2016 Postmortem

Spitfire of ATJ

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85. I know Hillary's talking point failed miserably....

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:46 PM

Dec 2015

They were originally calling it the largest tax hike on the middle class in history at one point.

BTW: That figure of a quarter million bucks a year has been floated for a LONG time. Hillary isn't the originator. She is stealing ideas from the Sanders platform, NOT the other way around. I normally wouldn't have a problem with stealing ideas but these are things she was against which makes it look like she is pandering but once in power she has ZERO intention of enacting any of these proposals.

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Beware of posters telling you Hillary will win [View all] peacebird Dec 2015 OP

The Democratic primary comes before the general election Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #1

It was in response to an OP titled "beware of posters telling you Bernie will win" peacebird Dec 2015 #3

Which was in response to an OP saying beware of posters telling you Bernie wont win. Bubzer Dec 2015 #59

copy cat thread. redstateblues Dec 2015 #2

Copy cat? Response to a silly thread "beware of posters telling you Bernie will win" peacebird Dec 2015 #4

They did 4 times with FDR...n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #12

They kept saying Obama was a Socialist.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #20

An ex of mine with a PhD in 2007 said we'd never elect a black man or a woman Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #54

We would also not elect a Catholic for President...remember when? libdem4life Dec 2015 #58

In 1960 Old Codger Dec 2015 #69

This is a Copy Cat Post to a Copy Cat Post.. libdem4life Dec 2015 #55

Silly rabbit Android3.14 Dec 2015 #81

Then tell me how FDR got elected FOUR TIMES? n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #83

On the other hand, Republicans and moderates find socialists to be adorable... Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #5

Yeah,...we have to run THEIR choice. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #21

Did you by any chance read the OP? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #23

Republicans WANT to run against Hillary. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #40

Ok, well, it's settled. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #46

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #84

Indeed. kenfrequed Dec 2015 #94

Stealth. He didn't loudly proclaim his socialist principles. tblue37 Dec 2015 #97

Go for it. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #98

Yeah, they are reeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaly scary.... Beware..... lol. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #6

Almost as scary as the thought of 'we came, we saw, he died' as President... peacebird Dec 2015 #7

You post was a direct attack on "supporters." NCTraveler Dec 2015 #9

My OP was a direct copy of "beware of posters telling you Bernie will win" peacebird Dec 2015 #10

"My OP was a direct copy" NCTraveler Dec 2015 #11

+1 Agschmid Dec 2015 #14

because lets vote against supporting people retrowire Dec 2015 #65

Uh.. kenfrequed Dec 2015 #90

That and we lose the Youth Vote for a decade or more FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #8

Yep... peacebird Dec 2015 #17

Watching CSPAN coverage of hearings is a great cure for insomnia. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #22

The best thing for youth future is Hillary Clinton, she has a good agenda Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #38

You DO realize that whole "Bernie wants to raise taxes on the middle class" is bogus. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #49

You may should check to see what his latest proposal is, Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #57

I know you have a computer with access to the web... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #75

Then you know Sanders is following Hillary's proposal on taxing Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #80

I know Hillary's talking point failed miserably.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #85

Sanders is the one who was going to do away with the max cap, now he Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #88

LOL!! She didn't want to raise the cap AT ALL. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #92

Guess you do not understand the proposal very much. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #96

Actually, she was on board with REPUBLICAN proposals to CUT Social Security. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #99

Is this like Sanders be on board with republicans when voting for gun issues? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #100

Kinda, in that you just mentioned another false claim from the Hillary camp.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #103

Hummm, so now he has a F rating he used to have a D, guess the F came after he has started talking Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #107

Sorry, Bernie can't be painted as a poster boy for the NRA... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #109

He has his friends there and he voted for the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #111

I suppose next you'll agree with Hillary that banks were innocent.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #112

Uhm kenfrequed Dec 2015 #93

"Tax in large percentages...?" kenfrequed Dec 2015 #91

Already Old Codger Dec 2015 #70

Pretty hard for most Democrats FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #105

You're looking ahead, FreakinDJ, and I think Duval Dec 2015 #104

Despite what the Hilbots say FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #106

Hillary is polling at 6 percent with Independents... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #13

Exactly, we nomiate Hillary & we WILL lose the Presidency peacebird Dec 2015 #18

Oh nonsense Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #15

So would I. Laser102 Dec 2015 #16

Bernie polls better against every R candidate than Hillary peacebird Dec 2015 #19

Yes, true Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #26

I will still back Bernie & hope we can get him, a real progressive, in the White House peacebird Dec 2015 #28

And that is totally fine Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #31

I do have to admit she's slick Plucketeer Dec 2015 #29

Your belief that she is slick Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #33

I repeat myself... Plucketeer Dec 2015 #44

I don't understand Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #52

You just undercut one of the arguments to pick her.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #34

Your argument is strange Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #39

The "Liberal Base" is the majority that's been treated like children for too long. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #43

Then let them vote in who they want Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #50

They are the ones excited about Bernie but they're being treated like the enemy. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #51

Not from what I see Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #56

It depends on how you define "Democrat".... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #74

Me too. eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #37

I will not vote for her weknowvino2 Dec 2015 #45

Probably not Old Codger Dec 2015 #110

ummm rtracey Dec 2015 #24

Not to the Repubbies I know Hepburn Dec 2015 #32

The GOPer slurs against Bernie haven't even begun. BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #47

The GOP and others hate Hillary because she cannot be trusted. Hepburn Dec 2015 #76

You certainly are good at repeating BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #79

Too funny! Hepburn Dec 2015 #102

well rtracey Dec 2015 #66

I live in a Blue area of Los Angeles County and so far, thank heavens, Hepburn Dec 2015 #78

About this: "and there are a lot of progressives and dems who aren't (enthusiastic) either." Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #25

Her coattails will be very long as well. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #27

any progressive or so-call democratic who doesn't come out and vote for the Democratic nominee, still_one Dec 2015 #30

That is not the major problem. Hepburn Dec 2015 #35

That is a separate argument, which may or may not have validity. I was specifically addressing the still_one Dec 2015 #42

Predictwise disagrees-the markets are giving the Democrats a 63% chance of winning POTUS Gothmog Dec 2015 #36

I have confidence in Hillary, she is the best qualified. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #53

Any of the Dem candidates can win a GE Gore1FL Dec 2015 #41

I have zero confidence in Hillary Clinton winning the general election. Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #48

"If Sanders wins, we're in trouble" brooklynite Dec 2015 #60

Well, I guess that's all anyone needs to hear. truebluegreen Dec 2015 #113

I dearly hope this message will not be the substance of an "I told you so" Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #61

Bernie appeals to all parties much more than she. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #62

. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #63

I think Hillary could win. fbc Dec 2015 #64

Hillary's banking on the allure of the "First female POTUS". jalan48 Dec 2015 #67

So, when people on DU state openly that they hate Hillary with a passion... baldguy Dec 2015 #68

Oh no! A shrinking minority who hate every liberal will vote against her! Cary Dec 2015 #71

Cripes, "conservatives" are traitors who put ideology before the general welfare Cary Dec 2015 #72

Beware of posters . . . Gamecock Lefty Dec 2015 #73

It's all part of the mental "grooming" propaganda bbgrunt Dec 2015 #77

Beware of posters telling you Hillary won't win. Beacool Dec 2015 #82

So you position is, basically, "all the polls are wrong" Tarc Dec 2015 #86

I beware of any poster who trumpets any prophecy as an absolute... LanternWaste Dec 2015 #87

Agreed MissDeeds Dec 2015 #89

They're just catapulting the propaganda. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2015 #95

Enoy the season, the present of Sanders winning is coming soon. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #101

The only thing between a HRC nomination and a R president is the belief that ppl hate Repubs more nt lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #108