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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: One thing is for sure, Trump is afraid of Bernie, not so much of Hillary. [View all]Orrex
(66,708 posts)92. You have no business telling anyone what "logic dictates"
You assume your conclusion, and you ignore any argument contrary to that conclusion. You shun logic entirely except when you think you can frame it in a way that supports your candidate.
If Trump were to attack Bernie it would strengthen him and Trump knows it.
Seriously? What world do you live in where that's true or makes sense?
Record breaking crowds and numbers of contributions aren't propaganda, that's fact.
Here's why it's propaganda: the record breaking "numbers of contributions" is less significant, in real terms, than the aggregate dollar amount of contributions, and by repeatedly citing the record breaking "numbers of contributions," you hope that people will overlook this fact. It's lovely that he has so many contributions, and if this were the 2008 campaign at the tail end of eight years of a hated presidency and during a profound and long-term recession, then that might be enough, assuming that Sanders also has the support network to overcome Clinton and the GOP candidate. But this is not 2008, Sanders is not campaigning in the wake of the Bush nightmare, and he doesn't have Obama's network. Unless you account for all of that, then you are propagandizing, even if the claim itself is literally true.
And it's not just Jeb Bush, Rubio, Cruz and Carson have gotten more coverage than Bernie.
Irrelevant. Carson was running in close competition with Trump for several weeks, and he kept spouting such crazy nonsense that the media loved to put him on the air. Cruz is a serious contender for the ballot, so it makes sense that he be given air time. Bush is a legacy candidate, so he gets an automatic in. Rubio has been an up-and-comer for several years, and he's also perceived as offering the GOP an advantage among Hispanic voters.
In terms of click-bait media appeal, Sanders does not compare to any of those candidates. I'm sorry, but that's the truth.
You provided an argument to support my claim, the people in your workplace couldn't identify Bernie because the corporate media have tried their best to black out coverage of him and his message out.
That's not an argument in support of your claim, because your claim is that the media is afraid of Sanders, and I have pointed out repeatedly why that claim is nonsense.
Again and again--even on DU's front page this evening--Sanders supporters play the fear card, as if they truly have nothing else to offer. That's sad, and it suggests how they feel about their candidate's viability. As I noted before, it also serves as a preemptive strategy to rationalize his eventual defeat.
I'm done with you here. You're posting madness and claiming that it's logic, and it's a waste of my time to respond to nonsense with rational argument.
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One thing is for sure, Trump is afraid of Bernie, not so much of Hillary. [View all]
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
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By Trump's response he has the same motivation, that's why he called her out on a bathroom break,
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#4
If Bernie starts winning the primaries, Trump will have little choice but he's not going to do
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#29
That's totally subjective and the on line polls along with the focus groups in the first debate
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#31
Lots of Republicans donated to Nader's campaigns in 2000 and 2004. Republican strategists are
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2015
#57
Nader ran outside the Democratic Party, his poll numbers never approached Bernie's and yet
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#60
Oh it's fucking hilarious, isn't it? You don't find it a little odd that EVERY online poll
Ed Suspicious
Dec 2015
#73
P.S. Did you notice that Trump isn't calling on Bernie to apologize for calling him
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#45
"On the other hand Bernie can call Trump a "Pathological Liar" and from Trump all
sufrommich
Dec 2015
#2
Trump only insures that by not mentioning Bernie's name it's the name that shall not be spoken
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#14
That's irrelevant, Trump never had to worry about running against President Obama n/t
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#21
Trump; wants Bernie to be a non-factor because he knows his major trust issues become moot
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#16
That's right. Trump is not afraid of Sanders. All indications are that HRC will be the nominee. And,
Lil Missy
Dec 2015
#105
The online polls, record breaking number of contributions and Trump's fear of attacking Bernie
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#55
Trump is attacking Hillary because he has no fear of her, but he's afraid to raise
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#68
That's not how it works. Candidates don't waste money going after those who aren't a threat.
grossproffit
Dec 2015
#80
Trump has unlimited free air, the corporate media keeps him front and center night and day,
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#81
Trump is afraid of Bernie's poll numbers rising, that's why he doesn't bring attention.
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#90
He does and he's already said he wants Hillary to win the primary because 'she will be easier
sabrina 1
Dec 2015
#102
Precisely, such a race would have all the integrity of professional wrestling, and the paying fans
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#18
Exactly and the corporate media are deathly afraid of having Citizens United overturned
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#34
That's precisely what Trump; is most afraid of and he knows Bernie's message can erode
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#40
The corporate media keeps fear front and center, it's the meme of the day, but it's all about
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#58
Why hasn't Trump demanded that Bernie apologize for calling him a pathological liar?
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#62
If Trumps sees Sanders as "insignificant," he would work to raise his profile
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#67
It all depends on the spin that the corporate media puts on those dynamics, Obama would be
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#112
Good grief! I can't believe some of the nonsensical wishful thinking I've read here!
Orrex
Dec 2015
#84
Actually it does make a sound but Trump is too afraid to venture into the woods. n/t
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#69
The corporate media have certainly done their best to make that a reality, but
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#71
Precisely, sadoldgirl as for the trust issue, they balance each other out and Trump can
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#79
We have asked the question "why do Republicans vote against their own best interests?" over and over
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#96
That's for sure Uncle Joe. They want Hillary, Trump has said so as 'she will be easier to beat'.
sabrina 1
Dec 2015
#101
Would you like a quote? Or some polls which clearly Trump is looking at? I think it's funny too
sabrina 1
Dec 2015
#110
Trump doesn't bother with Sanders because he thinks of him as a gnat to brush off his shoulder. n/t
Lil Missy
Dec 2015
#106
Trump helps Hillary in the Primary when he attacks her, he won't mention Bernie's name even
Uncle Joe
Dec 2015
#130