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JaneyVee

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71. What exactly are you even talking about? Do you have a question for me?

Reply to Matariki (Reply #66)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:52 PM

Dec 2015

This is getting weird.

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Bernie Sanders' disingenuous economics [View all] cosmicone Dec 2015 OP

Another dishonest post from a Clinton supporter, why am I not shocked? Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #1

You're not missing anything. arcane1 Dec 2015 #2

Your charts purposely break down the brackets of income cosmicone Dec 2015 #6

Bernie has not suggested a 90% top rate. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #19

What are the brackets of income in your chart? It's not even based on the U.S. economy. arcane1 Dec 2015 #25

Another dishonest post.... Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #118

There are hundreds if not thousands of charts out there that demonstrate similar data. You... George II Dec 2015 #138

I spent maybe 5 seconds researching this. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #162

A second admission - first you say you didn't read the OP yet called it dishonest, and second.... George II Dec 2015 #163

If someone told you dog shit tasted like strawberry cheesecake Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #167

! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #168

And notice they haven't come back to answer the MANY challenges to their lies. arcane1 Dec 2015 #148

Not only that, but Fawke Em Dec 2015 #18

You make an excellent point right here... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #37

How can you call a post "dishonest" and "garbage" when you ADMIT that you didn't read it? George II Dec 2015 #41

I'm guessing that it's a thing. I've seen it before. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #124

The entire premise the OP is based on is false. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #169

Results of Your Jury Service hueymahl Dec 2015 #44

Another great jury that sees through the OP's bullshit arcane1 Dec 2015 #160

That first chart is misleading and incomplete (and it's almost 10 years old) - is that intentional? George II Dec 2015 #137

Sp don't look to government, look to more capitalism to make the poor better off??? Seriously? reformist2 Dec 2015 #3

I disagree with you but a good post Armstead Dec 2015 #4

Pickett and Wilkinson's "The Spirit Level" makes the counter argument Recursion Dec 2015 #5

Your point is entirely valid cosmicone Dec 2015 #8

"She wants to do redistribution as well" tazkcmo Dec 2015 #128

Read her economic plan. cosmicone Dec 2015 #132

Read my response. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #134

re: "90% tax sounds good until it creates no new jobs." thesquanderer Dec 2015 #146

1946 to 1964 was when US was a net exporter of goods by 6:1 margin cosmicone Dec 2015 #147

As noted, BS is NOT suggesting the 90%+ top rate of 1946-1964 thesquanderer Dec 2015 #155

I never suggested that marginal tax rates have an impact on export/import cosmicone Dec 2015 #156

No, but you said that today's different economy with its trade imbalance... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #157

Fair enough cosmicone Dec 2015 #158

are you being sarcastic, this is the same bullshit fantasy they have been selling for 40 years Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #7

This is not supply side cosmicone Dec 2015 #9

Yeah, actually you are talking TEXTBOOK supply-side economics, Cone Scootaloo Dec 2015 #28

It is not .. cosmicone Dec 2015 #29

I suspect you may not understand the subject too very well Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

That is utterly ludicrous cosmicone Dec 2015 #58

You're making a supply-side argument Scootaloo Dec 2015 #61

I did not. Not every argument against Sanders' unicorns cosmicone Dec 2015 #70

No, not every argument against Sanders' proposals is supply-side economics. But this one is. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #73

It Worked Before... And Gave Us The Greatest Expansion Of The U.S. Economy For Over 40 years... WillyT Dec 2015 #10

Different economic times cosmicone Dec 2015 #11

Let's Give A Try...Start With A 75% Top Marginal Tax Rate... You Want A Break On Your Taxes ??? WillyT Dec 2015 #14

And Can You Please Explain Why This Wouldn't Work ??? WillyT Dec 2015 #15

Because Hillary isn't proposing it n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #22

And that's because we were Hell-Bent on making Germany and Japan big industrial export countries. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #110

Just curious - you're doing pretty well financially, eh? Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #12

There was a recent OP suggesting it is hard to get by on $250k!!!! JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #20

I saw that, whoa boy that was a wild one! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #52

A Republican message board, this is not. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #13

Linkless factless Op AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #16

Results of your jury... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #34

Thin the skin is these days. What a lame alert. arcane1 Dec 2015 #38

Ooh! Ooh! I know... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #39

You mean you cannot refute it without links? cosmicone Dec 2015 #75

Strange thing for you to say when your OP doesn't contain a single source or a y-axis unit. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #79

Could one in fact argue that the OP is projecting his own KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #106

It means you have no source AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #86

Muddled rubbish catnhatnh Dec 2015 #17

And "global, between country, and within country" have nothing to do with income brackets. arcane1 Dec 2015 #24

Ithink that might be the most delightfully surreal thing I've seen this week Scootaloo Dec 2015 #30

Sanders is pretty safe with that angle madville Dec 2015 #21

Exactly BainsBane Dec 2015 #27

It's only rhetoric as long as Democrats refuse to fight for it Armstead Dec 2015 #31

^^^ this ^^^ we have a lot of work to do but, I want Bernie leading the way. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #47

Fight for what exactly? BainsBane Dec 2015 #87

First of all.... Armstead Dec 2015 #122

He's unfit to lead. nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #23

Wait... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #40

You must not have received the memo Kentonio Dec 2015 #113

Thank you for the dissertation on trickle-down economics, Cone Scootaloo Dec 2015 #26

I dare say that puts the issue at rest. Piketty can go home, his field is done. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #43

That is NOT trickle down economics and any statement to that effect is untrue cosmicone Dec 2015 #55

Re-phrasing the argument doesn't make the argument any different Scootaloo Dec 2015 #60

In either directon of tax rates cosmicone Dec 2015 #74

I'm not casting aspersions, I'm describing the argument you're using. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #85

Care to defend your chart??? catnhatnh Dec 2015 #32

Taking more money from the poor who are struggling already is not going to help them to care Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #35

Who is taking more money from the poor exactly? Kentonio Dec 2015 #114

The tax proposals. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #115

The ones that pay higher wages, then tax a tiny amount Kentonio Dec 2015 #123

Taking away from the struggling people is a burden. Terrible proposal. He has Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #125

Sorry Kentonio Dec 2015 #126

I am not worried, it will not happen. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #127

As an economist I agree completely JaneyVee Dec 2015 #36

True or False: MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #42

And we already had that kind of tax up until the 60's when it got dropped... cascadiance Dec 2015 #142

This explains the need for it, doesn't it? MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #164

As an economist, how can you agree without a y-axis unit or even a reference?? n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #46

because she only plays one on the internet. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #48

Uh, no. It's my job. Accounting. Balancing budgets. What do you do? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #51

Accountant != "Economist" Matariki Dec 2015 #54

I have 2 economic degrees and I'm a UPM in the DGA union. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #56

And so you're arguing in favor of this nonsense OP Matariki Dec 2015 #59

Come now, she agrees with the OP! Despite having no idea what the y-axis represents! JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #63

Hey, be fair to JaneyVee! Scootaloo Dec 2015 #65

Milanovic!!! Matariki Dec 2015 #77

Where am I arguing? You seem to be the only one doing that. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #64

Picking on a word while ignoring the point is called deflection Matariki Dec 2015 #66

What exactly are you even talking about? Do you have a question for me? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #71

"As an economist I agree completely" Matariki Dec 2015 #80

I thought I made that obvious. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #83

I do math for a living and study finance and economics on the side. And I can assure you that JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #57

I have a much more extensive background than.. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #68

But anything with expert level knowledge of markets or macro type stuff? JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #76

Lets just say, I've dabbled in the stock market. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #82

Er, yeah, no, that's not going to suffice. Anybody with a little money can do that. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #84

This is almost as bizarre as the OP bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #105

I have 12 phd's and four nobel prizes! Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #139

I carry my astronaut application in my wallet. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #141

Nurses for Bernie. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #69

She stayed at a Holiday Inn Express don't cha know? blackspade Dec 2015 #91

huzzah! ibegurpard Dec 2015 #93

I'm referring to his economic policy, not the charts. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #49

Do you have experience/do research in the area of macroeconomics w/ graduate degrees(pref. PhD)? JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #67

Yes, I have 2 economic degrees. No, neither are PHDs. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #78

Got it. Yeah the thing I have heard is that you have to do the Ph.D. when you have no JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #81

Money comes from the US Department of the Treasury, and several mints and printers Scootaloo Dec 2015 #50

A qualification is to have a Ph.D (roughly), and no that is not an exaggeration. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #62

The other day you said you would vote for Trump if Sanders was the nominee AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #88

As chairman of the fed I disagree. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #130

An actual economist says "um no". Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #144

Bet I can guess what tax bracket you are in. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #45

Fess up, this is David Koch's secret DU account, right? Matariki Dec 2015 #53

As a consummate liberal, I find your characterization insulting cosmicone Dec 2015 #95

Making stuff up doesn't make you a "messenger" Matariki Dec 2015 #101

So what does that make you cosmicone Dec 2015 #102

you post a defense of the status quo, this neoliberal thatcherite nightmare we are stuck in Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #154

And they STILL won't own up to their fake chart. arcane1 Dec 2015 #161

LMAO! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #109

Oh Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #72

That is not relevant cosmicone Dec 2015 #97

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Dec 2015 #89

A ridiculous counterfactual post. blackspade Dec 2015 #90

just to clarify one of your points restorefreedom Dec 2015 #92

Then why bring up billionaires? cosmicone Dec 2015 #94

becsuse the billionaires are the problem. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #96

You think all billionaires hide their money offshore? cosmicone Dec 2015 #98

then i guess the 20 trillion restorefreedom Dec 2015 #99

That money is owned by companies - not by individuals cosmicone Dec 2015 #100

Amazing Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #103

They may not be by themselves cosmicone Dec 2015 #104

A full THIRD of Americans have NO retirement income zigby Dec 2015 #166

both corps and individuals restorefreedom Dec 2015 #129

I am trying to get sympathy for poor people cosmicone Dec 2015 #131

ahhh so you are a fan of trickle down restorefreedom Dec 2015 #136

You are exactly correct... Sancho Dec 2015 #120

Is that a worldwide chart? Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #107

2 ops from a place of privilege about Bernie being "disingenuous"...oh, I get it. It's today's word! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #108

The 1 % is starting to clutch its pearls. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #111

Eeek! Bernie's gonna take my yacht and give it to a homeless guy! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Dec 2015 #116

I don't have faith in this pro-Wall Street plan. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #117

Great OP...and Bernie is missing the boat on some other points. Thanks cosmicone ! Sancho Dec 2015 #119

Baffling bullshit. GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #121

more ridiculous crap probably passed to the true believers by hills handlers bowens43 Dec 2015 #133

Thank you. However, I don't need spoon-feeding cosmicone Dec 2015 #135

It is seriously baffling to see people defending Reaganonmics in this thread. Matariki Dec 2015 #143

"Whatever It Takes" is the unofficial campaign slogan. arcane1 Dec 2015 #150

The Massachusetts Bay Colony made it illegal to feed indentured servants lobster Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #140

lobster used to be 'prison food'. Matariki Dec 2015 #152

Your "zero sum game" premise is plain wrong. thesquanderer Dec 2015 #145

Thank you for a well-thought-out post cosmicone Dec 2015 #151

42% is the sweet spot? I'm not sure everyone agrees... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #159

Hillary supporters: the new Tax Protesters and "Reagan Democrats". Romulox Dec 2015 #149

The economy designed by and for the billionaires IS a zero-sum game. OPfail. Orsino Dec 2015 #153

When will we DARE TO QUESTION ECONOMIC GROWTH Ron Green Dec 2015 #165