2016 Postmortem

hack89

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22. We will see

Reply to Fawke Em (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:13 PM

Dec 2015

I suspect that they will figure it out - too much money involved.

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I know the DU is only a petri dish in the big picture but [View all] retrowire Dec 2015 OP

hahahahaha....a Clinton Supporter Nontroversy! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #1

Sure. After all, mainstream voters typically chat with friends Hortensis Dec 2015 #99

They are too busy UglyGreed Dec 2015 #2

I think soon after the elections are over, you pro-Hillary guys won't be seen on DU again Cal33 Dec 2015 #5

There are an awful lot of accounts that were idle between 2008 and now. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #9

What election is that? upaloopa Dec 2015 #11

Good to hear!!! UglyGreed Dec 2015 #44

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #46

Childish 40RatRod Dec 2015 #62

+1 peacebird Dec 2015 #152

Yes, too busy not putting on bumper stickers, not Tweeting, not talking on Facebook... reformist2 Dec 2015 #115

Maybe her greatness UglyGreed Dec 2015 #126

Think about it: what is there to be enthusiastic about? senz Dec 2015 #128

it doesnt match up! retrowire Dec 2015 #147

The vast,vast majority of voters don't do any sufrommich Dec 2015 #3

Here is your "not much effort" upaloopa Dec 2015 #15

I think most Hillary voters think she'll win the primary. sufrommich Dec 2015 #20

Of fucking course they do....as anyone VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #114

Paid operatives. wilsonbooks Dec 2015 #130

Exactly. She has WallStreet, Bernie has Main street. There arr more voters than bankers! peacebird Dec 2015 #153

Certainly that copy and paste wasn't much effort at all! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #155

It was no effort at all upaloopa Dec 2015 #158

Clinton cannot defeat the RepubliCONs RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #159

It is pretty presumptuous of you to think you can speak upaloopa Dec 2015 #160

I know and work with MANY of them. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #161

I am married to one. upaloopa Dec 2015 #162

Why that is HassleCat Dec 2015 #4

Polls are always to be taken with a grain of salt, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #6

Grass roots types like Senator Sanders. They view him as the real deal. demmiblue Dec 2015 #7

I don't get the love of on line polls by upaloopa Dec 2015 #8

I suspect Bernie's mass rallies have stopped because sufrommich Dec 2015 #16

it's actually because he's stopped hosting them retrowire Dec 2015 #38

Why did he stop hosting them? nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #41

Because no matter how popular you are, you can't pull crowds that size non-stop Kentonio Dec 2015 #56

Bingo! Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #60

it's believed to be apart of his budget strategy. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #59

They aren't meaningless. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #19

Agreed. tecelote Dec 2015 #52

The difference between online polls and statistical sample is this: Bubzer Dec 2015 #40

Online polls are very easy to manipulate hack89 Dec 2015 #61

Well, if one side votes and the otherside does not, it non-voters as not being energized. Bubzer Dec 2015 #64

No hack89 Dec 2015 #68

Your argument is a non sequiter...I didn't say that all likly voters participated in the online vote Bubzer Dec 2015 #71

But not voting in on line polls says nothing about voter enthusiasm either. nt hack89 Dec 2015 #73

You're wrong about that. Enthusiasm breeds participation. There's a VERY strong connection there. Bubzer Dec 2015 #75

You would have to provide some studies on that hack89 Dec 2015 #79

You still seem to be operating under your non sequiter... Try this; Bubzer Dec 2015 #119

It is your conclusions about those that do not participate in online polls I question hack89 Dec 2015 #123

I understand. I disagree. Bubzer Dec 2015 #127

You have never studied statistics upaloopa Dec 2015 #81

Yes a scientific poll is an educated guess. Anyone claiming otherwise is selling somthing. Bubzer Dec 2015 #106

I use to tutor statistics upaloopa Dec 2015 #107

Bully for you! Statistical theory is a great field of study. But, your still wrong. Bubzer Dec 2015 #112

You "use" to? senz Dec 2015 #132

I wasn't going to say anything. Bubzer Dec 2015 #134

I normally don't either senz Dec 2015 #138

May it stay that way! Bubzer Dec 2015 #139

I was taught this in statistics class a long time ago. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #157

You don't know what people have and have not studied. senz Dec 2015 #129

About those land-line polls passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #51

Give me a freaking break. Phlem Dec 2015 #78

I clicked online for Kerry over a thousand times redstateblues Dec 2015 #109

Not statistical samples... RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #156

Stop with the critical thinking, citizen! She is winning and it is your duty to vote for her! (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #10

So the polling companies don't know what they are doing hack89 Dec 2015 #12

Yes - since you asked. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #21

We will see hack89 Dec 2015 #22

wow, I think that information is out of date. corkhead Dec 2015 #26

We have a landline, but it is really Skype. And we screen calls automatically so that if the JDPriestly Dec 2015 #67

We screen all of our calls. If we don't know someone, the phone probably will not even ring JDPriestly Dec 2015 #63

Given that the poll results vary by 10-15 points, I *would* say that a lot of them must be wrong! reformist2 Dec 2015 #116

That's why I go to 528 to get the lowdown on what polls are good ones. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #125

Her rallies were small compared to Obama's firebrand80 Dec 2015 #13

Obama ALSO had better poll numbers than Sanders. wildeyed Dec 2015 #65

Supporters of an underdog always have to be more active than MineralMan Dec 2015 #14

Oh stop, you're talking reality and sense again. Hekate Dec 2015 #17

I just can't help myself, for some reason. MineralMan Dec 2015 #18

Four months! You must look like a wild man! Nay Dec 2015 #28

On another website which I will not mention, MineralMan Dec 2015 #32

Thank you, MM Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #25

this is a good answer thank you. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #37

"DU is Confirmation-bias Central" Number23 Dec 2015 #53

Thanks very much for your comment! MineralMan Dec 2015 #54

Your in the ballpark angrychair Dec 2015 #111

People vote or they do not. MineralMan Dec 2015 #120

If only MM angrychair Dec 2015 #121

I still manage to register some new voters in MineralMan Dec 2015 #122

I agree angrychair Dec 2015 #124

on my ignore list corkhead Dec 2015 #23

Rally #'s show a Bernie peak. Agschmid Dec 2015 #24

That only makes any sense if he was holding rallies and not filling them.. Kentonio Dec 2015 #57

I'm right here. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #27

I'd say your analogy is flawed... brooklynite Dec 2015 #29

Against, nobody has said "inevitable" or "landslide" brooklynite Dec 2015 #30

Hillary supporters can't multitask? retrowire Dec 2015 #36

No, more the "this is a waste of time" idea... brooklynite Dec 2015 #39

yep retrowire Dec 2015 #43

I see - "do something pointless; it'll only take a minute" brooklynite Dec 2015 #47

Working. Like I am right now. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #31

so Hillary supporters cant multitask? retrowire Dec 2015 #35

HRC supporters NOT bothering with on-line polls ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #133

Well time will tell won't it? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #33

Here's one SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #34

Confirmation bias? wildeyed Dec 2015 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #45

DU is fun. MineralMan Dec 2015 #48

DU does not reflect the Democratic Party or the real world Gothmog Dec 2015 #49

I just got off a lawyers for Hillary call Gothmog Dec 2015 #50

But that was a call with real people, actually engaged with the campaign brooklynite Dec 2015 #74

I have already been working with people on the legal team Gothmog Dec 2015 #76

My annoyance with things like this is that they usually insist that you BE a lawyer... brooklynite Dec 2015 #80

Actually, I love non-lawyers and others to be poll watchers Gothmog Dec 2015 #82

I have no desire to login with my facebook, twitter, or email giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #55

Everyone I know is a Sanders supporter Prism Dec 2015 #58

see post #110 redstateblues Dec 2015 #113

No, I know Prism Dec 2015 #117

they're saying the Sandersonians are too mean so they're all leaving DU MisterP Dec 2015 #66

I've thought and argued that the 3rdway types stupidicus Dec 2015 #69

I hope he does get DFA's endorsement. Duval Dec 2015 #70

Here rtracey Dec 2015 #72

The Sanders progressive purity patrol taught_me_patience Dec 2015 #77

Just like the Hillary moderate purity patrol. senz Dec 2015 #135

I work two jobs. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #83

"But it's more accessible than phone polls." NCTraveler Dec 2015 #84

easy. retrowire Dec 2015 #85

A little deeper. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #86

nope, that's as deep as it gets. retrowire Dec 2015 #87

LOL.....so that means what exactly? Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #89

it means what it says LOL. retrowire Dec 2015 #92

"the internet is more accessible than landing on a call list and receiving a phone call" Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #95

whooshed over your head apparently. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #97

You fail to understand the significance of a random sample. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #98

really? retrowire Dec 2015 #101

Then the problem seems to be your understanding of statistics. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #94

annnd Hillary isn't getting the same kind of support because??? retrowire Dec 2015 #96

Because many of her supporters aren't as... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #100

this is true. retrowire Dec 2015 #102

See post 94. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #103

See post 101. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #104

I suspect DFA will not release the numbers. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #88

well they'll still endorse the majority leader. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #90

Maybe. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #91

yeah i noticed that. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #93

Clinton suffers from a huge enthusiasm gap. This might bite her in the ass in Iowa. Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #105

I have warned Hillary supporters of complacency retrowire Dec 2015 #108

Crazy! Everyone I knew at the time enthusiastically voted for McGovern redstateblues Dec 2015 #110

So the Democrats should have nominated Maggie Thatcher to run against Nixon? Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #118

It's nothing but in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #131

And, I just noticed something huge.... retrowire Dec 2015 #137

The buzz all over the internet, Facebook, and Twitter is for Bernie, not Hillary. senz Dec 2015 #136

And when Republican online polls match their pundit polls... retrowire Dec 2015 #140

Exactly. Bernie owns the Internet, SO in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #142

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #141

The similarities are because ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #143

but clearly republicans arent the underdogs retrowire Dec 2015 #144

Actually, the Republicans *are* the underdogs. Clearly. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #145

oh boy retrowire Dec 2015 #146

They're both longshot underdogs. Neither one will become president. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #148

it explains why she's doing so well in pundit polls retrowire Dec 2015 #149

I guess you haven't seen all her union endorsements ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #150

endorsements aren't votes retrowire Dec 2015 #151

Neither are online polls. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #154

Because MadDAsHell Dec 2015 #163

it's not embarrassing retrowire Dec 2015 #164

I know very few supporters of any of the DEM candidates, IRL bigwillq Dec 2015 #165