2016 Postmortem

cali

(114,904 posts) Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:55 AM Dec 2015

I don't see a path to the nomination for anyone not named Hillary Clinton [View all]

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Does that mean I can settle in comfortably as a Clinton supporter? No. Lord knows I've tried to see her positive attributes. Nor do I think that Bernie's campaign has been pointless. He may well have started a movement or more precisely, coalesced one and he has definitely pushed Hillary, albeit phony and temporary, to the left. Good luck holding her to her vague progressive positions if she is elected president- something that is not a sure thing.

I wish I had an iota of trust in her but I have never trusted a dem politician less, with the possible exception of Joe Lieberman.

It is what it is. But there's nothing irrational in my distrust of Hillary. She earned it. Over and over Andover.

That she's better than the appallingly bad repukes is cold comfort for those of us who believe she represents a sick and well entrenched status quo.

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I don't see a path to the nomination for anyone not named Hillary Clinton [View all] cali Dec 2015 OP

Of this I am certain. Some years from now upaloopa Dec 2015 #1

If she's elected president, I hope you're right, but I doubt it cali Dec 2015 #2

+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #53

Yes that's probably true for me el_bryanto Dec 2015 #4

Yes, I'm sure she'll manage to be worse than I expect. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #9

That's my situation with Obama. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #45

I think Obama has improved a lot in his second term. Vattel Dec 2015 #78

I agree that he's improved. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #84

How? You still think they will find WMD's? n/t Dawgs Dec 2015 #29

Well, I misjudged her husband Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #52

+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #76

It will really depend on which "Hillary Clinton" we get, won't it. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #55

Miss judged he! She voted for the invasion of Iraq! Millions of innocent people got killed akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #58

The only thing Mrs. Clinton wants is to be the next President of the US! akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #59

You cannot even VOTE in the U.S. election, and yet you are suggesting that Americans DON'T vote for still_one Dec 2015 #62

Really Cali? demwing Dec 2015 #3

I'm with demwing. Things are looking better everyday for a Bernie Sanders presidency. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #6

Our media is what's broken. When a candidate like Bernie struggles to get notice from the MSM and a Autumn Dec 2015 #12

Im not sure he will pull it off either, but I am sure of one thing demwing Dec 2015 #16

Not about to give up. No way. Autumn Dec 2015 #19

Well, I am... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #49

Yep, count me in there too. The people love him and you can see it in the streets. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #50

Point taken, changed "not sure if he can pull it off" demwing Dec 2015 #61

"Polls look good"? George II Dec 2015 #43

Don't give up, Cali. At least not until Bernie concedes, if he ever does. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #5

March 2, 2016. Mark the date. MineralMan Dec 2015 #67

That is the conventional wisdom. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #85

Well, we'll find out. MineralMan Dec 2015 #86

She may win the nomination. She won't win the White House. Autumn Dec 2015 #7

She won't win the WH and life won't change... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #30

Yep. Democrats are 'meh' about her and everyone else thinks she's a dishonest liar. Dawgs Dec 2015 #32

If it's Rubio she is Puglover Dec 2015 #91

The republicans I know are saying that it will be Rubio. The republican party knows that they don't Autumn Dec 2015 #92

Don't mourn, organize! kenfrequed Dec 2015 #8

I agree. MN for Bernie called me last night to ask if I could jwirr Dec 2015 #37

Same here kenfrequed Dec 2015 #38

That would be fun. I am suggesting that if they can get the jwirr Dec 2015 #39

TPTB have decided who the anointed one will be. Once again the people will lose. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #10

Maybe, maybe not, but I'm still campaigning for Bernie. Scuba Dec 2015 #11

Hell yes! All the way Autumn Dec 2015 #13

Don't give up! Ino Dec 2015 #14

The lesser of two evils could well lose us the GE. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #15

Her stance on war and International relations... peace13 Dec 2015 #17

"I don't see a path to the nomination for anyone not named Hillary Clinton" NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18

I think she's run a campaign riddled with dishonesty and overflowing with bullshit. cali Dec 2015 #21

"And I think she's a piss poor ge candidate and a lousy campaigner" NCTraveler Dec 2015 #22

What nonsense. Sanders is an outsider. She is the ultimate insider cali Dec 2015 #23

Nice deflection. lol. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #24

It's even more laughable for a person to claim "Bernie has the media going after Clinton" Autumn Dec 2015 #34

Outsider? In Congress for 1/4 century redstateblues Dec 2015 #51

Who has more endorsements from the political establishment? Fumesucker Dec 2015 #54

Like she means it, huh? senz Dec 2015 #47

Yup. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #60

She's talking NOW, when she needs Dem votes senz Dec 2015 #64

She mght have been SOS since then. lol. The things people gloss over when they try too hard. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #66

SOS is unrelated to what we're talking about. senz Dec 2015 #87

We'll have to see how Iowa and New Hampshire unfold, but there can be no doubt that Sanders' path is Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #20

with her latest terrorism cheerleading ibegurpard Dec 2015 #25

Unrec. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #26

+1 nt DirtyHippyBastard Dec 2015 #33

Morals? MineralMan Dec 2015 #68

Ty for correcting my spelling. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #69

It's not a spelling error. It is an error in word choices. MineralMan Dec 2015 #70

How are your neighbors doing? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #73

I have no idea what you are talking about. MineralMan Dec 2015 #74

Ok, it was someone else. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #75

Again, I have no clue what you're talking about. MineralMan Dec 2015 #77

I explained that it was someone else. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #80

Self-delete, then. MineralMan Dec 2015 #81

Why? I asked an innocent question, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #82

Here are some bunnies! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #83

lol, an adorable response senz Dec 2015 #89

Obviously she meant "morale." Obviously. senz Dec 2015 #88

No point in giving up now! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #27

Sanders could conceivably be nominated. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #28

Very good comment. Well said. senz Dec 2015 #48

Well..... thanx. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #63

It was well deserved senz Dec 2015 #65

that's precisely why we're making a path of our own MisterP Dec 2015 #31

Same old 30%ish Walk away Dec 2015 #41

Might want to stretch that out a bit... brooklynite Dec 2015 #72

Whats up with the hit and run thread? /nt demwing Dec 2015 #35

It's not. cali Dec 2015 #36

She is not getting my vote PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #40

I do ibegurpard Dec 2015 #42

as of this moment - she is certainly the most likely to win the nomination Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #44

I disagree ibegurpard Dec 2015 #46

I wanted to agree with you but not now! President Obama will support Hilary Clinton just like he akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #57

Cali Mrs. Clinton will be the nominee! akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #56

The office changes the person. None of us know what kind of a President she will be. randome Dec 2015 #71

I agree that the team is important but I don't think the office fundamentally changes a person cali Dec 2015 #79

All reality based people agree with the title of this post. Alfresco Dec 2015 #90