2016 Postmortem

Orrex

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59. That's a very different question

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:32 PM

Dec 2015

The claim is that Trump or Clinton or DU Admin or the GOP or Clinton's supporters on DU are afraid of Sanders. I find that claim laughable and entirely lacking in supporting evidence.

The claim that the media plays to (and upon) our fears is hardly new and hardly controversial, but it's really not relevant to claims that people "fear" Sanders. In fact, the "fear" claimed by Sanders' supporters is rather similar to the fear reported by the media--ginned up out of nothing in order to capture (or distract) our attention.

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One thing is for sure, Trump is afraid of Bernie, not so much of Hillary. [View all] Uncle Joe Dec 2015 OP

I think it's pretty obvious that Hillary wants Trump Dem2 Dec 2015 #1

By Trump's response he has the same motivation, that's why he called her out on a bathroom break, Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #4

I don't really agree with that logic Dem2 Dec 2015 #12

If Bernie starts winning the primaries, Trump will have little choice but he's not going to do Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #29

I agree tazkcmo Dec 2015 #38

Trump is already down by 12 to her. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #15

Bernie will have a 55 point lead. pangaia Dec 2015 #22

Bernie can't even beat Hillary in a debate. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #25

That's totally subjective and the on line polls along with the focus groups in the first debate Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #31

Online polls? Like Hannitys polls redstateblues Dec 2015 #44

Does Hannity run all of these polls? Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #49

Clickety click. LOL redstateblues Dec 2015 #52

Clickety, clickety clickety. LOL Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #53

Lots of Republicans donated to Nader's campaigns in 2000 and 2004. Republican strategists are BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #57

Nader ran outside the Democratic Party, his poll numbers never approached Bernie's and yet Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #60

You are on point, Uncle Joe. Keep it up. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #75

Thank you, Ed Suspicious. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #115

Oh it's fucking hilarious, isn't it? You don't find it a little odd that EVERY online poll Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #73

That is a matter of opinion. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #33

P.S. Did you notice that Trump isn't calling on Bernie to apologize for calling him Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #45

"On the other hand Bernie can call Trump a "Pathological Liar" and from Trump all sufrommich Dec 2015 #2

+1 MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #3

What do you think it means if I'm incorrect? Trump has no answer to it Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #5

I think it means Trump doesn't think he'll be running sufrommich Dec 2015 #7

Trump only insures that by not mentioning Bernie's name it's the name that shall not be spoken Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #14

So you're saying that Trump,the guy who bashed the sufrommich Dec 2015 #19

That's irrelevant, Trump never had to worry about running against President Obama n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #21

Bernie has conviction. dinkytron Dec 2015 #47

He certainly does, dinkytron that scares the poop out of Trump. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #50

Trump needs to consult DU's expert analysts before it's too late. oasis Dec 2015 #17

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #28

then tell us what all it means Mr. Natural? hobbit709 Dec 2015 #9

Then he's more of a fool than he MineralMan Dec 2015 #6

You are mistaking dismissiveness for fear ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #8

Agreed. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #11

Trump; wants Bernie to be a non-factor because he knows his major trust issues become moot Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #16

Yeah. Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #24

Yep. You'd think that would be obvious. grossproffit Dec 2015 #26

That's right. Trump is not afraid of Sanders. All indications are that HRC will be the nominee. And, Lil Missy Dec 2015 #105

This is the fight Clinton wants. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10

How is that? n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #20

She'll lose. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #23

I feel more confident going into the Ge... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #30

Nope. There are lots of Rs who won't vote for Trump redstateblues Dec 2015 #46

I'll bet ya tazkcmo Dec 2015 #51

They won't be voting for a Socialist redstateblues Dec 2015 #54

The online polls, record breaking number of contributions and Trump's fear of attacking Bernie Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #55

Trump isn't attacking Bernie because he's not polling as well as Clinton. grossproffit Dec 2015 #65

Trump is attacking Hillary because he has no fear of her, but he's afraid to raise Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #68

You don't waste your time going after someone who isn't winning. grossproffit Dec 2015 #77

If Trump viewed Hillary as the greater threat, why not go after Bernie and Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #78

That's not how it works. Candidates don't waste money going after those who aren't a threat. grossproffit Dec 2015 #80

Trump has unlimited free air, the corporate media keeps him front and center night and day, Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #81

That would bring attention to a candidate that he sees as insignificant. grossproffit Dec 2015 #85

Trump is afraid of Bernie's poll numbers rising, that's why he doesn't bring attention. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #90

Trump respects Bernie. 840high Dec 2015 #97

He does and he's already said he wants Hillary to win the primary because 'she will be easier sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #102

"Honeymoon"?Diplomatic trip w/10 Burlington officials! Divernan Dec 2015 #93

Think the Rs will vote for Clinton? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #114

I think some of them won;t vote. Adrahil Dec 2015 #118

You have no idea what you're talking about. Metric System Dec 2015 #48

Can I borrow your crystal ball? leftofcool Dec 2015 #103

Trump ignores Bernie hoping Bernie will go away ... quietly. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #13

Precisely, such a race would have all the integrity of professional wrestling, and the paying fans Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #18

Nice comparison. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #27

Won anything? Billionaire even after inheritance he built a ton yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #36

You seem to admire him. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #88

No. But I won't lie about him or anyone. I think it is tacky and ignorant. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #99

+1000 Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #125

They're good friends. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #32

Exactly and the corporate media are deathly afraid of having Citizens United overturned Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #34

That's a specific angle I hadn't thought of. libdem4life Dec 2015 #128

If congress goes along with Bernie. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #37

Only if we get a Democratic House and Senate Empowerer Dec 2015 #39

Nobody in the clown car want to see Bernie. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #35

That's precisely what Trump; is most afraid of and he knows Bernie's message can erode Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #40

Ok realism time. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #41

Absofreakinlutely! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #42

Wow! That would be incredible. I wish him luck! yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #43

You can tell how afraid they are by the fact that they've completely ignored him Orrex Dec 2015 #56

The corporate media keeps fear front and center, it's the meme of the day, but it's all about Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #58

That's a very different question Orrex Dec 2015 #59

Why hasn't Trump demanded that Bernie apologize for calling him a pathological liar? Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #62

Because Trump sees Sanders as insignificant. Orrex Dec 2015 #64

If Trumps sees Sanders as "insignificant," he would work to raise his profile Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #67

At this point you've resorted to making stuff up Orrex Dec 2015 #82

If Trump were to attack Bernie it would strengthen him and Trump knows it. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #89

You have no business telling anyone what "logic dictates" Orrex Dec 2015 #92

That's the difference between us Orrex, I'm operating from a level of reason Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #94

You do not argue from a position of reason. Orrex Dec 2015 #109

It all depends on the spin that the corporate media puts on those dynamics, Obama would be Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #112

Thanks for a dose of reality. grossproffit Dec 2015 #83

Good grief! I can't believe some of the nonsensical wishful thinking I've read here! Orrex Dec 2015 #84

It's a bit scary. grossproffit Dec 2015 #87

The trust issue may do Hillary in. jalan48 Dec 2015 #61

It certainly won't help her against Trump. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #63

So Trump is AFRAID of an insult by Bernie Sanders? brooklynite Dec 2015 #66

Actually it does make a sound but Trump is too afraid to venture into the woods. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #69

Haha.... quickesst Dec 2015 #70

The corporate media have certainly done their best to make that a reality, but Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #71

I'm sure he does quickesst Dec 2015 #107

he is not afraid of either Skittles Dec 2015 #72

Bernie is best positioned to do the most damage to Trump and Trump knows it. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #76

sure Skittles Dec 2015 #86

The thing is that Trump has called out for sadoldgirl Dec 2015 #74

Precisely, sadoldgirl as for the trust issue, they balance each other out and Trump can Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #79

Well, Bernie does look a bit like a Paulie Dec 2015 #91

I really don't think trump is afraid of anyone gwheezie Dec 2015 #95

We have asked the question "why do Republicans vote against their own best interests?" over and over Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #96

I doubt that gwheezie Dec 2015 #100

I agree. 840high Dec 2015 #98

That's for sure Uncle Joe. They want Hillary, Trump has said so as 'she will be easier to beat'. sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #101

LOL grossproffit Dec 2015 #108

Would you like a quote? Or some polls which clearly Trump is looking at? I think it's funny too sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #110

ROFLMAO leftofcool Dec 2015 #104

Trump doesn't bother with Sanders because he thinks of him as a gnat to brush off his shoulder. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2015 #106

K&R for exposure. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #111

Correlation, causation and all that n/t Godhumor Dec 2015 #113

Kick! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #116

Trump has no respect for women. Adrahil Dec 2015 #117

Lots of truthiness in your op. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #119

Truthiness doesn't mean that it's not true. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #120

And I think you believe that. We fully agree on that point. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #121

And I think you believe it as well but don't want to admit it. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #122

Truly one of the best things I have seen typed here. Thanks. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #123

Happy Tuesday to you, NCTraveler. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #124

Ah, but there's something to be said for senz Dec 2015 #126

True that. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #127

baloney Sheepshank Dec 2015 #129

Trump helps Hillary in the Primary when he attacks her, he won't mention Bernie's name even Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #130