Hillary agreed to it. winter is coming Dec 2015 #62

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #17

Yeah, especially when she told those wall street boys to cut it out. That was a real WINNER, alright Hiraeth Dec 2015 #20

Don't forget the Guilliani 911 channeling. Jackilope Dec 2015 #27

I REPRESENTED NEW YORK !!! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #30

She's gone FULL GIULIANI. Invoked 9/11again yesterday, which is at least the 3rd time, IIRC kath Dec 2015 #33

she's our champion! juxtaposed Dec 2015 #44

that's why she doesn't want any more and fears further exposure! MisterP Dec 2015 #23

She did, which is why I find her reluctance to debate more often mind numbingly stupid BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #49

Two out of three eligible Dem candidates say "Yes" NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #26

What are DNC and HC afraid of Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #28

So go have it. Lease a room. Leave her a podium, since you aren't afraid. A local jtuck004 Dec 2015 #31

retitle it. don't call it a debate. challenge that frizzy haired fascist on her decision roguevalley Dec 2015 #36

frizzy haired fascist TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #47

Or even talk about issues that _are_ important to people's lives. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2015 #64

my my, dws is sure earning her keep restorefreedom Dec 2015 #32

Why do you Bernie Sanders supporters want more debates? moobu2 Dec 2015 #34

Why doesn't Hillary want more? We do because it's right and it's more illuminating and democratic. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #40

If Bernie was ahead THAT MUCH moobu2 Dec 2015 #55

What rules? highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #61

Exactly Capt. Obvious Dec 2015 #63

Fear plus unnecessary power plays highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #37

What's the matter, McFly, er... HRC/DWS? Jackilope Dec 2015 #38

Hillary supporters will say retrowire Dec 2015 #39

K & R (NT) Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #69

She thinks she owns blacks jfern Dec 2015 #72

If Bernie was willing to go negative, he'd just air a greatest hits from the 2008 campaign askew Dec 2015 #85

Hillary is afraid that African-Americans and Spanish-speaking voters will see how much better JDPriestly Dec 2015 #76

Well, O'Malley is by far the best candidate on immigration/refugee/Latino issues. askew Dec 2015 #83

Well I have no problem with the event being altered to a town hall event. Kalidurga Dec 2015 #77

It's not a townhall event. It's a stupid forum event like Rachel's which allowed Hillary to askew Dec 2015 #82

2008 Democrats Debate At The Iowa Brown And Black Presidential Forum BlueStateLib Dec 2015 #78

It's a debate. It's always been a debate. They can call it a forum, but all candidates are on askew Dec 2015 #84

Hillary Clinton attended Black Brown debate with Obama, Edwards, etc in 2008... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #79

Yep, and in 2008 when she was losing to Obama both she and her pal, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, askew Dec 2015 #81