2016 Postmortem

DonCoquixote

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53. here is where that can sour

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:00 PM

Dec 2015

If Hillary supports war in Syria , well I can do it
If Hillary votes to let banks get whatever they want, well, I can do it.
If Hillary supports, the TPP, giving corporations power to take whatever they want, then I can do it.
If Hillary supports Keystone, than I can do it.
If Hillary supports outsourcing jobs

As someone who would have loudly and proudly supported Liz Warren, or any number of others when they run (Kathleen Sibelius, Kristine Gillibrand) then I have to say that just because Hillary is a woman should not empower her to do things that HURT women. It is the women that will get hit by war and a bad economy, while Hillary and her friend Debbie can sip champagne.

We do not give Maggie Thatcher a pass on that.

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"...I like Hillary Clinton. And I�m convinced that saying so can be a subversive act." [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 OP

Riding that horse all over this morning JackInGreen Dec 2015 #1

And clearly a hide worthy statement in the minds of so many Bernie Supporters Sheepshank Dec 2015 #6

Noooo JackInGreen Dec 2015 #13

You insight....lacks conviction, and veracity nt Sheepshank Dec 2015 #20

If you say so chummer JackInGreen Dec 2015 #22

Your insults are not all that clever Sheepshank Dec 2015 #39

You're the one who said berners would find it hideworthy JackInGreen Dec 2015 #48

So you actually want debate? Game on! Bubzer Dec 2015 #52

You think this is debate? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #58

Of course you wont participate. No hillary supporter can debate this list. Bubzer Dec 2015 #61

You keep thinking that Bub...of it helps to make you feel superior. Nt Sheepshank Dec 2015 #65

Only superiority of argument. But I'm not interested in that, I'm interested in healthy debate. Bubzer Dec 2015 #74

Wrong. okasha Dec 2015 #108

I'll have an answer for you come the new year. Bubzer Dec 2015 #114

Of course Hillary folks won't respond, they can't refute the list! #16: Sanders is honest, she LIES peacebird Dec 2015 #105

He lied about his son, girlfriend, wife. Control-Z Dec 2015 #115

He had his first son out of wedlock, so? How does that impact any of us? peacebird Dec 2015 #116

Chummer? You a shadowrun player? Bubzer Dec 2015 #56

Not in a long long while (Cept the steam release) JackInGreen Dec 2015 #57

What's a woolybutt? ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #34

Levity! :) JackInGreen Dec 2015 #38

Shadowrun ain't that bad Scootaloo Dec 2015 #40

Hell no JackInGreen Dec 2015 #42

Chum...bloody dead fish used for bait Sheepshank Dec 2015 #44

We're coming from two different places on Chummer JackInGreen Dec 2015 #50

And upthread you pretend to conflate shank as a butt, for the sake of levity? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #63

Okee dokee JackInGreen Dec 2015 #69

I won't be avoiding alerting on your insults in the future Sheepshank Dec 2015 #70

... JackInGreen Dec 2015 #72

Don't worry about it ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #79

I though a Sheepshank was a sailors knot? ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #78

It is a kind of knot JackInGreen Dec 2015 #80

I see ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #82

Not particularly JackInGreen Dec 2015 #84

Really good perspective. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #2

My favorite quote from the editorial. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #4

Supporting her has made me a better person. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7

I have decided to stick with love. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #11

here is where that can sour DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #53

"misogynist culture" earthside Dec 2015 #3

Especially to mysoginists. Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #27

Not much of a campaign slogan. earthside Dec 2015 #30

Your deep concern for the Clinton campaign is duly noted. nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #32

Banks and billionaires treat her well PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #5

Highlights the fact that Clinton is unlikeable. Android3.14 Dec 2015 #8

I think that the point of the OP flew BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #41

The Revolution's insular myopia is epic. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #93

We like who we like. nc4bo Dec 2015 #9

I like Olivia Munn, but that doesn't mean she should be President. n/t Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #10

I'd like to see Sloan Sabbith as President though. Maybe that was Warren 35 years ago. n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #28

Loved that character! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #43

Exactly.... msrizzo Dec 2015 #103

The faux victimization of Hillary Clinton has begun tularetom Dec 2015 #12

Eight years of it..... "You oppose this policy because you hate the first woman presdient" Armstead Dec 2015 #17

She will be written about positively in history books... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19

Plus also ponies for everyone. And cleaning products. bvf Dec 2015 #21

She's not going away shenmue Dec 2015 #46

Ah, the old false martyrdom/persecution act.... vi5 Dec 2015 #14

We have seen that before here treestar Dec 2015 #25

Project much? nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #33

I felt the same about Reagan once. Baitball Blogger Dec 2015 #15

You must be joking.. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #37

Nope. Hard to believe this hardass news junkie was once that naive, isn't it? Baitball Blogger Dec 2015 #92

Sorry but I can't forget the half a million people that were horribly killed in Iraq. How anyone rhett o rick Dec 2015 #16

Betcha voted for John Kerry, though. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #45

Inconvient truths ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #83

Indicating that others also betrayed the Democratic Party it isn't a justification for rhett o rick Dec 2015 #86

Are you saying that you did NOT vote for John Kerry? pnwmom Dec 2015 #88

I think supporting a gross defense budget while 50 million Americans live in poverty and rhett o rick Dec 2015 #96

But did you, or did you not, vote for Kerry in 2004? nt msanthrope Dec 2015 #98

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you too. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #99

"I never thought I'd see the day,, ,," okasha Dec 2015 #95

No matter how you try to spin it, no matter who else did things they shouldn't have, she rhett o rick Dec 2015 #97

Kerry voted exactly the same way she did but you don't attack him for it. pnwmom Dec 2015 #101

The corporate controlled DNC isn't trying to put them in the WH. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #102

The "corporate controlled DNC" tried to put Kerry into the WH in 2004. pnwmom Dec 2015 #104

Exactly. okasha Dec 2015 #107

A lot of people here seem to be blind to the connection. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #109

William Fulbright quickly regretted voting for the Tonkin Gulf Resolution HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #110

True. okasha Dec 2015 #111

I like Hillary Clinton too....Just not as president Armstead Dec 2015 #18

I've decided to stick to love... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #23

As long as it makes her feel good -- that's what is important. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #24

Many thanks to all the Sanders supporters NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #26

Nice Screen name.. catnhatnh Dec 2015 #31

Thank you! NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #89

I like Hillary Clinton too. But who I like doesn't affect who I vote for JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #29

Hell yeah ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #35

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #36

Thanks, DSB! BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #47

You're welcome./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #51

my my, some obscure nobody few have heard of stupidicus Dec 2015 #49

As a woman, I am SO liberated... Ino Dec 2015 #54

I imagine being a 1%er makes it a lot fucking easier. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #55

"she shouldn�t have to deal with all these byproducts of a misogynist culture..." whereisjustice Dec 2015 #60

LOL-the mainstream, Wall Street candidate as subversive? jalan48 Dec 2015 #59

Clinton is not a progressive - ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #62

I like Hillary Clinton riversedge Dec 2015 #64

I like you and Hillary, a lot. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #66

people may say mean and trashy things against her out of a place of hate MisterP Dec 2015 #67

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #68

K&R for my DU sisters n/t ejbr Dec 2015 #71

Thanks for your post! 40RatRod Dec 2015 #73

I chuckle at the "subversive act" zeemike Dec 2015 #75

I like HRC I'm going to vote for her. gwheezie Dec 2015 #76

I like that article. lovemydog Dec 2015 #77

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, Friend/nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #94

I like, admire and respect Hillary Clinton. Beacool Dec 2015 #81

This must explain the lack of bumper stickers, lawn signs, and vocal support Kalidurga Dec 2015 #85

President Obama said she was likable enough. Wise man. Autumn Dec 2015 #87

KnR. Happy Holidays, DemocratSinceBirth Hekate Dec 2015 #90

You like words DSB, so let's look at 'subversive' and the word 'subvert' Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #91

A happy kick. Alfresco Dec 2015 #100

Subversive? Depaysement Dec 2015 #106

weak. so weak. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #112

Where is the love? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #117

and a REC for the morning viewers. riversedge Dec 2015 #113