2016 Postmortem

gordyfl

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118. The Media

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:10 PM

Dec 2015

No one knows who would have won the election. But the media did a hatchet job on Dean. Expect them to do the same with Bernie.

Isn't it ironic, John Kerry the pragmatist, won the nomination, then lost to Bush in the General Election.

Here's an "opinion" from a journalist...

"Through the medium of television, Dean's speech exhibited a man seemingly out of control," said the journal. "His voice and energy level rising higher and higher, he seemed to shift from intense to borderline manic, finally reaching the peak of a crescendo in what sounded like an inappropriately enthusiastic scream."

And, the journal added, the result was media ridicule that killed his presidential chances.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/howard-deans-scream-tv-screwed-him/article/2515137

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Bernie Sanders Calls Out The Biased Corporate Network News For Blacking Out His Message [View all] Live and Learn Dec 2015 OP

Good, put them on the spot! DJ13 Dec 2015 #1

There are 3 or 4 republicans on media rotation on any given day nc4bo Dec 2015 #2

It is hardly a coincidence. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #58

We listened to Washington Week In Review last night Plucketeer Dec 2015 #68

If they don't treat the candidates equally every word they speak should be suspect. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #77

Yep, that's what can happen with monopolies. Duval Dec 2015 #71

They® had a long term plan in ending the Fairness Doctrine. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #76

I know, right lobodons Dec 2015 #80

<insert words> on what you THOUGHT you were trying to say. It makes no sense, not even clever. nc4bo Dec 2015 #82

Yep. 99Forever Dec 2015 #3

Bernie needs to continue what he has been doing= Making news, introducing bills to help people, and Vincardog Dec 2015 #4

When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Dec 2015 #5

Whining does not become a Presidential candidate... brooklynite Dec 2015 #6

There is a difference between whining and facts Left Coast2020 Dec 2015 #7

Freedom of Speech and Mutual Respect does become a Presidential candidate. DhhD Dec 2015 #9

So tell Hillary to cut it out, then. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #10

Care to elaborate? brooklynite Dec 2015 #11

Not at all. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #13

Hillary has the corporate media parent companies donating to her campaign AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #20

Hillary has complained and complained. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #66

'Bout as spot on as it can be put madokie Dec 2015 #110

Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #114

Says the supporter of Ms. Flip Flop. tecelote Dec 2015 #12

I don't see any Clinton coverage either, but I also don't see her boo-hooing about it. MADem Dec 2015 #28

Yeah well the continual attention to the Republicans ibegurpard Dec 2015 #44

"Trump's Muslim ban idea pushes GOP toward chaos" brooklynite Dec 2015 #48

But....but....but....!!! They SAID his NAME!!! MADem Dec 2015 #52

I wondered how far down I would have to scroll before I found somebody pangaia Dec 2015 #78

Is Hill still dodging those Bosnian bullets?... paleotn Dec 2015 #84

KnR! nt retrowire Dec 2015 #8

And then there's this... PoiBoy Dec 2015 #14

Yep. Public airwaves no longer. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #15

petition: "Tell Corporate News Networks to Start Covering Bernie" Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #16

Done. Thanks. You should post in the Bernie Group too. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #18

I did. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #31

Done and kicked in some additional dollars, thx. nt slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #54

Done! Thanks, Eric J Duval Dec 2015 #74

You're welcome. (NT) Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #75

append a note to your cable cancellation reddread Dec 2015 #119

Not to worry, Bernie! The INTERWEBS has your back! MILLIONS, UPON MILLIONS of us! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #17

MSM vs internet is why I believe there is a huge split between young and old in this primary. RichVRichV Dec 2015 #70

In which case this complaint is unnecessary... brooklynite Dec 2015 #79

But what fun is it to not complain? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #91

And I thought DWS was bad. jalan48 Dec 2015 #19

She is. lol Doesn't seem to matter what they do though. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #21

I don't think so-that's why his statement about the media coverage. jalan48 Dec 2015 #22

Well, I know at least in my area that Bernie supporters campaign at nearly every public event held. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #25

I agree on that level. But there are entire areas of the country that know little of him. jalan48 Dec 2015 #30

His message is excellent, but more people need to see and hear it. senz Dec 2015 #24

Agreed. And they are supposed to give equal coverage. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #26

Bernie and DWS have teamed up. MADem Dec 2015 #32

Oh yeah-teamed up on the number of debates have they? jalan48 Dec 2015 #33

They're making money together. Did you even click on the link? MADem Dec 2015 #37

Like I said, conservative Democrats and Republicans want to limit Bernie's message. jalan48 Dec 2015 #39

No, they don't. He's just not making "news." MADem Dec 2015 #42

Newsworthy? He's a major candidate for President. jalan48 Dec 2015 #43

Who says the same thing over and over and over again. He hasn't made any news, so why should he be MADem Dec 2015 #45

So someone running for President has to say new stuff every day to be on TV? jalan48 Dec 2015 #49

Yes, pretty much. MADem Dec 2015 #50

I think elections should be more than a reality TV show. jalan48 Dec 2015 #53

It's not a "reality tv show" when a candidate says something MADem Dec 2015 #56

Hillary doesn't WANT to be on tv getting interviewed, she has to be scripted. When she tries peacebird Dec 2015 #104

Every time I see her on TV, she comes off great! MADem Dec 2015 #109

You think "we came, we saw, he died" is coming off 'great', cool. Enjoy. peacebird Dec 2015 #111

Awww, if the things she says upsets you, you really shouldn't vote for her. MADem Dec 2015 #112

No worries, I never will. peacebird Dec 2015 #113

I suspect there is a money problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #92

He's going to need more of that "Nurses United for Patient Protection" MADem Dec 2015 #96

Bernie teamed up with the DNC, not DWS! Duval Dec 2015 #72

Pssst--hate to tell you this, but you might want to check and see who is RUNNING the DNC MADem Dec 2015 #97

Bravo! An honest, assertive approach to what is clearly media bias. senz Dec 2015 #23

Every campaign there's some candidate complaining that he/she isn't getting enough coverage George II Dec 2015 #27

The statistics don't lie. Aren't Hillary supporters constantly saying JDPriestly Dec 2015 #40

That's because trump is,saying some ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #93

K&R. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #29

He is quite the button pusher for his applause lines, R B Garr Dec 2015 #34

Isn't he on the sunday news shows every week? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #35

He makes the rounds--I don't think he's missed a show. nt MADem Dec 2015 #38

The numbers are for prime-time news shows. They get the most JDPriestly Dec 2015 #41

Oh, please. The man is a United States Senator R B Garr Dec 2015 #46

Do you doubt that if Bernie were leading, nationally ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #94

CM is corrupt. Big time. SmittynMo Dec 2015 #36

There's another question they ignore at their peril. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #83

Corporate Media Takes Care of Their Corporate Sponsors gordyfl Dec 2015 #87

How about the History Channel jdadd Dec 2015 #47

. RandySF Dec 2015 #51

Oh, grow up. libdem4life Dec 2015 #64

Seems like every week there is a new whine leftofcool Dec 2015 #67

K/R Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #55

The corporate media always blacks out the liberal message jfern Dec 2015 #57

Let's Talk... MSNBC... The Hillary Channel... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #59

. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #60

Bookmarked for later viewing. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #61

Bernie has done a pretty good job fund raising. comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #62

K&R! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #63

K&R. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #65

Well, I'm also a threat to Corporate Media. Duval Dec 2015 #69

It's the hair!!! Sancho Dec 2015 #73

They certainly aren't doing our democracy any favors, as the founders expected/intended. Nt JudyM Dec 2015 #81

He's just not interesting enough to cover. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #85

McLaughlin Group Ignores Bernie Sanders gordyfl Dec 2015 #86

It was the network news media that killed the campaign of the last guy from Vermont ... staggerleem Dec 2015 #88

Of course, by the time of the scream, he'd already lost... brooklynite Dec 2015 #90

The Scream That Doomed Dean... gordyfl Dec 2015 #99

Dean Scream gordyfl Dec 2015 #100

You are claiming therefore that absent the "Scream" he would have won New Hampshire? brooklynite Dec 2015 #107

That's Just Your "Opinion" gordyfl Dec 2015 #115

It was a good enough opinion to be interviewed by the ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS... brooklynite Dec 2015 #116

The Media gordyfl Dec 2015 #118

No - I'm saying he had a CHANCE before the fabricated scream, and NONE afterwards. /nt staggerleem Dec 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author gordyfl Dec 2015 #101

Iowa hasn't been the bellweather for the past several cycles. staggerleem Dec 2015 #121

No - he didn't brooklynite Dec 2015 #123

Blown Way Out of Proportion. gordyfl Dec 2015 #98

Kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #89

kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #95

Bernie Sanders is just boring as hell and charisma-less moobu2 Dec 2015 #102

I noticed the smell when I walked in the room reddread Dec 2015 #103

If he does show up on our TV, we immediately turn it off. leftofcool Dec 2015 #105

We just turn the channel if Bernie's on. moobu2 Dec 2015 #108

Hillary Gets More Media Coverage gordyfl Dec 2015 #106

20,000 people went to see Bernie Sanders in Boston in October. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #120

The Howard Dean Scream gordyfl Dec 2015 #117