2016 Postmortem

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64. Hillary needs to distance herself from DWS and this whole thing

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:57 PM

Dec 2015

DWS is toxic and plays into the worst stereotypes about Hillary. The whole data kerfuffle just gives repukes the opportunity to giggle about the email no-story and how dems can't keep their own house together.

The party should just flush DWS and move on.

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It's no mystery why the DNC decided to go to the press when it did. [View all] pnwmom Dec 2015 OP

That is why Wasserman should go. dogman Dec 2015 #1

Bernie couldn't even control his National Data Director? Maybe he should quit. pnwmom Dec 2015 #2

I don't understand why her leaks to the press differ from her vendor's response. dogman Dec 2015 #4

She hired her totally incompetent pals from the old Clinton campaign Matariki Dec 2015 #7

Take the network offline in the wee hours of the morning... l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #28

As an IT Officer for a financial firm: In 35 years, never seeing this level of gross incompetence! TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #36

Thank you Proserpina Dec 2015 #37

And there you have it folks - Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #59

Also, you generally don't have to take down a firewall to apply patches. eom Fawke Em Dec 2015 #62

Normally, firewall updates are done real-time, prone to typos. The Userid security troubles me. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #80

This should be a separate OP. VERY very informative snagglepuss Dec 2015 #78

How do you explain the fact that the only data that was recorded was leveymg Dec 2015 #8

MSNBC and ABC said that multiple lists were downloaded and saved. pnwmom Dec 2015 #20

That seems to have been one of the staffers. leveymg Dec 2015 #24

the vendor has already said that is impossible restorefreedom Dec 2015 #26

You're making the cmmon mistake of taking anything this poster says seriously. arcane1 Dec 2015 #55

Exactly, Wasserman must GO! ViseGrip Dec 2015 #3

bernie's team sabotaged their own campaign. Cha Dec 2015 #15

It's almost as if they're "inherently amoral", right? arcane1 Dec 2015 #56

Whose running for president? If this is his answer to problem solving especially when at fault, seabeyond Dec 2015 #17

The question at hand is who is running the DNC? dogman Dec 2015 #21

I think our primary and candidate for President of the United States is the issue and what this is seabeyond Dec 2015 #22

I think you failed to read the OP and follow the thread. dogman Dec 2015 #57

Oh yes she did. Her bias is showing and she overplayed her hand in the process. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #34

DWS is a horrible person... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #5

Who the hell steals from another and then refuses to comply when caught? seabeyond Dec 2015 #18

In what ways did they not comply? Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #32

They did comply... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #45

Exactly! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #31

Perhaps you should ask those questions of the guys who knowingly broke the rules mythology Dec 2015 #76

Simple yes. Logic no. Matariki Dec 2015 #6

I've worked in a law office. Have you? That document was not thrown together pnwmom Dec 2015 #11

I've written long, complex briefs and motions in an afternoon. leveymg Dec 2015 #25

Don't you think in a situation where there are attorneys ON RETAINER pnwmom Dec 2015 #39

My understanding is that the Data Director complained to DNC/VAN about the firewall being down on leveymg Dec 2015 #44

I didn't suggest something nefarious was planned. Simply that once Debbie announced pnwmom Dec 2015 #47

Since I haven't heard a first-hand account from either side who was at that meeting, that seems leveymg Dec 2015 #49

No one knows what happened in 2008. There was no indication that the "something similar" pnwmom Dec 2015 #51

Hillary needs to distance herself from DWS and this whole thing zigby Dec 2015 #64

Coming in on the side of this being rushed l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #29

Yes, I have gone from zero to civil complaint in a couple of hours jberryhill Dec 2015 #38

But if you had attorneys on retainer would you wait till the last minute to tell them pnwmom Dec 2015 #40

Yeah, that's the whole point of having them on retainer jberryhill Dec 2015 #79

How long ago? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #66

silly silly silly SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #74

Bernie wouldn't have sued if she didn't cut him off or make a big deal about it NightWatcher Dec 2015 #9

I have worked for lawyers. And I looked at this document and it's not like a deed or mortgage pnwmom Dec 2015 #12

She wouldn't have cut him off if he complied after being caught stealing. seabeyond Dec 2015 #19

He wouldn't have sued if DWS / DNC had complied with their own contract terms. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #46

You so rock sometimes. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #10

Thank you, MeNMyVolt. :) pnwmom Dec 2015 #13

Except the op is pure bull. cali Dec 2015 #41

+1 deutsey Dec 2015 #75

KIck! Cha Dec 2015 #14

Makes sense to me. oasis Dec 2015 #16

If that is the case, it is a tactically bad move by Sanders. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #23

It seems to me if you were anticipating mmonk Dec 2015 #27

You know zip about filing a law suit. cali Dec 2015 #30

A first year law student could have written that in an afternoon. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #33

No shit. The ignorance of the claim in the op is amusing. cali Dec 2015 #35

Well then it didn't work very well, did it? ljm2002 Dec 2015 #42

From the perspective of the 25% of Dems who are Bernie supporters, no, it didn't. pnwmom Dec 2015 #43

"it was good that Debbie framed the issue"... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #48

Right. Like Weaver didn't "frame the issue" on behalf of Bernie. pnwmom Dec 2015 #50

The only reason Weaver was in front of any cameras... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #52

It would have been a public incident the second a Federal lawsuit was filed. pnwmom Dec 2015 #53

The only reason a federal lawsuit was filed... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #54

He's polling around 1/3 not 1/4 jfern Dec 2015 #61

The Monmouth U national poll on Dec 15 put him at 26%. Sorry, I was off by a point. pnwmom Dec 2015 #65

Monmouth has been crappy this year. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #67

LOL. No, their sample includes adults ages 18+, just like other major pollsters. pnwmom Dec 2015 #69

The recent NBC had him at 37, sorry I was off by 3 2/3 % jfern Dec 2015 #68

Link, please. pnwmom Dec 2015 #70

Here jfern Dec 2015 #71

Thank you. So he's 19 - 32 points behind. Somewhere in that range. There's also pnwmom Dec 2015 #73

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a disaster as DNC chair. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #58

..... bigwillq Dec 2015 #72

There was around 18 hours from when the media got the story until the lawsuit was filed jfern Dec 2015 #60

Not only do you not know about data security, you also don't know about lawsuits. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #63

WE haven't found out who tipped off the Washington Post.... Historic NY Dec 2015 #77