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jeff47

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19. Accurately quoting Clinton or accurately stating her history is not a smear.

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Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:43 PM

Dec 2015

Even when that quote or history does not make Clinton look good.

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Can someone please explain to me the difference between: [View all] Cary Dec 2015 OP

IMO, she is one of them. Hepburn Dec 2015 #1

That's not an answer to my question. n/t Cary Dec 2015 #2

I believe it is. Hepburn Dec 2015 #5

bullshit VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #9

Her poll numbers show nothing more than people recognize the name. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #17

"She is hated" is not a fact, as pointed out to you by others Cary Dec 2015 #36

Your game.... daleanime Dec 2015 #152

Do you ever say anything other than BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #137

I realize that you are deeply invested in this cultish thinking Cary Dec 2015 #159

I'll elaborate Cary Dec 2015 #3

OK...fine... Hepburn Dec 2015 #10

when are you going to start? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #11

What part of "It's NOT a smear to tell the truth" did you not understand? nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #26

Still not an answer. Cary Dec 2015 #37

Guess you don't get it. Hepburn Dec 2015 #53

I don't think so. Cary Dec 2015 #56

The former is bs; whereas, the latter is ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #4

I feel for the OP, the sad thing about all this is actual liberals are scared to death randys1 Dec 2015 #16

You are EXACTLY right! Bernie supporters here R B Garr Dec 2015 #42

Ha! Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #104

None... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #6

+1 Skidmore Dec 2015 #22

Thank you. A simple answer to a simple question. Cary Dec 2015 #38

If that's "all you've heard"... 99Forever Dec 2015 #7

Please define "smear" for me notadmblnd Dec 2015 #8

Anything short of blind devotion. Scuba Dec 2015 #13

That's pretty much what I was thinking. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #15

Here's your answer. Everything posted about upaloopa Dec 2015 #29

I hope you were looking in a mirror as you typed that. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #32

Is this a serious response? This is what is actually believed? n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #66

Speaking for myself not belief but known upaloopa Dec 2015 #68

No, I think a smear is something designed to make someone look bad without any particular relevance Cary Dec 2015 #39

No one can make someone else look bad notadmblnd Dec 2015 #41

Nice philosophy but not true. Cary Dec 2015 #51

Those were lies, and no, they did not make Kerry look bad notadmblnd Dec 2015 #64

The conservative smears are smears. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #12

Nobody on the left would ever criticize Hillary in respect to running for WH without including randys1 Dec 2015 #18

So I'm confused. Are you saying that Clinton is not allowed to be criticized The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #20

You know exactly what I mean, you have seen the hundreds, possibly thousands of not posts randys1 Dec 2015 #25

Half truths, sure. And thanks for the thoughtful answer. Cary Dec 2015 #40

Poll numbers. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #14

Accurately quoting Clinton or accurately stating her history is not a smear. jeff47 Dec 2015 #19

You forgot to put quotation marks around "liberal" in your second option. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #21

I don't see why I need quotations around the word liberal Cary Dec 2015 #43

How do you define a conservative smear? Your question cannot be answered with that definition. arcane1 Dec 2015 #23

Are you equating criticism with smears? Ino Dec 2015 #24

I guess this means you can't answer the simple question. Cary Dec 2015 #44

Geez, I can't keep up with your non sequiturs... Ino Dec 2015 #69

Yes, yes. Cary Dec 2015 #70

#2 isn't really liberals, they are either... giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #27

Or they are true Liberals UglyGreed Dec 2015 #31

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #33

HMMM UglyGreed Dec 2015 #34

& let's say ppl that constantly bitch about everything democrats giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #92

Been here since UglyGreed Dec 2015 #97

Textbook example of a smear right there. frylock Dec 2015 #87

Oooh, because we must like everyone right? giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #90

You made very specific accusations that have no basis in reality. frylock Dec 2015 #94

Oh, you're talking about my initial post. giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #95

Have a lovely day. frylock Dec 2015 #96

Still I'm giving them the benefit of that doubt, for the purpose of my questions Cary Dec 2015 #45

Lol, what's that? That it's the big bad democrats fault? giftedgirl77 Dec 2015 #93

The difference: It's called a PRIMARY Election, to elect a party nominee. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #28

sure... HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #30

"liberal" v. "conservative" is so '90's tularetom Dec 2015 #35

That's funny. Could you tell this to the radical righties? Cary Dec 2015 #47

Because attacking Hillary from the left is a conservative smear. Broward Dec 2015 #46

Hmmm. Cary Dec 2015 #48

Because the Bernie supporters have made this R B Garr Dec 2015 #49

Thanks. Cary Dec 2015 #54

Understandable, but not worth it as you can see R B Garr Dec 2015 #156

Very, very familiar Cary Dec 2015 #160

What's a "conservative" smear? demwing Dec 2015 #50

There is an old saying in my business... Cary Dec 2015 #52

Wow, what a failure demwing Dec 2015 #57

Yep...totally agree and thank you Admin for the Ignore feature! n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #59

No. I'm looking for honest answers. Cary Dec 2015 #62

If you are looking for honest answers you should ask honest questions. Kalidurga Dec 2015 #154

Exactly. They are a waste of time. n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #80

"if you're explaining, you're losing" - isn't that a Ronald Reagan quote? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #58

Nope. Trial lawyers. n/t Cary Dec 2015 #61

Google puts it in reagan's mouth. Oh well, either way it's a con artist strategy Scootaloo Dec 2015 #65

It has nothing to do with a con. Cary Dec 2015 #74

And if you Google properly you will find more. n/t Cary Dec 2015 #75

Your argument supposes all criticism of Clinton to be "conservative smears." Scootaloo Dec 2015 #55

Except I didn't make an argument. I asked a question. Cary Dec 2015 #60

You made a positive assertion and misused a question mark Scootaloo Dec 2015 #63

Amazing Cary Dec 2015 #72

They are not, they are the mirror image of each other. Beacool Dec 2015 #67

and yet, here you are demwing Dec 2015 #105

Well, someone other than Sanders' supporters better be here. Beacool Dec 2015 #145

The vast majority of liberal criticism of Hillary is fRom a liberal pov cali Dec 2015 #71

Believe it or not I wasn't trying to provoke anyone here. Cary Dec 2015 #73

Wait. You think my post was hostile? Wow. It was completely respectful. cali Dec 2015 #77

No. I said clearly your post was thoughtful and thanked you. Cary Dec 2015 #79

I am trying to discuss something with you. Cary Dec 2015 #81

Oh please, the criticism of Hillary here is nothing compared to the nasty smears against Bernie. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #76

Ok, but am I guilty of this? Cary Dec 2015 #78

So it's okay for you to smear all of us without proof but you don't want to be associated with them? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #86

I have no idea what you think you're talking about Cary Dec 2015 #88

"Go find someone else to troll." Funny, that's what we've been telling you. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #89

I haven't seen an elbow drop like that since Wrestlemania III - well done! nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #98

LOL! Complaining about the response to their op? Priceless! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #99

??? Cary Dec 2015 #110

"What on earth are you babbling about?"* We're asking you the same thing. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #111

Whatever. Cary Dec 2015 #115

'in there with you in that head?'* You're the one talking to yourself. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #116

is that right? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #118

Yes, chamomile is good although my mom used to make a nice mint tea. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #119

You don't say? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #120

I do say! :) beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #121

is that right? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #122

mmm hmmmm beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #123

You don't say? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #126

lol wendylaroux Dec 2015 #166

lol Dem2 Dec 2015 #167

Well done? Cary Dec 2015 #168

You said it Dem2 Dec 2015 #169

Yes, an exercise in stupidity Cary Dec 2015 #170

OUTSTANDING! merrily Dec 2015 #107

Thank you, merrily! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #127

is that right? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #128

Reading through this mess of a thread Trajan Dec 2015 #82

^^this demwing Dec 2015 #83

So what? Cary Dec 2015 #85

you had you chance at civil discourse with me demwing Dec 2015 #103

liar, there was never any such chance Cary Dec 2015 #108

You're accusing yourself of 'trolling' your own thread now? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #112

Whatever. Cary Dec 2015 #113

"Get a life" Maybe you should take your own advice? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #114

You don't say? n/t Cary Dec 2015 #124

I was going to alert on that Mnpaul Dec 2015 #148

Maybe they should alert on themselves! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #149

Good idea Mnpaul Dec 2015 #150

Someone already alerted on one of my posts where all I did was repeat the op's own words. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #151

I guess that is the last refuge when you are losing Mnpaul Dec 2015 #153

'Go find someone else to troll' = asking a question in good faith* beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #155

This is the very first of these particular pissing matches that I have been sucked into Cary Dec 2015 #161

Project much? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #162

Dude. I have to keep reminding you that you came to me. Cary Dec 2015 #164

Yes, and check the post count on that one R B Garr Dec 2015 #174

I can't see your post count on this interface Cary Dec 2015 #175

Oh good grief. Cary Dec 2015 #84

If you can't figure that one out on your own, there's no use explaining the difference Armstead Dec 2015 #91

Or not. Cary Dec 2015 #102

Liberals are smearing Hillary Clinton with "conservative" smears? Autumn Dec 2015 #100

As of this post: 1454 views, 108 replies, 4 recs merrily Dec 2015 #109

I believe I have the record. Cary Dec 2015 #117

If someone at DU has policy differences with the Clinton Campaign and expresses them here, guillaumeb Dec 2015 #101

Is that ALL that ever happens? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #131

Sure. Here's an example. HassleCat Dec 2015 #106

That is NOT an example of the smears and vitriol VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #132

I can't figure out what you mean HassleCat Dec 2015 #171

Sure you can VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #172

I think I get it, but I also think you're wrong. HassleCat Dec 2015 #173

Please give examples of these "smears". Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #125

It's all crap. Cary Dec 2015 #130

Sorry you feel that way, but your OP was very broad in scope. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #136

I'm sorry I feel this way too. Cary Dec 2015 #138

I think your OP was in error Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #139

That doesn't excuse the response. n/t Cary Dec 2015 #140

Well, your OP was offensive. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #142

There was nothing wrong with my question. Cary Dec 2015 #143

Or don't answer. That too is always a civil option. Cary Dec 2015 #144

how about the e-mails? Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #134

No, he said he was tired of hearing about those damned emails. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #135

Big picture people dont see the differences between Bernie and HIllary and exploit randys1 Dec 2015 #129

Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #133

I don't care about personalities. I care about policies. n/t Cary Dec 2015 #141

I care about policies. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #146

And I've seen this movie before... Cary Dec 2015 #147

One of the funniest threads I've seen here Kentonio Dec 2015 #157

I posted a video of her speech from CSPAN and was accused of editing it. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #158

I don't know anything about that. Cary Dec 2015 #165

There's nothing to explain Rebkeh Dec 2015 #163