2016 Postmortem

Scootaloo

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126. I think the existence of security holes makes it a possibility

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From the horse's mouth: the NGP Van statement on the data breach. [View all] JDPriestly Dec 2015 OP

"Thanks for being rational" PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #1

Beat me to it! Matariki Dec 2015 #2

desperate to the point of being pathetic Doctor_J Dec 2015 #9

Bernie staffers EXPORTED data that was Hortensis Dec 2015 #176

funny thing is, this is related to benghazi questionseverything Dec 2015 #185

do you think Clinton stole data from Sanders in Oct? hill2016 Dec 2015 #3

I have no idea. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #12

the statement you quoted says hill2016 Dec 2015 #14

This has been addressed. NGP VAN was not the vendor during the October incident. Bubzer Dec 2015 #25

If that is the case... DUbeornot2be Dec 2015 #88

Maybe it is just hard to maintain the security. I don't know about that. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #98

Whoa, hold on there... We don't know why the DNC went with a different vendor. Bubzer Dec 2015 #167

Interesting. But screen grabs take a long time. Hillary, however, could have done that. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #190

+1 Bubzer Dec 2015 #193

You are correct. NGP Van was not the vendor in the earlier incident. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #94

I believe during Weaver's press conference he mentioned Jarqui Dec 2015 #156

Thanks! JDPriestly Dec 2015 #157

Sanders lawsuit will flush the truth out. floriduck Dec 2015 #26

Right. The vendor has more information than any of us. But there will be more on this, I feel JDPriestly Dec 2015 #100

From what I've read, Sanders campaign reported the October incident to the DNC. DNC owns the system; magical thyme Dec 2015 #29

Very possible. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #101

not any trickier than maintaining any "permissions" magical thyme Dec 2015 #133

Thank you. It is definitely the vendor's fault. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #136

Sanders campaign ejbr Dec 2015 #31

Either that or it was a completely different type of "incident" but they're talking about it to..... George II Dec 2015 #44

Well, Yeah... Cheviteau Dec 2015 #171

do you think pigs fly? azureblue Dec 2015 #55

ANYTHING is possible! RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #86

What The Public Heard Was That Sanders Team Cheated... As Hillary Team Screamed BLOODY MURDER! CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #92

We need an independent investigation. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #102

+1 n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #108

Sounds like the Benghazi committee creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #139

It was a big enough deal for the DNC bvf Dec 2015 #142

Temporarily creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #148

Access was restored *in the face of a lawsuit.* bvf Dec 2015 #159

bull. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #166

tazkcmo writes: creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #169

creeksneakers2 writes: tazkcmo Dec 2015 #172

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz pretty much alienated all Sanders voters with her reaction to this JDPriestly Dec 2015 #164

I agree that all voters should be respected creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #173

I think the existence of security holes makes it a possibility Scootaloo Dec 2015 #126

They have no proof, no indication that happened, nobody in the Sanders campaign is saying that.... baldguy Dec 2015 #168

LOL! "was provided". You make it sound like they gave it to Sanders. Stop covering for his KittyWampus Dec 2015 #4

Access to Hillary's information was provided by NGP Van, not intentionally apparently, but due to JDPriestly Dec 2015 #15

Access to the data was provided (accidentally) by the vendor, the data wasn't provided.... George II Dec 2015 #45

So now you have all the answers that no one else has? Perogie Dec 2015 #48

Here is the proof!1! PosterChild Dec 2015 #154

you have no idea at all azureblue Dec 2015 #56

Anyone claiming the Sanders campaign is totally blameless certainly don't. baldguy Dec 2015 #174

Like who said that? Surely was not a cover up. They reported it. Twice. libdem4life Dec 2015 #186

Who said that? Nearly everyone defending the theft perpetrated by the Sanders campaign. baldguy Dec 2015 #195

You could have saved a lot of time by just going to the vendor's website. libdem4life Dec 2015 #199

are you sure Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #80

Yes. They expected to get only their data, but they got some of Hillary's too. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #110

Ah! You want someone to thank you for being irrational. senz Dec 2015 #95

If I was irrational, I certainly wouldn't want to be thanked for it, but obviously I posted.... George II Dec 2015 #99

The NGP Van site describes the very limited amount of data that was "taken." JDPriestly Dec 2015 #104

No data was taken according to VAN AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #106

Their logs say otherwise - data was searched, downloaded, and stored in folders created.... George II Dec 2015 #112

Nope AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #117

Yes, the vendor has spoken, and spoken again: George II Dec 2015 #119

1 hour and 44 minutes is no time at all to review a database that large. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #121

No she promotes them JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #128

They weren't interested in reviewing the database online, that's why they performed.... George II Dec 2015 #138

To what location do you think they saved the results of their searches? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #153

I assume the vendor found this data on their own website. It was not exported from the website. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #149

And where were the files stored? On NPG Van's website. That's where. In plain sight. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #163

The searches that the Sanders employees made identified what information was Hillary's. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #150

Yes, that's why they call it the setup of permissions "provisioning". lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #87

Your language is much better than mine. It actually describes the process. Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #107

Let's keep this kicked up notadmblnd Dec 2015 #5

Amy Dacey, DNC CEO, says Sanders staffer: tried to delete notes . . . to hide his activities. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #7

I'm certain she has excellant database administration credentials notadmblnd Dec 2015 #11

Well I looked it up. zeemike Dec 2015 #53

Sounds like she doesn't have a technical background at all notadmblnd Dec 2015 #64

So in effect: Dacey is in the tank for Clinton? (as per establishment echo chamber) eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #158

My guess would be yes. zeemike Dec 2015 #170

that is important info zeemike questionseverything Dec 2015 #183

Well the founder of Emily's List, Ellen Malcolm zeemike Dec 2015 #191

Uhhuh JackInGreen Dec 2015 #37

But werent MANY here alleging NGP VAN were in cahoots with DNC and Hillary? randys1 Dec 2015 #60

allegations are just that. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #63

POINT? Either they are in cahoots, or they are the ethical company this OP clearly shows. randys1 Dec 2015 #65

It is yet to be proven notadmblnd Dec 2015 #67

They are. The name of one of the officers is Wasserman. That person is apparently related JDPriestly Dec 2015 #113

There is no relation. That has been thoroughly debunked. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #129

Thanks. Even I am guilty of misrepresentation. Whew! The gossip on the internets. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #134

LOL!!!! stevil Dec 2015 #146

Can you prove they are related? randys1 Dec 2015 #179

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #6

Down with the DNC/DWS and their connection to HRC. We need honest politicians, we are Democrats. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #8

It kills me zentrum Dec 2015 #32

The 1% owns the Party leadership. They aren't the real Democrats that will show up rhett o rick Dec 2015 #33

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #42

I'll second that! haikugal Dec 2015 #82

Frankly, I have always assumed the reason the Dem leadership and power players ignore the clear tblue37 Dec 2015 #122

Yep! And maybe that would explain why Gore treated his loss in 2000 like it was losing a rhett o rick Dec 2015 #151

I posted the same thing on FB... Bjornsdotter Dec 2015 #10

I'd like to know more about the October breach: which company was it, winter is coming Dec 2015 #13

We do need the audit. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #17

That's one of my favorite things about President Obama as well. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #19

did you watch the debates? hill2016 Dec 2015 #22

People who lie a lot are very good under presure. Bubzer Dec 2015 #27

Not how I see it. Sanders is passion about helping the 99%. Clinton smiles and gives nothing rhett o rick Dec 2015 #35

Sanders cares about the issues. senz Dec 2015 #103

Thanks for the op and posts Voice for Peace Dec 2015 #46

In times of a tendency for war maggies farm Dec 2015 #47

She and Obama and Kerry made big mistakes in Syria. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #115

and she is quick to portray herself as a victim grasswire Dec 2015 #83

That is what motivated this hasty accusation that has very little real substance. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #116

Absolutely! Great post!! haikugal Dec 2015 #84

As much as I like Gore, his main problem as a campaigner was being easily stampeded and tblue37 Dec 2015 #124

I'm with you on this. I'd like an independent.. one_voice Dec 2015 #105

yes after all this discussion, why do we still not know who the oct breach company is? questionseverything Dec 2015 #182

Really. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #189

You must be really tired of posting that link Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #16

Thanks. You are so right. I have posted it so many times yesterday and today. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #20

Thank You, bookmarked now n/t Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #34

See post #89. George II Dec 2015 #90

DURec for the TRUTH. bvar22 Dec 2015 #18

Yeah, Sad To Have To Say It... But I'm Most ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #93

I think many factors led to early endorsements. First of all, she had early dominance and a huge war tblue37 Dec 2015 #137

That Most Certainly Sums It Up... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #180

I hear Tennyson's line about "nature red in tooth and claw." nt tblue37 Dec 2015 #181

Pretty Scary Too... And One Not Often Quoted... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #192

Thanks for your post. I think it is our agreement with you about the cynical selfishness of our JDPriestly Dec 2015 #196

Thank you! nt LWolf Dec 2015 #21

K & R! SixString Dec 2015 #23

more from the Horse's mouth Progressive dog Dec 2015 #24

That issue is probably why Bernie fired someone. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #120

Thanks for the truth and for defending it! tecelote Dec 2015 #28

K&R emsimon33 Dec 2015 #30

k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #36

K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #38

K&R! I hope this post accumulates hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #39

Thanks for posting.... paleotn Dec 2015 #40

That statement was issued before they had a full understanding of the breach AND before.... George II Dec 2015 #41

" ... COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ... " Deny and Shred Dec 2015 #43

So Sanders over-reacted when he fired Uretsky, then. Right? randome Dec 2015 #49

That's what you got out of my post - okay. Deny and Shred Dec 2015 #70

An over-reaction creeksneakers2 Dec 2015 #147

Maybe if it had happened in Hillary's campaign, she wouldn't have fired anyone. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #125

Thank you. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #123

Brick walls in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #50

BUt I thought the CEO of NGP VAN and the company itself was in CAHOOTS with HIllary randys1 Dec 2015 #51

They have a business and reputation to protect! TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #57

Either they are in cahoots with Hillary or they are not, so which is it? randys1 Dec 2015 #58

I really don't know, but they could conceivably be TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #59

Dear god...sigh like I have NEVER sighed before randys1 Dec 2015 #61

I said I don't know. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #72

Of course DWS is behind HIllary, you could even say that is HER JOB given her JOB is to randys1 Dec 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author JDPriestly Dec 2015 #127

And thank you for the rationality! Duval Dec 2015 #52

K&R CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #54

From the other side of the aisle.. K&R Amimnoch Dec 2015 #62

Agreed.... paleotn Dec 2015 #71

It won't matter to the Hillarians shawn703 Dec 2015 #66

I find it disgusting - so tired 840high Dec 2015 #76

K&R nt magical thyme Dec 2015 #68

The MOST interesting thing about this whole shebang is.... AlbertCat Dec 2015 #69

Excuse my ignorance, I haven't really followed this story too closely. Uben Dec 2015 #74

Read the NGP Van website's blog on this. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #130

Hillary should apologize for going on TV and accusing Sanders camp of 'stealing'. That was a lie. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #75

When is that audit going to begin anyhow? Sanders is nc4bo Dec 2015 #77

She won't. 840high Dec 2015 #78

Well Bernie was certainly a gentleman, and Hillary is not acting like a lady, let alone a prez. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #81

Bernie tells the truth. I've 840high Dec 2015 #85

The establishment media provide errorneous information about the 2016 election campaign? Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #79

More "from the horse's mouth" - actual internal NGP VAN logs: George II Dec 2015 #89

I read comments this was reported in October and how bad NGP VAN is, looks like the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #109

Actually NGP VAN isn't as bad as some would like them to be, in fact they're very good..... George II Dec 2015 #111

It is about blaming someone or something else. Coverups are hard to walk back. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #114

NGP Van says it was not the vendor involved in the October breach. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #131

Welp, there it is then... they were viewing exclusive HRC data for nearly 2 hours !!!! uponit7771 Dec 2015 #118

Not very long for a database of that size in my opinion. Not unless you have a photographic JDPriestly Dec 2015 #132

Point being Sanders DD knew they should NOT have viewed the data at all and called the vendor the uponit7771 Dec 2015 #135

Hillary's data was mixed in with theirs. Why should they not have access to their own data. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #145

Bad analogy, they weren't in their "house" THIS db environment is closer to an apartment building vs uponit7771 Dec 2015 #160

From reading the vendor's statement on the website, there was data common to both or all JDPriestly Dec 2015 #161

They at the least could've filtered HRC data out in their quieries and didn't. There's no way uponit7771 Dec 2015 #162

I saw a list of some of the searches. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #197

They did NOT "call the vendor." The vendor locked them out after they realized MADem Dec 2015 #155

Kicky Poo. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #91

Let's get to the audit, quickly. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #96

Let It Go JDPriestly... They Have No Interest In The Truth... Only Winning. WillyT Dec 2015 #97

You left out the part about the voter file. joshcryer Dec 2015 #140

If you read the NGP Van blog, you will learn that the vendor was at fault. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #144

It's in the vendors best interest to downplay potential data retention. joshcryer Dec 2015 #152

Where's that pic of Hill's bus, where it says "Powered by NGP Van" SoapBox Dec 2015 #141

Because they have no interest in protecting their AllyCat Dec 2015 #143

You conveniently left out For clarification, NGP VAN played no part in the October data issue that Historic NY Dec 2015 #165

Actually, I believe I did mention that. I am trying to be fair and give everyone the benefit JDPriestly Dec 2015 #198

"NGP VAN played no part in the October data issue that has been mentioned by Sanders camp" riversedge Dec 2015 #175

I see the bare assertion. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #178

a software bug, like a developer said 20 years ago. "If you build it bug exploiters will use it" Sunlei Dec 2015 #177

Meanwhile the next day Sanders says on MTP Historic NY Dec 2015 #184

Politifact knows what happened? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #187

The truth needs to come out in a thorough investigation of the DNC's handling of these glitches. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #188

Thanks for the update. if their own DNC vendor says this, why would DWS so overreact? EndElectoral Dec 2015 #194