2016 Postmortem

Human101948

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5. Hillary is still seen as the most dishonest by most people...

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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:30 AM

Dec 2015

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/poll-clinton-seen-most-dishonest-untrustworthy-top-presidential-candidate

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Kind of frightening how the Sanders campaign... [View all] NCTraveler Dec 2015 OP

I hope a good Dem runs against Sanders in 2018 MohRokTah Dec 2015 #1

Lol. A million flatlanders like you could waste your money that way and we vermonters cali Dec 2015 #11

The seat Sanders currently holds was held by Jim Jeffords before him. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #13

corrupt and dishonest man. DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #30

Samders proved himself to be corrupt and dishonest in the Sanders Data Theft Scandal. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #32

because he fired the person that stole DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #40

They downloaded and saved data. Gman Dec 2015 #94

He warned Hillary that he was going to steal her data? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #103

Theft? Methinks you state untruths. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #57

Yes, theft. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #60

Really. Cite the law. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #62

18 U.S. Code �1030 eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #71

you do realize how silly you look when people ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #132

They inappropriatly accessed data on a protected computer they were not authorized to access. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #134

perps enid602 Dec 2015 #177

Someone downloaded and saved data Gman Dec 2015 #95

How so? What did Sanders himself do, that proved himself to be corrupt/dishonest? (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2015 #78

You know something, all that bluster has lost it's punch upaloopa Dec 2015 #104

A few stupid nerds compared to Selling Out the economy Armstead Dec 2015 #49

You are free to beleie whatever you choose. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #55

ahh, so cheating to steal an election is the little stuff, and not worth sweating? Amimnoch Dec 2015 #100

Yes I was the mastermind of it Armstead Dec 2015 #102

You want the DNC to try to primary a popular incumbent... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #77

Sanders wanted to primary a popular incumbent in the White House. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #80

Three things... thesquanderer Dec 2015 #105

Sanders is a good small state senator. He needs to stay there. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #108

Hell, even in that roll he's been pretty useless. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #129

You haven't a clue. The last time Jim was elected as a republican was over 15 years ago. Bernie cali Dec 2015 #83

You're confused. Hilly is the thoroughly dishonest and corrupt candidate. cali Dec 2015 #84

For a person whose own candidate is caught up in many hughee99 Dec 2015 #122

Start here Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #25

or someone who is actually a Dem. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #96

Just another rabid Hillary supporter fasttense Dec 2015 #111

Wealthy with an entitilement complex perhaps? Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #176

Thankfully, I doubt he'll run again. He got his day(s) in the spotlight, now he'll probably retire. George II Dec 2015 #112

This is part of a pattern yardwork Dec 2015 #2

Absolutely. tecelote Dec 2015 #23

Well, there is no practical way to replace the vendor. longship Dec 2015 #35

Does their contract require them to actually do the job? Most contracts do. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #123

Well, that argument may be valid, but irrelevant. longship Dec 2015 #131

There was a problem with the Vendor's code, not a virus. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #36

And, why take it to the media? tecelote Dec 2015 #93

So the Bernie defense is that this was a honey trap? Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #98

The asking of the question 'why' is not the same as an assertion, much less an excuse. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #125

Some folks think that a computer bug IS a virus RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #184

Yep. No one that thin skinned will win a presidential election.nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #3

"Small ball" describes the OP post very well. merrily Dec 2015 #4

You're missing an "s". SmittynMo Dec 2015 #22

!!!!!!!!!!! merrily Dec 2015 #38

that gif rocks!!! nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #81

Thanks. I thought I'd toss it into that reply because that reply rocked even more. merrily Dec 2015 #85

it totally worked. the berners are on fire today!! nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #86

I KNOW! I've already proposed to several and it's only a few minutes after 9. merrily Dec 2015 #87

tee hee hee. you bad girl! edit restorefreedom Dec 2015 #88

Neither. merrily Dec 2015 #110

good grief....W.O.M.A.N.....too bad the music is so catchy. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #113

I think so. merrily Dec 2015 #119

true, but jc was so campy in that, it made it worth watching. nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #126

Yeah, no. It was worth watching only as an object lesson. Or lesion. merrily Dec 2015 #127

i think his campyness actually adds to the lesson of shunning male domination and chauvinism. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #130

Results of your jury... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #142

Times like this really make me wonder SmittynMo Dec 2015 #152

Yeah know, Mbrow Dec 2015 #47

I've posted many times, given where I live, I could vote for Donald Duck all day long and my merrily Dec 2015 #50

Yeah, I live in a purple county in a purple state. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #63

Thing is, not every purple county is deemed critical. As the post I linked said, merrily Dec 2015 #76

I hear you, Mbrow Dec 2015 #64

Could be worse. You could be in Indiana! Obama did take it in 2008, though. merrily Dec 2015 #68

My wife worked hard Mbrow Dec 2015 #75

You don't have to tell a long story to convince me. merrily Dec 2015 #79

In 2008 during the Primary Indiana played a big roll in INdemo Dec 2015 #155

Hillary is still seen as the most dishonest by most people... Human101948 Dec 2015 #5

Sanders hasn't had any media coverage... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #6

But she is virtually equal in that poll to Donald Trump... Human101948 Dec 2015 #9

Excuse of the week eom rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #24

No ... We are told on a daily basis about the lack of coverage ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #45

He's getting coverage now! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #27

Actually, that poll is still informative thesquanderer Dec 2015 #90

I 2nd that claim as true, even with such close competition from the liars of the right... drynberg Dec 2015 #28

I thought the Sanders campaign proved they were strong, would not lay down & be bullied by DWS peacebird Dec 2015 #7

Will Bernie apologize to Hillary tonight during the debate? Alfresco Dec 2015 #8

Hillary should apologize for DWS... Human101948 Dec 2015 #10

I think he will apologize to Hillary. It would be the right thing to do. Alfresco Dec 2015 #14

Hillary should tender her apologies to him. cali Dec 2015 #12

I think he will apologize to Hillary. It would be the right thing to do. Alfresco Dec 2015 #15

I think you will change tune... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18

If that was the case DWS would be eager for court instead of folding at the filing in a court of law Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #141

"the media coming after her daily" with donations reddread Dec 2015 #16

Promoting the "left wing media" isn't going to get you far. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19

wow, what sort of glasses are those? reddread Dec 2015 #20

And that's why he has his data back? Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #17

He has his data back because... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #37

Ah, that's beautiful. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #43

Never seen a group work to pass the buck this bad. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #67

If it makes no sense Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #82

Taking things that don't belong to you is stealing. Why are people trying to justify stealing? Laser102 Dec 2015 #99

I think the reversal was more a matter of ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #52

That's certainly one way of looking at it. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #54

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #58

I'm no attorney, but I do hire and fire them for the purposes Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #139

I was an attorney ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #157

What I am saying but you are not is that no one knows what motivated her to hire this firm Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #160

The pressure was no doubt applied AFTER she went on air ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #165

What nonsense... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #70

+1. n/t ms liberty Dec 2015 #89

Care to post a link to the agreement? 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #128

Here you go... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #140

Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #149

If I had to guess... OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #163

Agreed; but, the contract should be with a different vendor. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #164

Why? OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #168

Because the DNC was responsible (per the contract) ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #169

What lack of responsiveness? OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #172

When Sanders cooperated with the DNC he got his data back. Those trying to pretend it was Number23 Dec 2015 #185

Agreed rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #21

+1 NurseJackie Dec 2015 #29

Sniff....sniff ejbr Dec 2015 #42

To be a sore loser, one first has to lose. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #46

Sore loser? Please nyabingi Dec 2015 #74

I viewed the reaction as the exact opposite: strong and forceful. Vinca Dec 2015 #26

Exactly, which is what the Clinton Machine didn't count on. Surprise! polichick Dec 2015 #181

So, what is Clinton going to do with the Sanders data she grabbed? eridani Dec 2015 #31

Please back what you are saying. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #33

When this plays out Madmiddle Dec 2015 #39

Wow. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #41

Just a repeat of what she did in 2008. It's been posted n/t eridani Dec 2015 #44

Where? wildeyed Dec 2015 #48

here eridani Dec 2015 #72

No, that is a Sanders document wildeyed Dec 2015 #106

NCTraveler Madmiddle Dec 2015 #34

Yes, you're correct. Sanders is not as experienced at handling Screw Ups as his opponent Armstead Dec 2015 #51

You win the internets!!!!! Scuba Dec 2015 #69

The response by his fanatical supporters has been terrifying alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #53

Why so terrified? Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #59

Scary, isn't it... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #73

It's awful. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #154

I admire their shamelessness RandySF Dec 2015 #56

LOL DURHAM D Dec 2015 #66

I guess that's why the DNC backed down shortly before the hearing and restored Sanders' access magical thyme Dec 2015 #61

And that's the bottom line. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #65

well said. n/t ms liberty Dec 2015 #92

I don't think Sanders has any control in his campaign Gman Dec 2015 #91

What bullshit. Punkingal Dec 2015 #145

very professional victim status players. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #97

mostly agree bigtree Dec 2015 #101

Yes the Clintons are pros at scandals Armstead Dec 2015 #107

I'm 55 bigtree Dec 2015 #136

I'm 63 and was incensed at the GOP but.... Armstead Dec 2015 #143

you changed the subject bigtree Dec 2015 #147

Unfortunately Hillary is part of a larger network Armstead Dec 2015 #148

all of that doesn't automatically make her some sort of miscreant or criminal bigtree Dec 2015 #151

I'm not saying she is a criminal....The problem, is that she represents business as usual Armstead Dec 2015 #162

I think that's exaggerated bigtree Dec 2015 #167

We are about the same age. I still have problems with the Clinton entitlement to a 'private affair' Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #153

I think that's fair bigtree Dec 2015 #159

That last line. DNC has reponsibility to esure the data is secure. They have not done so. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #120

I agree the DNC has a vendor problem which needs addressing bigtree Dec 2015 #137

It's also a man fired for wrongdoing vs a company currently rewarded for ineptitude on a grand Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #146

why should I have to prove your charges? bigtree Dec 2015 #150

You were asked to prove your own assertion that the vendor was merly incompetent. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #158

Discovery is the magic word. Note that last night, DWS was insisting that there must be a Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #109

Bingo. SHRED Dec 2015 #114

I've been enforcing contracts under which I work since my early 20's. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #133

Please, stop being a mouthpiece for Debbie. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #115

I'm not a big DWS fan. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #121

I suspect you and I are not even within the same paradigm anymore. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #124

When posters criticize DWS, you claim 'everyone trashing Clinton'. That's not wise verbiage. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #135

looked pretty organized, clear and direct to me retrowire Dec 2015 #116

All one has to do is look up Jeff Weaver's background to see why they're so disorganized: George II Dec 2015 #117

So when is that DNC $30,000+ per plate Billionaires Fundraiser, hosted by Hill and Willie SoapBox Dec 2015 #118

Hoo boy MFrohike Dec 2015 #138

It's actually not surprising to me that Bernie and his campaign ..... Sheepshank Dec 2015 #144

This Citizen Heard Pitch Perfect Response From The Sanders Campaign cantbeserious Dec 2015 #156

Bernie turned their bullshit back on them and got his way. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #161

Definately makes Sanders look bad, like apoor leader. K & R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #166

Bernie has not be tested as Hillary been, multiple times. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #170

Keep pushing that boulder up the mountain! artislife Dec 2015 #171

I Think What Bernie Did Is What MANY Before Him NEVER Had ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #173

It has been very scary to watch this! R B Garr Dec 2015 #174

sanders flounders.. exactly. Cha Dec 2015 #175

There's kind of a difference Scootaloo Dec 2015 #178

Bwahaha - it must be opposite day on GD:P Matariki Dec 2015 #179

The DNC got CLOBBERED yesterday by the sheer volume of people who support Sanders Matariki Dec 2015 #180

He just recently became a dem gwheezie Dec 2015 #182

"Compare that to..." I guess you dont remember Hillary's train wreck press conference in Vegas? Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #183