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Bluenorthwest

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87. I think that is overstated, I'd say they just don't mind exploiting the people of Balitimore

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:55 AM

Dec 2015

in rhetoric that ranges from 'nothing is more important than these issues they face' to 'why talk about those problems when there is terrorism in the world'. It's a matter of making use of issues for one's own purpose rather than advocating issues with the goal of making progress on those issues.

I've been doing a great deal of reading about Baltimore, prompted by current events and the involvement of artists I know. Lots of major problems there, from lead paint poisoning to condemned buildings to lack of access to groceries, a lack of jobs. These things have to be addressed, they can not be put eternally aside while we focus on 'terror'. To do so would be morally reprehensible. Those who are calling for that are simply wrong, even from a national security point of view.

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Hillary supporters here obviously don't care about Baltimore [View all] Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 OP

That's the take home message... Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #1

Hillary's crew are spinning out of control Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #2

The mess is Bernie's not HRC's. The only spin is coming from those looking for a soft place to fall. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #3

The people of Baltimore come first Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #5

Of course they come first, and they did come first. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #8

Sure HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #20

Bernie made that clear. He didn't talk about ISIS. All's well that ends well. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #25

that doesn't matter to some. roguevalley Dec 2015 #55

Lolz... artislife Dec 2015 #70

He doesn't buy into the right wing panic AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #90

And some are opportunists who will set aside principles and ethics cui bono Dec 2015 #100

Honestly, after today I am positive the biggest enemy artislife Dec 2015 #69

I know, right? MaggieD Dec 2015 #22

Yes, yes, I know.... daleanime Dec 2015 #31

Nice response :) Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #57

Cool story, bro. nt onehandle Dec 2015 #4

Poverty is much bigger issue Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #6

And probably all the same ones who were running around trying to say he was only for white males cui bono Dec 2015 #40

its amazing Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #51

Yes. Exactly. He is trying to make people's lives better. That's what we're supposed to be doing. cui bono Dec 2015 #53

This is exactly right. The attacks today were deliberately to distract from that issue Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #7

The press attacked Bernie? Really? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #9

I don't think the poster was implying the attacks came from the press. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #21

Well, yeah. But today is Tuesday: Attack Bernie Tuesday. Happens every week. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #23

Sweet, that makes it part of.... daleanime Dec 2015 #34

Haha... cui bono Dec 2015 #41

Yep, another one to put into the weekly rotation. n/t bvf Dec 2015 #47

Bernie is actually talking about kitchen table issues that matter peacebird Dec 2015 #10

exactly Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #14

Bernie can't walk and chew gum at the same time? KMOD Dec 2015 #26

Because talking about ISIS and only ISIS demonstrates multi-tasking. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #33

Oh please, KMOD Dec 2015 #36

Considering he did just that, you might wanna rethink that complaint. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #43

No ISIS questions. KMOD Dec 2015 #45

And he was asked an ISIS question. jeff47 Dec 2015 #46

His campaign manager tried to instruct the press to not ask him about ISIS. KMOD Dec 2015 #49

More to the point, his Press Secretary tried to ORDER the press not to ask ISIS questions. MADem Dec 2015 #58

Amen, MADem. KMOD Dec 2015 #61

*cough cough* TM99 Dec 2015 #80

I know I should be used to it, Vattel Dec 2015 #85

Watch the video, he did not get pissy. jeff47 Dec 2015 #95

she will not answer all questions,not about her son in law using her sos connection for business questionseverything Dec 2015 #98

Hell, they didn't even ask him until he was walking away MaggieD Dec 2015 #59

Chewing gum is a disgusting habit. nt artislife Dec 2015 #71

You know as well as I that we care about Baltimore. upaloopa Dec 2015 #11

hmmm....it seems to me some people care way more about ISIS now Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #52

Because HRH is a warmonger and apparently, they haven't had enough of wars. n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #66

Who's HRH? misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #103

because you made it up upaloopa Dec 2015 #68

Just going by what I read. I mean it used to be BLM 24/7 around here...now it's.... Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #83

Excuse me? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #12

Looking forward to a president who can handle domestic and foreign policy both GusBob Dec 2015 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #27

That's nice Trajan Dec 2015 #30

Bingo. KMOD Dec 2015 #37

True, he won't crack jokes about killing heads of states artislife Dec 2015 #72

Exactly. peacebird Dec 2015 #82

But you trust someone who voted for the Iraq war and loves trade deals. Dawgs Dec 2015 #92

Iraq War thing again. You know that may open the door to.. bernies MIC F-35 Contract. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #105

What an inappropriate thing to say! Dem2 Dec 2015 #15

you missed the point Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #17

Your painting with far to broad a brush. Agschmid Dec 2015 #62

C'Mon Rosa... They Don't Care About ANYTHING Other Than Winning... WillyT Dec 2015 #16

It's It's Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #18

Yes... Yes You Are... So Are We... We Got YOUR BACK !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #19

Guess where I've been? Skidmore Dec 2015 #116

Why think about poor Americans when there's a boogie man to scare up MIC dollars? Scuba Dec 2015 #28

Well lets talk about who's State benefitted by F-35 MIC Contracts. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #106

I just iggied the first MOM supporter ... Trajan Dec 2015 #29

lol KMOD Dec 2015 #38

Lol. We're not long gone. we've just moved on to the GE campaiign misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #120

They want a safe space matt819 Dec 2015 #32

... KMOD Dec 2015 #39

If Hillary gets the nom and loses the general (which I'm sure she would) cui bono Dec 2015 #42

Yup. SoapBox Dec 2015 #44

I don't care if they blame us artislife Dec 2015 #73

They tried to hide you. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #63

Their fingers must be twitching and sending accidental alerts now. cui bono Dec 2015 #101

Thanks for this matt819 Dec 2015 #132

Or black lives. Otherwise they would support canning Rahm. morningfog Dec 2015 #35

Interesting, isn't it...nt artislife Dec 2015 #74

Now that's the way to win people over. JohnnyRingo Dec 2015 #48

Well, I would never be so crass as suggest Bernie supporters don't care about San Bernedino. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #50

Exactly MaggieD Dec 2015 #60

Ghettos need Diversity and integration not just fresh produce. ErikJ Dec 2015 #54

Ghettos don't need diversity or integration ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #112

Like what? nt ErikJ Dec 2015 #113

Like an end to redlining ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #117

What kind of redlining? ErikJ Dec 2015 #124

The kind of redlining that ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #129

Probably mostly insurance rates too high. ErikJ Dec 2015 #131

Except the insurance companies can't/won't produce loss data 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #133

It's been apparent for a while now ibegurpard Dec 2015 #56

it became obvious #Black Lives Matter stopped mattering to Clinton's boosters azurnoir Dec 2015 #64

It is pretty sad, isnt it.. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #67

...and there it is. artislife Dec 2015 #75

I haven't seen them all weigh in on this issue yet. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #76

Black Lives Matter has not and will not endorse anyone Number23 Dec 2015 #110

What is so disgusting about this thread? azurnoir Dec 2015 #122

And I guess my point is that there is a reason that Sanders supporters have a really Number23 Dec 2015 #128

That really struck me, when I saw those comments earlier.. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #65

This is the dumbest thing I've read yet on DU. RandySF Dec 2015 #77

I think it is in part a response to your own OP slamming Bernie for focusing on Baltimore and the Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #89

And this is the problem with Bernie and most of you. RandySF Dec 2015 #93

My point is that you and this OP are basically vending the same goods, hyperbolic bashing of the Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #99

Wall Street and CNN supporters? RandySF Dec 2015 #78

Bernie eats Kittens. Lil Missy Dec 2015 #79

Don't slander Hillary supporters Ali-96 Dec 2015 #81

Given that you are new I appreciate the enthusiasm but if you think this discussion is about the Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #84

... SidDithers Dec 2015 #86

I think that is overstated, I'd say they just don't mind exploiting the people of Balitimore Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #87

They can't grasp why Sanders doesn't drop everything AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #88

Obviously. Lol nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #91

What's upsetting you folks RandySF Dec 2015 #94

Not necessarily. However, relatively few DUers live in the MineralMan Dec 2015 #96

Rather presumptuous aren't you? Up until yesterday Sanders and his supporters... George II Dec 2015 #97

Its a pathetic attempt to now, in the middle of a crises of murders & refugees, misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #109

Yeah ... That Liberty Union thing was ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #114

And yet, you have enough...force of character to support Clinton. How old were you in 2008? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #119

First, I don't support HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #126

Are we to say every time I read negative post towards Hillary I can conclude Bernie supporters Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #104

Well she never walked off stage in a huff . misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #108

The conservative tough stand on drug laws has hurt the AA community disproportionally. The rhett o rick Dec 2015 #111

No we won't ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #115

I hear ya 1strong. Am pretty certain they'd never approach your group for answers anyway misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #118

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #121

I follow him also & I have much respect for his statements lately misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #125

I'm afraid MO'M is caught in that strange media space ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #127

So I've noticed. Funny, isn't it? CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #107

And, as HRC's CONTINUED defense of the Omnibus Crime Bill of 1996 proves Ken Burch Dec 2015 #123

Dear OP... msrizzo Dec 2015 #130