2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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13. I think you're jumping 20 steps

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:16 AM

Dec 2015

IF it turns out that they stiored and used this information and IF it turns out that their actions had the support of Sanders and his top leadership (outside of the person or potentially otehr persons) you might have a point. But a lot of IFs you're are coming to premature conclusions on.

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As of now, I am no longer a Democrat. [View all] cali Dec 2015 OP

I am leaning that way myself, after 40 years as a solid D. peacebird Dec 2015 #1

But it was an Independent who stole data. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #2

No it wasn't. Do you actually believe Bernie gave orders that that be done? cali Dec 2015 #4

Personally, I think it's unlikely that he gave any orders or knew in advance. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #12

I don't think he knew Andy823 Dec 2015 #32

Where does "the buck stop"? George II Dec 2015 #39

it never seems to stop with Hillary. roguevalley Dec 2015 #64

Moreover, he has been a Democrat since he began running for the Democratic nomination. merrily Dec 2015 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #84

Ratfuckers everywhere! Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #102

It was the DLC that used a flamethrower to swat a fly Armstead Dec 2015 #6

A fly worth millions of dollars. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #10

I think you're jumping 20 steps Armstead Dec 2015 #13

Time published the logs of their intrusion. They made up at least two new sign-ons... George II Dec 2015 #40

You're doing exactly what you criticize Clinton's critics of doing Armstead Dec 2015 #45

The DLC folded years ago One of the 99 Dec 2015 #66

I meant DNC...typo Armstead Dec 2015 #124

OK Sorry. One of the 99 Dec 2015 #140

Blinded by the light.... Leftyforever Dec 2015 #28

That is slanderous to Bernie Sanders he did not "stole" anything bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #78

. firebrand80 Dec 2015 #3

Way to encourage Sanders supporters to vote for Clinton. The Boss Dec 2015 #43

I'm certain that my silly DU post firebrand80 Dec 2015 #62

I stand on principal!! Dem2 Dec 2015 #97

Considering the response was to a poster who routinely insults and belittles DUers mythology Dec 2015 #136

Welcome back! Where did you dig up this old profile? arcane1 Dec 2015 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author RKP5637 Dec 2015 #5

But the cheaters and stealers are as pure as the white driven snow? boston bean Dec 2015 #7

Same here Robbins Dec 2015 #8

I thought about that now that the D is tarnished with the thievery of Bernie's campaign. DanTex Dec 2015 #9

No you didn't -- Get real Armstead Dec 2015 #15

yeah, right Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #86

Congratulations. Now maybe you will find some sort of Independent Underground Tanuki Dec 2015 #11

Sorry. I'm staying cali Dec 2015 #17

Re-read the rules, Ace. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #30

You would be surprised and many of my friends here know jwirr Dec 2015 #90

I will Forever be a Dem fredamae Dec 2015 #14

I hope your sentiment is not widely shared - JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #16

Independents vote. And there are more independents than cali Dec 2015 #18

no, the Clinton neo-liberal wing of the party is doing that Doctor_J Dec 2015 #22

Oh, Lord, it's not Stuckinthebush Dec 2015 #25

Hillary or one of the Repukes Hepburn Dec 2015 #44

Clinton's biggest donors certainly see no difference. arcane1 Dec 2015 #127

You know what else could put a Republican in the White House? Chef Eric Dec 2015 #65

I was an Independent who voted straight Dem until 2003 magical thyme Dec 2015 #94

I think it already has 'cause a lot of folks feel the same. PFunk1 Dec 2015 #118

The Center-Right Clinton Party earthside Dec 2015 #19

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It has also devolved into an entity that attracts and promotes people with whom I don't Doctor_J Dec 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author RKP5637 Dec 2015 #37

I agree. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #103

I will likely go back to MuseRider Dec 2015 #21

Bye bye we can do it Dec 2015 #23

Cool! Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #34

I do not belong to the Hillary Clinton Party Ino Dec 2015 #24

I cut ties in 2004 after Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #26

And the world quakes in horror. randome Dec 2015 #27

The level of drama on display around here the last few days is rather stunning. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #29

poor attempt at mockery. cali Dec 2015 #31

Probably but I'm a latte-swilling liberal working out of Starbucks this morning. randome Dec 2015 #38

I'm more anti-Rethuglican than Dem. roamer65 Dec 2015 #33

Nor will I... Hepburn Dec 2015 #47

...and yet you're still here at DEMOCRATIC Underground. brooklynite Dec 2015 #35

... progressoid Dec 2015 #134

I'm not claiming this is a TOS violation brooklynite Dec 2015 #138

Glad you have found your happy place. msrizzo Dec 2015 #36

That wasn't in question. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #41

I reg'd to vote the day I turned 21...the age of majority back when. Hepburn Dec 2015 #42

Me too. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #46

The DNC is sleazy & corrupt. The Democratic Party... Duppers Dec 2015 #48

Oh the drama Dem2 Dec 2015 #49

hasta la vista Historic NY Dec 2015 #50

So you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the democratic nominee? boston bean Dec 2015 #51

Very sneaky! I hope Cali doesn't take the bait!11!!!1!!!1!11!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #80

What sneaky? If the democratic party is "sleazy and corrupt" seems to me that some one that boston bean Dec 2015 #83

she has Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #114

The OP already made clear she won't be voting for Hillary if she's the nominee.... Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #108

k&r Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #52

The elephant in the room. earthside Dec 2015 #58

Cali.. choie Dec 2015 #53

That is so awesome Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #54

This Citizen Transitioned In 2004 To Progressively Independent After Volunteering For Martin Frost cantbeserious Dec 2015 #55

That's EXACTLY how I feel, cali. RiverLover Dec 2015 #56

Big deal. I haven't been a Dem since 2008 and it doesn't change a damn thing. Unless of course you seaglass Dec 2015 #57

OK. Thanks for letting us know. MineralMan Dec 2015 #59

You're very welcome. cali Dec 2015 #71

Yawn trumad Dec 2015 #60

Bwahaha. You are so funny. My op pissed you off so much you had a cute tantrum cali Dec 2015 #68

he put himself on vacation Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #91

When desperation turns into petulance, we know they're getting worried arcane1 Dec 2015 #128

I've joined you. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #61

Democrats are always saying winning over independent voters is the key. pa28 Dec 2015 #63

Congratulations. SoapBox Dec 2015 #67

Karl Rove's approach was to attack the opponent's strength. Bernie's strength compared to Hillary is TryLogic Dec 2015 #69

Capitalization and puncuation are importamt Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #70

I've not been one since the first Clinton admin stupidicus Dec 2015 #72

That's probably for the best. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #73

Ok. you get the goodies for the day... riversedge Dec 2015 #74

Hey! This isn't Sleazy and Corrupt Underground! Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #75

I keep hearing about dems jumping ship, there must be loads of new party members backfilling to Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #76

See ya. n/t JTFrog Dec 2015 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #81

Cali isn't a Libertarian or anywhere close to "right-wing" Depaysement Dec 2015 #95

I've been an Independent since 2001 zalinda Dec 2015 #85

I wonder if there is anything we can do to convince our local jwirr Dec 2015 #87

I too have left Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #96

How about if we vote for neither of them? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #98

my state does not matter anyway Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #100

I live in a very blue state that would most likely go for Hillary if she's nominated. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #104

understandable Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #106

I think your observation is most likely correct. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #109

I agree completely Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #113

I used to think that way, missed the election where our local school board levy failed by 11 votes uppityperson Dec 2015 #115

I'm talking about federal elections. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #117

I agree. But my larger point was whenn 40% decide their individual vote won't count uppityperson Dec 2015 #119

No offense taken. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #121

I will not vote for Trump Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #99

Enjoy the music randys1 Dec 2015 #92

I called the DNC $$$$ line posted here yesterday... Jackilope Dec 2015 #93

Debbie Wasserman Schultz , the Chair of the DNC... bvar22 Dec 2015 #125

oh yes DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #132

Did you ever, at any time in the past, donate to them? Hekate Dec 2015 #130

Yes, my husband did donate and we get calls. Jackilope Dec 2015 #139

only problem with that is TheFarseer Dec 2015 #101

To This Citizen - The Fight Is Between The 99% And The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Fund cantbeserious Dec 2015 #105

Understand. oldandhappy Dec 2015 #107

Good ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #110

O.k. seabeyond Dec 2015 #111

What's the Sanders campaign did was awful... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #112

Good point. Hekate Dec 2015 #135

I've probally will stay a dem to have a small say in the elections. PFunk1 Dec 2015 #116

I'll stay a Dem TeddyR Dec 2015 #120

What took you so long? Dawgs Dec 2015 #122

Since you asked (nicely) because I've had this hope that somehow the party will change if it has to. PFunk1 Dec 2015 #137

I've ALWAYS Been A Democrat & I Will Be One UNTIL ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #123

When were you ever? Hekate Dec 2015 #129

We are in a closed primary state. As soon as we vote for Bernie, we are all going Independent ViseGrip Dec 2015 #131

Since a fish rots from the top down here's what I did yesterday. The empressof all Dec 2015 #133

Can I suggest holding your breath until you turn blue? brooklynite Dec 2015 #141