2016 Postmortem

TIME TO PANIC

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144. Pretty disturbing too.

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YouGov Poll: Hillary Clinton Is MOST Dishonest And Untrustworthy Candidate [View all] Segami Dec 2015 OP

When you edge out assTrumpet for dishonesty you're doing it wrong. nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #1

Imagine that.... Segami Dec 2015 #3

She Old Codger Dec 2015 #75

I agree. That's an undeniable part of it. forest444 Dec 2015 #77

Yes...some is gnerated by the Media, bvar22 Dec 2015 #117

True that. forest444 Dec 2015 #119

There will be a female President one day. Aerows Dec 2015 #136

Right. She has a long, public, track record of dishonesty. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #94

Hillary has a long track of honestly: She is the cleanest person in politics lewebley3 Dec 2015 #100

Your assertion isn't borne out in these poll numbers. You might be Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #103

My assertion is born out in every other poll: The American's want Hillary lewebley3 Dec 2015 #105

No. They don't. Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #132

On real Clear poltics HIllary is leading everywhere lewebley3 Dec 2015 #156

The poll numbers reflect a perception formed during decades of right wing propaganda. Nitram Dec 2015 #121

If Hillary has lost any numbers on dishonesty: its because Sanders people are telling lewebley3 Dec 2015 #158

Right. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #159

Oh, then why did she just lie about her $150,000 O&G lobbyist donations? Tote Life Dec 2015 #146

If Hillary lied about anything she will be invesitgate by the press and the GOP lewebley3 Dec 2015 #155

Compared Old Codger Dec 2015 #140

Months of fake email scandals. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #2

One would correctly assume that Dem Ind Rep would include Republicans, as well. libdem4life Dec 2015 #8

You make it obvious that you never even read it. Way to stay informed about the candidates. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #62

We have to live in reality. Hillary, no matter how much you like her, is not a realistic candidate. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #89

Hillary is only realist Candidate: Hillary is her own person: No one owns Hillary lewebley3 Dec 2015 #102

The polls that measure the trust and honesty factors are the ones that count the most. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #113

Prisetly, you need to face reality. No matter how much you dislike her, Clinton is the best candidat Nitram Dec 2015 #123

Americans, in general, do not trust Hillary. That makes them vulnerable to believing utter JDPriestly Dec 2015 #124

The primary is but a puppy, the GE a far off goal. Nitram Dec 2015 #127

Your answer is a poll-driven answer Tote Life Dec 2015 #147

She brought this on herself. 840high Dec 2015 #93

High, that's like saying the victims of McCarthyism brought it on themselves. Nitram Dec 2015 #128

nah - no comparison. Hillary thinks 840high Dec 2015 #142

Well... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #148

Hillary had the "honesty" problem... bvar22 Dec 2015 #137

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #4

Bernie leads the pack as most trustworthy; Hillary limpin' in DEAD LAST! Divernan Dec 2015 #5

This will change once Bernie Sanders conceids and endorses Hillary moobu2 Dec 2015 #6

Yes, it's Bernie's fault and all of his Superpowerful DU supporters. Just happened libdem4life Dec 2015 #11

Of course you spent the 08 primary saying Obama can't win. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #51

Reply for the sole purpose of being able to come back to it later FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #64

Me Too! bvar22 Dec 2015 #138

Wow! I feel bad when I hold President Obama's feet to the fire like he asked us to do. A Simple Game Dec 2015 #73

They are the ones that leave me scratching my head.... blackspade Dec 2015 #81

Talk about "relentless attacks" arcane1 Dec 2015 #133

Wow... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #150

No, it's Mrs. Clinton's 30 years in the public eye. earthside Dec 2015 #59

once Bernie Sanders conceids and endorses Hillary AlbertCat Dec 2015 #70

No kidding. Jackilope Dec 2015 #82

Personally, I would like to see some voting..... blackspade Dec 2015 #85

The right wing has done their job well. Nitram Dec 2015 #7

Oh please Robbins Dec 2015 #12

War mongering? Wall Street ties? Selling out the safety net? Please! Nitram Dec 2015 #14

Yep, Monica Lewinsky was a TOTAL lie. Hepburn Dec 2015 #20

What does Hillary Clinton have to do with a lie about Monica Lewinsky? Guilt by association? Nitram Dec 2015 #27

Ask me if I would have stood by my LYING husband and played dutiful wife? Hepburn Dec 2015 #38

That is betweeen a husband and a wife when it happens. Nitram Dec 2015 #47

And yet Bill did DOMA, which said others have no right to such spousal privilege. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #57

I fail to see how the choice to work out problems in your marriage is related to DOMA. Nitram Dec 2015 #78

Hillary made it between husband, wife and our nation. Hepburn Dec 2015 #97

Hepburn, there's a reason spouses do not have to testify against each other in court. Nitram Dec 2015 #110

Again: When you have some facts, let me know and we will talk. Hepburn Dec 2015 #139

Again, give me evidence that Clinton covered up her husband's affair and we will talk. Nitram Dec 2015 #153

It wasn't between the wife and husband in the 2008 campaign. bvar22 Dec 2015 #129

I agree, BVAR. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #130

That is a very poor thing to say upaloopa Dec 2015 #58

We aren't talking about "a husband". We are talking about Bill Clinton. Laser102 Dec 2015 #87

Yeah, that smile on her face as she greeted the children on the runway. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #45

being under sniper fire Lazy Daisy Dec 2015 #99

let's see Robbins Dec 2015 #46

We have her donor lists... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #151

'Sniper fire at the airport' & 'dead broke' when leaving white house were self inflicted wounds peacebird Dec 2015 #16

Pretty dim proof of war mongering and lying. Nitram Dec 2015 #19

So being warned and saying falsely she was under fire are the same thing? Hepburn Dec 2015 #22

I didn't say they were the same thing. I wrote that she exaggerated. Did you get that far? Nitram Dec 2015 #29

So not telling the truth is merely an exaggeration and not a lie? Hepburn Dec 2015 #44

In a life and death situation the line gets fuzzier. Nitram Dec 2015 #67

Are you claiming Bosnia was a life and death situation? Ino Dec 2015 #114

Potentially, yes. Nitram Dec 2015 #131

You said a lot of things... Ino Dec 2015 #141

You've said this several times now... Ino Dec 2015 #76

Ino, thanks for adding another factor. Sleep deprivation and stress. Nitram Dec 2015 #80

If a little sleep deprivation and stress cause her to make exagerations, she has no business running Bubzer Dec 2015 #95

Bubzer, now you're exaggerating. Nitram Dec 2015 #108

Would I change your mind about him? Depends on the context. Bubzer Dec 2015 #120

Not would you change MY mind. Would you change YOUR mind? nt Nitram Dec 2015 #126

She lied to give herself some combat/foreign experience. Ino Dec 2015 #101

Well, that's obviously false. Nitram Dec 2015 #107

You need to read beyond the headline. Ino Dec 2015 #111

Well I guess Brian Williams should get a pass? blackspade Dec 2015 #90

So Hillary had good reason to fear for her safety? If that is so answer this question for me. A Simple Game Dec 2015 #104

Simple, I've lived in countries where terrorist attacks were a regular occurence. Nitram Dec 2015 #109

You think this exaggeration benefited Hillary? Maybe you should give it another think. A Simple Game Dec 2015 #112

War mongering? Where did I mention that in my post? I just said they were self inflicted wounds peacebird Dec 2015 #25

Peacebird, my reply was ddirected to Robbins. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #31

Ok, thx! peacebird Dec 2015 #34

No, she was totally honest. Here is the videographic proof from the landing... xocet Dec 2015 #35

Oh my, that's an oldie but a goodie! peacebird Dec 2015 #36

Xocet, is shooting at straw men a pastime with you? Nitram Dec 2015 #37

The gulf between totally honest and outright lie is wide and deep. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #50

Your response to that satire and to my sarcasm is ironic; e.g., "shooting". Satire and sarcasm... xocet Dec 2015 #116

LOL! Segami Dec 2015 #40

Some liberals are drunk off their workinclasszero Dec 2015 #83

You got it! Skidmore Dec 2015 #122

No surprises there. Scuba Dec 2015 #9

The polls mean nothing, election is 11 months away nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #10

So, how does she turn this around? Hepburn Dec 2015 #13

Bernie and the Obama campaigning for her, and firebrand80 Dec 2015 #18

LOL...try answering the question. Hepburn Dec 2015 #24

Except for those polls that show Her Inevitableness with a commanding lead, you mean tularetom Dec 2015 #56

You're off script. earthside Dec 2015 #63

I'm a Bernie supporter. katsy Dec 2015 #15

Thank you, Katsy. Nitram Dec 2015 #32

Yeah I agree with you on that Nyan Dec 2015 #69

Holy Shit! Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #17

codswallop Botany Dec 2015 #21

Very simple Q: Is Hillary a liar, yes or no? Segami Dec 2015 #23

I don't think you have to ask that question... Hepburn Dec 2015 #26

No. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #39

See my post above about Hillary claiming she ran ducking sniper fire at the airport peacebird Dec 2015 #28

And yet, among Democrats, she scores higher than Bernie MineralMan Dec 2015 #30

The impact of NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #52

Because you win the general election with 30% of the electorate. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #71

I agree bigwillq Dec 2015 #33

Not even a surprise. SoapBox Dec 2015 #41

This is very interesting in many aspects Nyan Dec 2015 #42

So surpised!!!!! Faux pas Dec 2015 #43

Thanks to push poll proof, Sanders & Clinton are my "YIN & YANG DREAM TEAM". Thank you :P Sunlei Dec 2015 #48

Well, we could always use the Sanders supporters' reason for being so low in the polls.... George II Dec 2015 #49

Shows what billionaires can accomplish, given a few decades. Orsino Dec 2015 #53

Hillary's honesty edges out Sanders's among Dems? Didn't see that coming. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #54

It only demonstrates what success if any all upaloopa Dec 2015 #55

Did you overlook the point that neither the article or the graphs use the word "dishonest"? George II Dec 2015 #60

Well,... Segami Dec 2015 #66

If so then why did you feel the need to change the wording of the poll questions? George II Dec 2015 #74

Semantic distraction SwampG8r Dec 2015 #115

Whoa. The country has The Hillary and The Donald pegged! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #61

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. Autumn Dec 2015 #65

Damn. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #68

lol, that is pretty amazing. Vattel Dec 2015 #143

Pretty disturbing too. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #144

Wow.. Really getting desperate. I trust her. I'm voting for her. So are millions of others. Laser102 Dec 2015 #72

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #79

No wonder Hillary and the GOP want to control the internet Android3.14 Dec 2015 #84

RW propaganda works. Who knew? baldguy Dec 2015 #86

I think there's a dislike for Hillary that has... one_voice Dec 2015 #88

Hillary is so toast! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #91

Proving tbat Americans are breathtakingly stupid Cary Dec 2015 #92

Or that she is dishonest. You decide. The American people have. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #96

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I picture Team Hillary meeting to determine if this whole "trust" thing is important. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #98

... SidDithers Dec 2015 #118

And that's the problem in a nutshell. thesquanderer Dec 2015 #154

Thanks for your deep concern. Nt Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #125

I think Americans, in general, have Stockholm Syndrome Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #134

The latest in news everybody but Hillary Aerows Dec 2015 #135

kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #145

kick in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #149

Why is Bernie so far behind? redstateblues Dec 2015 #152

good point. by the same logic by which they think more debates treestar Dec 2015 #157

This should be a bright red flag for anyone who wants Democrats to win the GE. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #160

Ayup. AzDar Dec 2015 #161