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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Very disappointing: Bernie Sanders repeats falsehoods about data breach. [View all]BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)26. I would not call myself an HRC fan, unless I am also a Bernie Sanders fan.
And I would ask you to be specific as to what falsehood you think I'm spreading.
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Very disappointing: Bernie Sanders repeats falsehoods about data breach. [View all]
BlueCheese
Dec 2015
OP
"They said, "Hey, we got information from the Clinton campaign, we don't want this,"
sufrommich
Dec 2015
#1
You seem to have forgotten that Sanders brought the case to court, and DWSchultz immediatey
Cal33
Dec 2015
#42
Stole Clinton's records... No! "affected data was not exportable, savable, or actionable"
tecelote
Dec 2015
#89
"NGP VAN stated that the affected data was not exportable, savable, or actionable"
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#139
Right... I forgot... as a Bernie supporter, I must provide a Hill of proof to a scrap of rumor...
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#154
So you have evidence that a screen capture was done? NGP VAN says no data was tranfered.
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#181
Once you see the top line strategy, unless you remove someone's brain you have stolen data
Sancho
Dec 2015
#150
If I see the information on screen that I need to hurt you, I don't need to export it. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2015
#166
What did they see that would hurt Hillary? Have they used anything you know of?
tecelote
Dec 2015
#168
All explained in this excellent article by someone who has actually used the database
stevenleser
Dec 2015
#169
You can try and go with that if you want to. It doesn't come close to passing the sniff test. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2015
#172
That's not a non-answer. Sanders APOLOGIZED, and he did it because his people did wrong.
MADem
Dec 2015
#184
Please. The only people "making" this into something other than what it was aren't
MADem
Dec 2015
#214
Yeah, she lost so badly the Sanders campaign stuffed three of their own under the bus. nt
MADem
Dec 2015
#220
It looks like she wanted to avoid having to show up in court and having the whole case aired in the
Cal33
Dec 2015
#265
You're forgetting about the discussions between the three groups (HRC, Sanders, DNC) and the....
George II
Dec 2015
#188
The DNC, under Chair DW Schultz's rule, has become an embarassment, and there is a growing
Cal33
Dec 2015
#267
Stop confusing the issue with facts! Can't you see there's a narative that must be established here?
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#58
Nothing is always fair and balanced. But the Post is an excellent source of good news and facts.
Nitram
Dec 2015
#142
Many of the facts have been established...and they do support Bernie and the ongoing lawsuit.
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#144
You dont want to trust an IT person because he works for Bernie, fine... there are plenty others...
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#153
You have to admit, the staffers themselves aren't likely to be the best sources of infiormation.
Nitram
Dec 2015
#156
I dont know what "stanadard practice" is, but when a Computer Science Professor from Purdue...
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#159
Sorry, Bub, it's hard to take someone seriously when they have a huge pile of steaming shit on their
Nitram
Dec 2015
#162
It's okay. I don't care if your a third way fan or not. Or that you ignore CompSci professors...
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#165
You're right, I don't know you from Adam. As I said, I dont care if you're a 3rd way fan or not.
Bubzer
Dec 2015
#180
Right, so the vendor actually tried to give away Clinton's data to the Sander's campaign.
Nitram
Dec 2015
#111
Read the statement on the website of NPG Van, the vendor that made the mistake.
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#86
The statement I saw in a video was that they took information about the previous breach in
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#93
Yeah, sure, they don't want it but they spent almost two hours downloading and saving searches.
George II
Dec 2015
#187
No problem, I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong. The time report came out early and...
George II
Dec 2015
#223
Here is a source of some of the log posted on "crooks and liars", not the entire log.........
George II
Dec 2015
#225
Thus, This Thread By Blue Cheese Is Disconcerting/Problematic related to Its Inherent "Inaccuracy"
CorporatistNation
Dec 2015
#233
Because he is a class guy who does not support taking data from another candidate
daybranch
Dec 2015
#71
His "rogue" staffers and managers are out of control, but he doesn't seem to be able to bring them
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2015
#81
No. It's an accusation, and based on the evidence so far, it's becoming fact.
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2015
#193
+1, its like someone left their front door open & Sanders staff walked into the apartment knowing...
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#235
+1. Until that info comes along, I'll believe Sanders over anyone aligned with HRC or DWS. n/t
winter is coming
Dec 2015
#16
Indeed, I'll believe the unproven alleged liar over the proven liar every time n/t
arcane1
Dec 2015
#92
There is also the problem of why DWS went to the media with a "story" rather than
haikugal
Dec 2015
#30
I think most white wingers look at it as proof Democrats can't handle important things like cyber
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#29
I think you are ignoring this wouldn't have happened without Sanders' campaign taking data.
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#39
Firing when he got caught. Is this the kind of staffer we can expect from Sanders' campaign
Hoyt
Dec 2015
#61
An even handed, fair person would have handled it in house to protect the whole organization.
haikugal
Dec 2015
#33
I've tried to avoid bringing in the other half of this story, which is how the DNC has acted.
BlueCheese
Dec 2015
#47
Interesting but it's all part of the story...and at this time that's all it is.
haikugal
Dec 2015
#56
He did not need more than 40 mins to understand he was viewing data that he shouldn't have
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#237
The Sanders DD KNEW they were receiving information that they shouldn't be seeing and didn't alert..
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#236
They didn't need to either, the breadth of the issues could've been determined by the vendor and
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#244
"on it" doesn't address my claim of searches... they didn't have to pound the DB with endless
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#251
Let's have this genuinely independent and full auditing and investigation begin ASAP!
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2015
#18
No your wrong on record they both have asked for independent investigation
FloridaBlues
Dec 2015
#34
I am saying IF there is a conspiracy between DWS and Hillary to rig the primaries for Clinton
AgingAmerican
Dec 2015
#76
Given the the chairperson of the DNC is firmly in the Hillary's corner, how do we know.............
raindaddy
Dec 2015
#59
It is strategically designed to get the public on their side in terms of the lawsuit
emulatorloo
Dec 2015
#69
Maybe he should stop this insistence that it wasn't theft. it makes him look bad.
Laser102
Dec 2015
#104
Oh FFS. Sanders is no idiot, nor is the campaign's legal team. Try reading the lawsuit. And UNrec.
magical thyme
Dec 2015
#105
The October issue was another company, someone "deliberately" leaves door open to their apartment
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#238
I'm more speechless about the reaction of certain (not all) Sanders supporters.
BlueCheese
Dec 2015
#134
Regardless of which candidate you support, it was a huge blunder by DWS to make this whole
randys1
Dec 2015
#141
I was aware of the statement that they believed that there was an "unintentional transmission"...
BlueCheese
Dec 2015
#229
They did not need to gather this evidence for more than 40 minutes among 4 different people...
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#240
That's why they set up at least two new accounts, created folders, downloaded the results of....
George II
Dec 2015
#186
Thank you for this information, do you have a link to it? This to me puts this whole issue to rest..
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#243
THX!! ... wow... all SBS Datagate threads are dead... Sanders is getting bad advice on this issues
uponit7771
Dec 2015
#246
One other thing - they didn't merely take access away from "their" data, they took access away....
George II
Dec 2015
#189
Exactly. It was not a contract 'termination', it was a 'temporary suspension'.
randome
Dec 2015
#194
Very Dissappointing: Clinton supporter repeats falsehood in regards to data breach
notadmblnd
Dec 2015
#203
I do not believe it and I think it is gross an independent who bashes Dems walks in to use resources
seabeyond
Dec 2015
#215
Reading DU it's not hard to understand why this issue won't die, no matter how destructive
Number23
Dec 2015
#234
Sanders' already bad numbers have taken a hit. The press on this as I've shown you both
Number23
Dec 2015
#261