2016 Postmortem

Lazy Daisy

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99. confiscatory taxes in exchange for the government taking care of them?

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:33 AM

Dec 2015

I call it fair taxes in order for our country to take care of our country.

Education
Infrastructure
Healthcare

I want my government to take care of a public school system that actually educates our children
I want my government to take care of infrastructure so they are safe to use
I want my government to provide a healthcare system that doesn't exclude anybody because of lack of funds

And while we're at it.... I've often thought we'd have better police departments if they weren't constantly attacked financially.
If they were compensated better, maybe they would get better candidates who wouldn't beat, kill and rape civilians.

I'm a little tired of my government resembling an absent father figure who gives mom $40 a week to take care of the household while he spends the other $200 of his pay on partying it up. Then blame the household for not being able to provide a home HE deserves.

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Why Bernie Sanders Can't Win [View all] MaggieD Dec 2015 OP

Authors are ALL upper echelon Third Way. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #1

I know I am! onehandle Dec 2015 #3

Wait, these polls were conducted by Third Way? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #4

The Third Way figured out that people are mad at a corrupt DC? Mnpaul Dec 2015 #69

Nice argument. He can't win. Got it. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #2

How about offering a thoughtful explanation about how he can? brooklynite Dec 2015 #76

Why bother. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #78

Excellent idea! brooklynite Dec 2015 #82

That's the spirit. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #84

With real votes, cast on real ballots, by real people, in voting booths. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #86

By winning a majority in the Electoral College. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #119

Hard to do that if you're not nominated... brooklynite Dec 2015 #121

I'll get the lights. bvf Dec 2015 #87

If voters are fed up with "politicians, government, campaigns, and Congress " dflprincess Dec 2015 #5

He's been in congress for 25 years MaggieD Dec 2015 #8

He has always been an outsider AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #12

You don't get to be there 25 yrs and call yourself an outsider VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #19

Wallowing at the public trough for 25 years without much to show for it, he's not an outsider Sheepshank Dec 2015 #114

He sold his vote to the Democrats in 1989 so they would not run a viable Democrat against him. seabeyond Dec 2015 #22

Exactly MaggieD Dec 2015 #24

He has always been an outsider AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #50

He played an insider game, to be able to play the outsider. seabeyond Dec 2015 #55

No he is not.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #104

Hold on here... angrychair Dec 2015 #89

25 yrs.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #105

Bernie won't win because Americans like a gigantic national debt, plus being in debt up... BlueJazz Dec 2015 #6

That's the long and short of it, yup. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #13

Aw..Thank you! BlueJazz Dec 2015 #16

That's a conservative critique...That's why Sanders message is important Armstead Dec 2015 #7

I think most people like to believe in opportunity MaggieD Dec 2015 #14

Rush Limbaugh -- "Support the Rich because someday you might be rich" Armstead Dec 2015 #15

Do you really think your fellow Dems want a rigged system? MaggieD Dec 2015 #18

Some Dems want a rigged system, not all Dems, your choice. nt slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #21

You wouldn't know it from reading here MaggieD Dec 2015 #27

There is a wide world outside of DU :) nt slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #57

That's my point MaggieD Dec 2015 #60

See post #1, I would never give credence to the Third Way ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #77

So you don't like Obama, you don't like... MaggieD Dec 2015 #81

Yes I hate all Dems and love the other guys, our country was 'slipping' under Bush ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #91

As you should. I for one wont settle for hillary goldman-sachs clinton. Bubzer Dec 2015 #97

Thx, but we need to tread carefully ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #98

Some do Armstead Dec 2015 #28

YES! jeff47 Dec 2015 #32

The Hillary campaign, the DNC and the Third Way all do AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #56

I get it. Wilms Dec 2015 #9

... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #17

Thank you for risking a hide to post this. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #10

Lol. The victim mentality is hilarious. morningfog Dec 2015 #33

My stalkers are hilarious. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #34

Oh, yes. They're all so PEEEEERRRRRRSECUTED. It's just awful! kath Dec 2015 #38

. beerandjesus Dec 2015 #37

Still open 20 hrs later TSIAS Dec 2015 #107

. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #112

It's something to make thinking people think. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #11

Gee, I thought you specifically wrote to those people... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #20

Snort. kath Dec 2015 #39

LOL! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #45

Because Of People Like You... WillyT Dec 2015 #23

Yes, I often write articles railing against things that are impossible. jeff47 Dec 2015 #25

Well what is your theory on why Bernie is losing in almost.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #31

Why do I need a theory? jeff47 Dec 2015 #36

Kick & rec for the 3rd way authors. Rofl. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #26

Soe interesting information at the end of the article. Kodak gave up 145,000 employees because Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #29

Yes, the whole article is interesting, and it brings up.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #35

Feet struck in cement. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #40

H1B visas are a disincentive for Americans to get STEM degrees. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #46

I don't think you understand H1B visas then MaggieD Dec 2015 #52

More workers = fewer salary increases = lower prevailing wages. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #54

Even if that dubious statement were true MaggieD Dec 2015 #59

If we had tuition-free state universities, Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #65

There you go again... MaggieD Dec 2015 #83

confiscatory taxes in exchange for the government taking care of them? Lazy Daisy Dec 2015 #99

Hi. I write software for a living. I know a lot about H1B visas. jeff47 Dec 2015 #92

I can speak a bit about them, as my ex was here on an H1B. zigby Dec 2015 #101

No. The program is now a vehicle for outsourcing high-tech jobs overseas Turn CO Blue Dec 2015 #102

The reality is that our corporations are exporting STEM jobs. Better to go into politics, or law. reformist2 Dec 2015 #68

Same argument could be used for, "Why Hillary Clinton Can't Win." Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #30

Perhaps -- that could be a discussion as well MaggieD Dec 2015 #42

Except the Third Way knows that when Hillary starts talking like a Populist dflprincess Dec 2015 #43

Yeah, maybe they're so sure of Hillary Clinton's insincerity Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #47

She was the 11th most liberal senator in the senate... MaggieD Dec 2015 #49

Do you agree with the article? Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #51

That's not what the article says.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #53

The article also refers to policies Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #63

As the article says.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #71

Actually the crooked dealers are the great corporations and the wealthy - that's who controls Triana Dec 2015 #41

Well it's a chicken or the egg discussion, so... MaggieD Dec 2015 #48

K^R Cha Dec 2015 #44

if i may borrow a phrase from another campaign... Scootaloo Dec 2015 #58

I think you're going to be very disappointed MaggieD Dec 2015 #62

One would imagine that the "upset" parties are the ones cranking out angry OP's about it every 5 min Scootaloo Dec 2015 #70

I think it's a good article for some actual "thinking style" discussion MaggieD Dec 2015 #73

Funny, the article doesn't invite discussion Scootaloo Dec 2015 #75

So I Guess They're So Angry That They'll Just Elect More Of The Same.... global1 Dec 2015 #61

You think? MaggieD Dec 2015 #64

Brings up some interesting points about polling. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #66

Blah Ba-Blah Blah. Ba-Blah Ba-Blah Ba-Blah! longship Dec 2015 #67

Well then they've been misguided very well. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #72

Several copycat threads will be coming up hahahaha n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #74

Blah, de-Blah, de-Blah-Blah. De-Blah-Blah de-Blah de-Blah! nt longship Dec 2015 #79

Who was that guy, SheilaT Dec 2015 #80

.... Kalidurga Dec 2015 #85

Name recognition and super-delegates. Ho hum. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #88

rec riversedge Dec 2015 #90

POLITICO HAHAHAHAH jkbRN Dec 2015 #93

Sanders cant win shwnrob Dec 2015 #94

"Suicide watch" bvf Dec 2015 #100

Perhaps it's not meant literally (as in taking one's own life) but figuratively ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #109

Perhaps you're presuming to speak for somebody else. bvf Dec 2015 #115

Does that bother you? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #116

Nope. Not in the least. bvf Dec 2015 #120

What does it say? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #122

A sincere question deserves a sincere response. bvf Dec 2015 #123

That depends on the question. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #125

Welcome TSIAS Dec 2015 #108

Thank Goddess that you're keeping an unrelenting eye on his insignificance MannyGoldstein Dec 2015 #95

Makes perfect sense to me. nt oasis Dec 2015 #96

Because he can't win the Dem primary much less the general. McCamy Taylor Dec 2015 #103

From the article: "'It clearly panders to the lowest R B Garr Dec 2015 #106

The more important question is: can Hillary win? Vinca Dec 2015 #110

Bye, Felicia! TSIAS Dec 2015 #111

^^^ This is what makes DU suck. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #113

Yet here you are. bvf Dec 2015 #124

Oh, dear, we won't be hearing from her until the 24th of February or so. kath Dec 2015 #117

Politico? I thought HRC supporters were offended by right-wing sources for OP's. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #118

LMAO!!!Yes keep hoping.....its going repeat of 2008 bowens43 Dec 2015 #126

Bernie Sanders Favorability "Almost Unheard of" gordyfl Dec 2015 #127

Even if that wasn't a titanic load of BS, I'd still vote for him. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #128