2016 Postmortem

hill2016

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84. we don't yet know

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:18 AM

Dec 2015

what happened.

Even if it was a folder marked "CLinton Campaign Secret Data" he should not have opened the folder.

All we know is the following comments from the Sanders campaign

“After discussion with the DNC it became clear that one of our staffers accessed some modeling data from another campaign,” Briggs said. “That behavior is unacceptable and that staffer was immediately fired.”

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The Sanders staffer was fired. PADemD Dec 2015 #1

yeah hill2016 Dec 2015 #4

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #116

I don't think you know what the word "hacked" means. fbc Dec 2015 #121

Hill2016 Leftyforever Dec 2015 #128

Right... MrWendel Dec 2015 #23

A more interesting question would be when/how that person was hired, winter is coming Dec 2015 #45

It was the National Data Director. Presumably Bernie's campaign would have pnwmom Dec 2015 #126

Yes, because the DNC is to blame for everything. RandySF Dec 2015 #131

wow hill2016 Dec 2015 #2

A day or less. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #13

my guess is hill2016 Dec 2015 #3

Fail. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #5

well hill2016 Dec 2015 #11

Another excellent reason to vote for Bernie. MisterFred Dec 2015 #138

"Sounds like a setup to me." NuclearDem Dec 2015 #12

... in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #33

LOL hill2016 Dec 2015 #35

Total setup CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #111

It was the National Data Director, Josh Uretsky, who improperly accessed the data, pnwmom Dec 2015 #123

Wow, that is not some low level staffer. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #124

So... HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #6

But if I look at the complete story, there's nothing to rage about! winter is coming Dec 2015 #9

that's called hill2016 Dec 2015 #14

Sure HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #18

if you think this is the end of the story hill2016 Dec 2015 #39

Especially HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #119

The staffer would still have to open that file (even if in front of him). riversedge Dec 2015 #115

And here I thought the campaign was hacked TiberiusB Dec 2015 #133

Muddying the waters.... Leftyforever Dec 2015 #139

Incredibly insecure application for a number of reasons newthinking Dec 2015 #58

doesn't matter hill2016 Dec 2015 #60

You are way out of your technical league. Every database has such a connection to the front end newthinking Dec 2015 #62

not hill2016 Dec 2015 #67

Absolutely if it is web based. newthinking Dec 2015 #72

that's the connection to the web server hill2016 Dec 2015 #79

We access the web server which delivers the data you see to our browsers. newthinking Dec 2015 #89

and for your question about web applications. Many database professionals started in web development newthinking Dec 2015 #93

I'm accessing hill2016 Dec 2015 #69

You don't see it. That is a miracle of technology. newthinking Dec 2015 #86

thanks...but they won't passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #117

Not some low level staffer. The National Data Director, Josh Uretsky, pnwmom Dec 2015 #130

Btw, 'Hacked'? Really, hill? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #7

improper access hill2016 Dec 2015 #15

LOL. No! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #27

LOL hill2016 Dec 2015 #43

The issue is that it wasn't the staff who dropped the firewall. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #49

sounds like it was deliberate hill2016 Dec 2015 #55

I could say I'm suprised that you're not understanding this, but it's against Fawke Em Dec 2015 #61

accidental was one thing. deliberately accessing is another thing hill2016 Dec 2015 #83

I've explained this six ways to Sunday in this thread. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #91

If it were a file based update that exposed confidential data the vendor should be named 3 stooges. newthinking Dec 2015 #99

Except that it was the National Data Director, Josh Uretsky, who Bloomberg pnwmom Dec 2015 #132

Giving you the benefit of the doubt here: a2liberal Dec 2015 #137

Try again. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #29

they were hill2016 Dec 2015 #40

There's enough responses from other posters on this thread HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #46

Exactly. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #44

Lame. artislife Dec 2015 #8

What a misleading headline. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #10

doesn't matter what your intentions are hill2016 Dec 2015 #19

No - it's not. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #30

sounds like it was deliberate hill2016 Dec 2015 #50

Now who's spreading the conspiracy theories... HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #56

You're doing a "Bengazi" with this, and it's completely obvious. arcane1 Dec 2015 #88

Looks like the DNC is worried. Autumn Dec 2015 #20

blows could be dealt tiny elvis Dec 2015 #16

Not a hack. Irresponsible mismanagement of confidential information, sure, but not deliberate. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #17

it's hill2016 Dec 2015 #21

Intent matters. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #28

Yet they fired them... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #38

Because that's the right thing to do, unfortunately. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #54

Because it's not. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #34

Eh, I see this as a non-story Godhumor Dec 2015 #22

Thank you. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #36

Certainly not my area of expertise, but this seems pretty cut and dried Godhumor Dec 2015 #53

After reading most of the posts here, I agree with you. napi21 Dec 2015 #102

Your subject line is a flat out lie Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #24

unauthorized access = hack hill2016 Dec 2015 #70

Well if you have evidence of hacking you should contact the FBI Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #101

HACKED???? That's not what the article, that you posted, says. No one "HACKED" anything. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #25

Interesting timing, eh? Lorien Dec 2015 #114

He has the missing Bengazi emails from the private server too hollowdweller Dec 2015 #26

Whooooops...... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #31

Nothing to see here!!!! MrWendel Dec 2015 #32

Hacking isn't "fine," but no one hacked anything here. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #41

So they... MrWendel Dec 2015 #57

See my post about defending against a bully above. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #64

uh huh. MrWendel Dec 2015 #66

When you state that "hacking" occurred, you are outright lying. Maedhros Dec 2015 #118

So now he's denied access to the DNC voter database??? madfloridian Dec 2015 #37

You need to change your headline because it's wrong. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #47

here you go hill2016 Dec 2015 #59

It's Mrs., but this staffer opened a file. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #81

we don't yet know hill2016 Dec 2015 #84

Most people are unaware of what servers they're supposed to have access to at Fawke Em Dec 2015 #90

what about this? hill2016 Dec 2015 #65

Arrrrgghhh! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #85

once Sanders campaign hill2016 Dec 2015 #92

I think a proper discussion of this has been precluded by a somewhat inflammatory headline. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #48

I wonder how that low level staffer conveniently knew just when the vendor would have the firewall notadmblnd Dec 2015 #51

I'm wondering that, too. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #52

I know right... MrWendel Dec 2015 #63

There is and many people on this thread have explained it. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #68

Oh I have... MrWendel Dec 2015 #71

I hope you Hillary fans learn something about data security, then. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #80

Yep. MrWendel Dec 2015 #82

Of course not. She's got Debbie Wasserman Schultz to do it for her. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #100

Not sure... MrWendel Dec 2015 #109

No need. Time will tell. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #110

Yep, MrWendel Dec 2015 #112

Just like there is for HRC e-mail issues notadmblnd Dec 2015 #78

Another tell is that Bernie's campaign immediately report it. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #77

It's been a while but I worked in IT too notadmblnd Dec 2015 #94

This is definitely not the entire story. newthinking Dec 2015 #107

Well sure, these "technical" people know their users are ignorant notadmblnd Dec 2015 #122

How come the Sanders campaign fired their National Data Director pnwmom Dec 2015 #134

This whole thing stinks of incompetancy newthinking Dec 2015 #103

Why would one even perform maintenance with the files available to users? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #105

you get it. This raises more questions about the vendor's product and "patching" process than newthinking Dec 2015 #108

Also, if I'm the Clinton campaign... BlueCheese Dec 2015 #73

If the Clintons gave a shit about fair we wouldn't be having the 3rd debate jfern Dec 2015 #97

Oh this is silly mythology Dec 2015 #74

what about this hill2016 Dec 2015 #87

a HRC supporter suggestioning HRC should pursue criminal investigation. Ha ! funny Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #75

Could this possibly be the same DNC I believe sold MY name and address to a myriad of retailers? Samantha Dec 2015 #76

Joined in May. arcane1 Dec 2015 #95

Let me get this straight jfern Dec 2015 #96

It's only December, and this is what they are reduced to n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #98

Disgusting bluestateguy Dec 2015 #104

Not a hack. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #106

Try again Lorien Dec 2015 #113

I just can't believe the staffer got thrown under the bus for this... MrWendel Dec 2015 #120

Berniegate! R B Garr Dec 2015 #125

After discussion with the DNC it became clear that one of our staffers accessed some modeling data Cha Dec 2015 #127

I'm not at all surprised given the attitude of so many Sanders supporters. RandySF Dec 2015 #129

No prob. I'm sure Hill's folks took care of it with a cloth. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #135

This was not a low-level staffer RandySF Dec 2015 #136