Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

2016 Postmortem

Showing Original Post only (View all)

PoliticalMalcontent

(449 posts)
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:12 PM Dec 2015

Who should pick presidents? Party leadership or the people? [View all]

There has been a bit of contention with how Democratic leadership has fallen in line behind Hillary Clinton while shutting out Bernie Sanders on the democratic side.

On the Republican side party brokers are trying their best to make sure that Donald Trump is NOT the face of the party for years to come. Donald Trump has responded by threatening to run as an independent. Interestingly, Ben Carson has also blasted the RNC, threatening to leave the party.

The DNC and RNC are entirely different, yet their struggles are similar. Both Parties have their preferred candidates. Jeb Bush was supposed to be the guy. The people rebuked the party offer and went with Trump and Carson. The Republican party is now scrambling to prop up their next best choice.

Over on the DNC side Clinton has been protected via a lack of debates. Compare 2008 to 2016. In 2008 the Democrats had 26 scheduled debates. In 2016 the DNC scheduled ... Six? SIX lousy debates? You've got to be shitting me. And most of those debates are scheduled on days meant to leep viewership down (Saturdays, around holidays, against both football and baseball playoffs).

So the DNC clearly has their candidate and the RNC is working on finding an emergency candidate.

Shouldn't people be given as many opportunities as possible to learn about their candidates though? This is basically an interview process for possibly the most important job in the world. I find it shameful that so many party leaders were willing to make an endorsement before the 'interview process' of debates ever began. It undermines democracy when the party picks their candidate before the race has even started and frankly it makes me question their motives (backdoor deals, etc).

So... Who should pick presidents? Party leadership or the general voting public?

45 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I always count who has the most endorsements and vote accordingly, dont you? reformist2 Dec 2015 #1
Haha. No. But I believe it shows the party as unified with the goal of getting one person elected. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #3
hilllaryous! artislife Dec 2015 #39
LOL jwirr Dec 2015 #41
The Constitution says Electors--ay, that's the rub. merrily Dec 2015 #2
Just got an email from Democracy for America - I voted in their online poll. For Bernie. djean111 Dec 2015 #4
All three candidates are soliciting via the DFA poll. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #8
I will do as I please. Stop giving orders. djean111 Dec 2015 #11
You consistently post anti-democratic party thoughts all the time. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #13
Living here in Florida, and seeing DWS back her GOP buddies has given me a pretty good idea djean111 Dec 2015 #17
Jean, I've been reading posts here since '03. Check my profile. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #21
Currently, the party is oozing to the Right. You know that. djean111 Dec 2015 #24
I have lived in fla all my live and DWS is not stopping any liberals from doing anything FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #28
So the story that she supported to R candidates against jwirr Dec 2015 #42
It's a computer program for raising money upaloopa Dec 2015 #27
The Party is behaving in an "anti-Democratic Way". bvar22 Dec 2015 #31
They don't like it that you have a mind of your own. artislife Dec 2015 #40
if the rnc brokjers their convention DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #5
I do think the parliamentary system is superior to the US Constitution. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #37
Denial is not a river in Egypt upaloopa Dec 2015 #6
How do you explain why Bernie is leading in NH? Careful, now... reformist2 Dec 2015 #10
1.3 M (0.4% of the US population) is "some people"...just not a lot. brooklynite Dec 2015 #14
So we're going with the "deny the premise" option. Very well. We'll discuss this again in Feb. reformist2 Dec 2015 #16
Indeed we will...FWIW, I give him a 40% chance of winning NH... brooklynite Dec 2015 #19
Because it is small mostly White and next to Vermont upaloopa Dec 2015 #25
Well, America is mostly white. And "close to Vermont" implies something... reformist2 Dec 2015 #26
The Establishment Democrats- ruffburr Dec 2015 #7
12 step programs teach you not to "should on yourself" because it is messy randys1 Dec 2015 #9
I was under the impression we had Primary elections next year...were they cancelled? brooklynite Dec 2015 #12
My disappointment stems from so many endorsements coming before the first debate. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #15
Hmm... how could a US Senator know anything about another former US Senator and a former SOS??? brooklynite Dec 2015 #18
Bernie is not very popular in Washington upaloopa Dec 2015 #29
Obviously the people and so the person who wins the most primaries and caucuses book_worm Dec 2015 #20
Does the lack of debates compared to 2008 concern you? It does me, regardless of choice of candidate PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #22
20+ debates is too many. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #34
The People Angry Dragon Dec 2015 #23
First, the DNC committee and Chairperson should be selected by a Democrat and this has happened. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #30
More debates is better on principle. I want people to be informed regardless of who they choose. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #32
Yes, some would like to see a Clown Car, I do not see any reason to compete with Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #35
You're right. We should just fall in line and vote Hillary because she was chosen by party leaders. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #36
No, she is running as a candidate in the DNC and if she gets the major amount of Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #43
Your question is more properly, "Who should pick party nominees?" BlueCheese Dec 2015 #33
Duly noted. PoliticalMalcontent Dec 2015 #38
Me. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #44
Scoop Jackson and Jeane Kirkpatrick's faction of the Dems started out in 1972 after they said that MisterP Dec 2015 #45
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Who should pick president...»Reply #0