2016 Postmortem

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122. Nice political rhetoric

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:35 AM

Dec 2015

Sounds like someone is thinking about how to appease their supporters once they are eliminated from the Primaries. It couldn't possibly be anything that Senator Sanders did... it was.... the DNC!!!.... yea, that's it..... the DNC stole the election.

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Bernie Sanders isn't letting go of data breach controversy [View all] madfloridian Dec 2015 OP

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #1

Interesting Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #2

There is ALWAYS something else that hasn't been revrealed. pangaia Dec 2015 #11

I'm sure he knows something unsettling about the firewalls conveniently going down also. -none Dec 2015 #93

DWS nephew is VP of NGPVAN AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #127

He's not her nephew. Maybe some other distant relative, but not her nephew. libdem4life Dec 2015 #141

He is according to Wikipedia Raster Dec 2015 #194

Well that's a strong case, I'd say. I read a couple of other "good sources" libdem4life Dec 2015 #196

Wikipedia must be wrong...Per Aharon Wasserman on Twitter: Raster Dec 2015 #202

I saw that...I'm tired of these "other shoes" that keep dropping. Do we have libdem4life Dec 2015 #207

Anyone can edit Wikipedia anigbrowl Dec 2015 #252

I would think the person himself would libdem4life Dec 2015 #256

That's what you would do, not necessarily true for others anigbrowl Dec 2015 #257

I know how Wiki works. But he is now a public figure and gets that question all the time. It's not libdem4life Dec 2015 #260

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. anigbrowl Dec 2015 #261

What an incestuous bunch they are. weknowvino2 Dec 2015 #183

Watch Hillary's eyes when she responds to Bernie's apology during he debate. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #195

"watch her eyes?"Please. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #199

AGREED... From Day ONE... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #97

Lots of speculation HRC staff was accessing the data breach too FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #15

It's not unresonable Scootaloo Dec 2015 #27

Apparently the vendor knew... PosterChild Dec 2015 #137

Unless they suspect.. cannabis_flower Dec 2015 #175

The blantant partisianship of DWS and the DNC favoring the Corp-Candidate is what is rhett o rick Dec 2015 #201

Sour grapes. eom. PosterChild Dec 2015 #206

The Oligarchy better be worried. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #210

that would be my first question. rurallib Dec 2015 #28

I am still receiving emails for the Clinton campaign that started on the day the firewall went DhhD Dec 2015 #43

By far your not alone FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #57

Bernies campaign is fueled by anger redstateblues Dec 2015 #80

Anger toward those who have shut the left, liberals, out. madfloridian Dec 2015 #120

Anger? chervilant Dec 2015 #135

+1 SunSeeker Dec 2015 #150

No, Sorry... Bernie's Campaign is Fueled By Knowledge, Trust, Understanding and Courage CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #270

You know, I got a call from the Clinton campaign last week... KansDem Dec 2015 #156

I think that maybe the reason Hillary liberalnarb Dec 2015 #69

Exactly. dflprincess Dec 2015 #77

PRECISELY CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #271

+ 1000 Karma13612 Dec 2015 #110

A lot of speculation by Bernistas. Nitram Dec 2015 #190

Most of the uninformed speculation is by Hillary supporters. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #197

Wrong. It is Sanders supporters who are indulging in groundless speculation... Nitram Dec 2015 #200

We don't know whether Clinton looked at Bernie's data. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #213

that's right. You don't know. Nitram Dec 2015 #218

and that is why Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #226

I agree, a full investigation is warranted. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #227

Thank you Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #229

Most of the uninformed speculation is by Hillary's supporters. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #209

Operative word: "speculation." Nitram Dec 2015 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #228

Go Review the first few minutes of the debate. Cheviteau Dec 2015 #112

Two months of illegally accessing Sanders data by camp Clinton, with the blessing of DWS? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #148

Betty, this is the kind of speculation I see on right wing media all the time. Nitram Dec 2015 #179

Ordinarily speaking: yes. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #181

By innuendo do you mean reports that the logs show that Sander's staffers... Nitram Dec 2015 #182

DWs should have bided by the contractual 10 day grace period, not run to the media. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #184

+1 - Gotta love how "Bernistas" are supposed to sit back and wait and see but cui bono Dec 2015 #193

Sander's camp knows something Mnpaul Dec 2015 #263

My opinion is that this is a mistake. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #3

A lot... madfloridian Dec 2015 #6

What are they suing for, though? BlueCheese Dec 2015 #9

Here's the text of the lawsuit. madfloridian Dec 2015 #19

Love how they referred to her as a Hillary supporter notadmblnd Dec 2015 #37

This deserves it's own thread FloriTexan Dec 2015 #61

Here's a link that confirms she was co-chair of HRC's 2008 campaign notadmblnd Dec 2015 #79

All that is left of the lawsuit is his claim for "damages" from the 1 - day denial of access. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #151

Howard Dean is supporting Hillary eom Progressive dog Dec 2015 #174

+1 n.t ejbr Dec 2015 #12

There is a very high probability that the DNC has been a bad actor during this primary. Maedhros Dec 2015 #17

FULL AND INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF ALL PARTIES FROM DAY ONE!!! CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #272

For the DNC to enforce the contract and secure the data. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #31

Are you a Bernie or hrc supporter BlueCheese... you've kept your journal empty so I can't see which Leftyforever Dec 2015 #67

Good question mhatrw Dec 2015 #86

Irreparable harm Samantha Dec 2015 #116

But they have access back. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #117

That was the really big important thing, but there are other things Samantha Dec 2015 #119

Okay, but what is the irreparable harm you're referring to? BlueCheese Dec 2015 #121

This is my thinking on the matter Samantha Dec 2015 #144

Bernie is not suing for defamation. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #152

Damage to reputation was defiitely mentioned in the court filing Samantha Dec 2015 #222

No it's not. I read the Complaint. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #231

Reread this line: Samantha Dec 2015 #237

It is still a breach of contract claim, not defamation. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #244

This message was self-deleted by its author Samantha Dec 2015 #250

My brain is not "fuzzed over." Bernie is not even party to the lawsuit. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #254

What can be gained? catnhatnh Dec 2015 #147

Do you think there are any Republicans running in the Democratic Primary? A Simple Game Dec 2015 #166

This is the right thing to do. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #4

And a tasty way to do it! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #23

Absence of malice Karma13612 Dec 2015 #114

Good eyes on DU! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #145

It was such a good movie full Karma13612 Dec 2015 #258

Yep, one of my favorites. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #268

Your caption: "I'm gonna have somebody's ass in muh briefcase" :) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #143

Highprincipleswork set me up for a Brimley double entendre. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #146

Slam dunk! highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #273

Nor should he. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #5

Oh that's lovely JackInGreen Dec 2015 #7

" ...starting from Day One in the campaign ..." knr nt slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #8

it garners lots of FREE publicity. too bad o'malley wasn't hacked lol nt msongs Dec 2015 #10

Yes! The integrity of the Party and the primary process BE DAMNED! Maedhros Dec 2015 #18

DWS has seriously undermined the integrity of the party and the primary process already. tblue37 Dec 2015 #103

After the HNC's shenanigans, who can believe that this Primary is being conducted Maedhros Dec 2015 #136

Whoa, watch this and then get back to me about free publicity. madfloridian Dec 2015 #20

What the heck? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #74

It shows DWS broke party rules while co-chair of Hillary's 08 campaign. madfloridian Dec 2015 #106

Damn right. Bernie isn't running and hiding because he knows he is in the right on this and on liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #13

In a best case scenario for Sanders mythology Dec 2015 #84

running and hiding Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #232

After Clinton's DNC maliciously tarnish his good name...You Bet. TheProgressive Dec 2015 #14

Important to refute claim that "Bernie stole data from Hillary" philly_bob Dec 2015 #26

Careful Bernie. When you jump a gigantic shark, the landing is none too pretty. oasis Dec 2015 #16

There's nothing pretty in any of this. madfloridian Dec 2015 #21

Yeah, fight after his campaign stole a bunch of valuable data. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #24

then Hillary's campaign should be anxious to have a full and independent Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #30

Because on 11/08/16, nobody will give a shit about this. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #33

I don't know about that ornotna Dec 2015 #52

:-) MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #56

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #71

I think it would be in the interest of everyone to find out what happened, who Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #60

Pretty much agree, but I don't really care. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #68

Then the proper response would be Android3.14 Dec 2015 #94

Agree. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #96

Nobody gives a shit about it now. murielm99 Dec 2015 #138

Carpenter, could you point me to someplace that says the Clinton campaign "doesn't want"... Nitram Dec 2015 #185

well, most of Secretary Clinton's supporters are certainly against it Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #188

My impression has beeen that Clinton supporters think an audit would be bad for... Nitram Dec 2015 #189

That's just it Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #36

The reason I want this to go away is because an internal party mud fight helps nobody. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #76

If it was an internal fight maggies farm Dec 2015 #133

What data, exactly, was stolen? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #41

A query was run on voter information for the fiorst 10 primary states. Nitram Dec 2015 #186

"Breached" and "Stole" are different words. What. Data. Was. Stolen. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #264

where is your proof of this so called valuable data? Dont post something unless you can back it up litlbilly Dec 2015 #48

You have a great handle! Very cute. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #54

But if you slay the dragon you may win the admiration of the kingdom. Got another one? n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #167

Re-taking back a Party Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #233

Santa as Bernie's alter ego eh? oasis Dec 2015 #259

Good for Bernie. He's calling DWS out on this one. jalan48 Dec 2015 #22

datagate totally backfired Robbins Dec 2015 #25

Oops! Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #29

Everywhere Clinton goes, chaos follows her... what the fuck is she doing running for Pres? whereisjustice Dec 2015 #32

sorry hill2016 Dec 2015 #39

No Matariki Dec 2015 #50

nobody stole anything, especially Bernie. It was a staffer and nothing was copied, downloaded, litlbilly Dec 2015 #53

Snopes explains the controversy here: JDPriestly Dec 2015 #83

...inconvenient facts. Much ado about nothing. The site said it, Snopes libdem4life Dec 2015 #205

Publicly apologized at the debate, privately not-so-sorry. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #34

"beacons of integrity and honesty" often demand truth. madfloridian Dec 2015 #38

Perhaps instead of attempting to sabotage the DNC and the Democratic Party NuclearDem Dec 2015 #47

Wait! you interpret that he's trying to sabotage the Democratic party? madfloridian Dec 2015 #55

...which would never have happened had his staffers not improperly accessed confidential information NuclearDem Dec 2015 #66

That is a whole lot of nonsense for such a short post. blackspade Dec 2015 #98

Every single word of every sentence is based on the facts at hand. Nt stevenleser Dec 2015 #165

So they should have known the firewall was down before they knew the firewall was down? A Simple Game Dec 2015 #168

Oh they knew where they were running queries all right. Nitram Dec 2015 #187

You have a much more jundiced view of the DNC and the Democratic Party Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #72

Can you cite examples of Bernie Sanders "playing the perpetual victim"? frylock Dec 2015 #230

Demanding the full truth is just that. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #40

He apologized because his staffer got into her shit 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #44

The breaches seem to be occurring because certain staffers with no integrity NuclearDem Dec 2015 #51

Please read the Snopes article: JDPriestly Dec 2015 #91

"Integrity" Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #64

Yeah, heaven forfend he wrest control of the party back from Third Way conservatives.. frylock Dec 2015 #235

Here is Snopes on the controversy: JDPriestly Dec 2015 #85

Screwed by your own words. Go ahead and tell me what Sanders thinks privately. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #211

A little sunlight should illuminate things. CentralMass Dec 2015 #35

Good. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #42

Smoke screen on their part. They already agreed to an independent audit of the system days ago.... George II Dec 2015 #45

That's the danger of allowing an "Independent" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #46

That's the problem, I think. If he's not considered a Democrat... madfloridian Dec 2015 #62

I think Bernie being an independent is actually going to help him. Independents will vote for him, litlbilly Dec 2015 #70

I have several independent friends in Oregon... Paka Dec 2015 #111

Come on ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #90

We should insure the integrity of the process Android3.14 Dec 2015 #105

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #107

That's a feature, not a bug. frylock Dec 2015 #238

What is that,supposed to mean? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #248

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #249

My Party is the Democratic Party ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #262

Lol you know that's not what an independent audit means. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #65

What are you talking about? eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #92

again, I just don't understand why one would assume that a fully independent Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #78

Because it shifts focus, attention and resources to ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #95

I think correcting any problems would be a good thing that can only help Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #109

Then maybe the DNC shouldn't have been in breach of contract. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #212

The DNC wasn't in breach of contract ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #220

The contract language isn't private. The fact that the contract was breached isn't private. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #221

B.S., while true ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #223

...or if Debbie hadn't run straight to the press. frylock Dec 2015 #239

Yeah okay. LOL n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #246

Thanks. n/t frylock Dec 2015 #247

This lawsuit can only hurt Sanders' campaign. joshcryer Dec 2015 #102

I would think ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #108

True, that. joshcryer Dec 2015 #149

It can hurt Clinton a lot more than Sanders. ucrdem Dec 2015 #171

Exactly. ucrdem Dec 2015 #170

To appease the left wing of the Party. .. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #173

Darn that "left wing" of the party....what good are they? Swat them with a fly swatter. madfloridian Dec 2015 #192

Yeah ... That's EXACTLY what I was saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #219

Sometimes the partisan house becomes so infested that there is no other viable solution. frylock Dec 2015 #236

"We had to burn the village, to save the village." 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #245

Yes, from day one! Wow, Bernie Sanders has our back! ViseGrip Dec 2015 #49

Exactly! Kick FloriTexan Dec 2015 #58

+1 Thanks for posting. eom Purveyor Dec 2015 #59

K&R LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #63

I'm just gonna guess the DNC won't be taking a run at Bernie's campaign like that again. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #73

Of course not. He needs to play the victim redstateblues Dec 2015 #75

He is just trying to nail his victim status down to R B Garr Dec 2015 #81

The Sanders campaign does not seem to be concerned about what will be PufPuf23 Dec 2015 #82

I like Bernie and I like Clinton katmondoo Dec 2015 #87

Vote for both of them, then. LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #162

I had really hoped the issue was over with Sanders' apology at the debate. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #88

How can certifying the integrity of the data possibly harm the party? Android3.14 Dec 2015 #99

This is Weaver, not Sanders. joshcryer Dec 2015 #104

It will become an issue of okasha Dec 2015 #269

Good for the Sanders Campaign. blackspade Dec 2015 #89

You know who has been disgustingly silent Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #100

I too am disappointed in O'Malley. Paka Dec 2015 #113

I don't know about "disgusting," as I had not thought about this before, SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #118

O'Malley is running for 2020 or 2024. LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #163

Why would he get involved in someone else's dispute? randome Dec 2015 #225

Weaver will drop the lawsuit. joshcryer Dec 2015 #101

Good. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #115

Nice political rhetoric postatomic Dec 2015 #122

We already know they are trying to do so and we will be damned if we will let them. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #124

Go for it!!! postatomic Dec 2015 #129

What did Senator Sanders do? frylock Dec 2015 #240

I find it utterly amazing that the same people that thought investigating Sanders was warranted Live and Learn Dec 2015 #123

including an investigation that would look just as deeply if not more so Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #125

I think we know why. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #126

If they are right about Bernie being Voldermort and Hillary being a great Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #128

I think they know Hillary is quite capable of playing dirty. They don't care. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #130

+1 We sure do. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #132

I think Bernie lacks understanding of power coalitions underthematrix Dec 2015 #131

I think you know damn well that Hillary has some dirty laundry to hide in this episode Live and Learn Dec 2015 #139

I'm utterly baffled that anyone can think this is a bad idea...Unless they have something they AzDar Dec 2015 #134

Yep, a few days ago it was a big deal,. Now it is , nothing to see here, move on. LOL Live and Learn Dec 2015 #140

Wow, things aren't breaking for DWS Babel_17 Dec 2015 #142

Good, there is something very strange about the fact that they did NOTHING when sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #153

This is bizarre behavior from Senator Sanders. Tortmaster Dec 2015 #154

He wants the issue resolved AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #157

My opinion is that all of this ... Tortmaster Dec 2015 #158

He is going through with it. AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #159

... to save face. Tortmaster Dec 2015 #160

Uh...what is wrong with that? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #203

The counter to that is that Hillary and Debbie don't want an investigation.. frylock Dec 2015 #242

maybe it will drive up his negatives among the 30% of registered democrats.. frylock Dec 2015 #241

In the Next Debate... gordyfl Dec 2015 #155

Bernie Sanders Apologizes to Hillary Clinton for Stealing Voter Data. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #161

Thanks for the reminder. Some on this thread seem to have a short memory. oasis Dec 2015 #169

If only that's what he'd said you'd have a point JackInGreen Dec 2015 #172

Right. Get the feds involved in a political squabble. Like that could turn out well. randome Dec 2015 #204

If the DNC hasn't done anything wrong, I don't guess they have anything to worry about, do they? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #214

Fishing expedition. Not unless someone has evidence of illegality. randome Dec 2015 #215

We have very compelling evidence that the DNC was in breach of contract. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #216

I disagree with the breach of contract. No one's access was 'terminated'. randome Dec 2015 #224

That's my opinion, as well. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #267

And, why the suit will be dismissed. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #266

Why blow up the Party to prove what was admitted? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #265

Yooge kick and recommendation! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #164

Good. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #176

He can't let go of it. We know there are still more bad apples in his staff. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #177

Go Bernie! Faux pas Dec 2015 #178

He should not until an full independent investigation is jwirr Dec 2015 #180

A door was left open and a Sanders campaign staffer walked through it Politicub Dec 2015 #191

K&R! KoKo Dec 2015 #208

DNC and Hillary can try to wipe their servers clean but not even Brawny towels are absorbent enough whereisjustice Dec 2015 #217

Whatever keeps Skidmore Dec 2015 #234

K.R 99Forever Dec 2015 #243

Someone did a thread stating this member had passed on? Is that correct? randys1 Dec 2015 #251

They said who had passed on. Who do you mean? madfloridian Dec 2015 #253

They said a member here died and I thought they used your name thinking it was you randys1 Dec 2015 #255