2016 Postmortem

JDPriestly

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41. Until Bernie says he agreed to Kroll, we should not assume that he did.

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 06:08 PM

Dec 2015

I think that is the point of the OP.

The DNC has been so heavyhanded in handling every issue, every plan, every organizational aspect of the primaries that we Sanders supporters have utterly no confidence in it.

Bernie has been giving speeches to audiences in IOWA at over a thousand people a speech. Who knows whether he has had a chance to respond to the DNC proposal?

Bernie is in demand. Poooooor Hillary! Her crowds are in the low hundreds. Bernie's -- over a thousand at a time.

If DUers knew Iowa like I know Iowa, those crowd numbers are amazing!

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Sanders DID NOT agree to a KROLL AUDIT -- hat tip 99th_Monkey [View all] grasswire Dec 2015 OP

He did agree to an audit. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #1

No Bernie has not... And most likely won't. Agschmid Dec 2015 #2

READ THE OP grasswire Dec 2015 #3

The OP does not support the claims being made Gothmog Dec 2015 #105

Speaking of proof ... exactly what "proof" do you have, other than ONE Politico sentence 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #6

My point is that Bernie agreed to an audit and never objected to the company carrying out the audit Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #10

PRESUMPTION grasswire Dec 2015 #15

you are the one making up the story Sanders objected to the company. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #68

The presumption is that... PosterChild Dec 2015 #78

Where is the objection by the Sanders campaign? Gothmog Dec 2015 #106

another PRESUMPTION grasswire Dec 2015 #16

We have to prove a negative to you now? Seriously? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #69

I like how grasswire replied to neither of your posts in this subthread. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #91

more likely 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #21

as we know agreeing to anything in principle is exactly like stupidicus Dec 2015 #25

True. nt senz Dec 2015 #60

I wonder why Sanders supporters would be suspicious of dirty tricks. The Oligarchy rhett o rick Dec 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Purrfessor Dec 2015 #53

The OP is arguing that he agreed to that particular audit, as another OP proclaimed. artislife Dec 2015 #71

I noticed that too. Wilms Dec 2015 #4

Exactly!! and thank you for pointing that out. This lie needs to be stopped 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #7

He will be asked at some point soon. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #5

It is NOT a CT to assert that a Kroll audit is like assigning the Fox to guard the Henhouse. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #11

just like the msm 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #22

As the race gets closer I am afraid we'll see more and more dirty tricks. The Oligarchy has rhett o rick Dec 2015 #35

+ 1 Sums it up. senz Dec 2015 #61

Rest assured, the oligarchs will stop at nothing. RufusTFirefly Dec 2015 #64

Thanks grass wire. That's how I read it to. haikugal Dec 2015 #8

I can't imagine that the Sanders campaign would like Kroll at all. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #9

Yes. Kroll is a corporatist "fixer", full of spooks-for-hire to "prove" whatever ... 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #12

That seems fair. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #43

Why is DWS/DNC living in the 20th century? aspirant Dec 2015 #13

DURec for the TRUTH. bvar22 Dec 2015 #14

Audit truthers. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #17

it just gets more and more ridiculous. Any company that was chosen would be suspect KittyWampus Dec 2015 #70

Mmm hmm. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #92

yep grasswire Dec 2015 #19

Yeah, he did agree. If he didn't agree, he would have piped up by now. MADem Dec 2015 #18

We simply do NOT yet know. I have NO reason to believe Sanders has agreed to Kroll. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #24

see my post #20 nt grasswire Dec 2015 #28

That could be the case. The fact that the lawsuit has not been dropped suggests that. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #34

Should Bernie's lawsuit proceed ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #65

If Bernie was going to withdraw the lawsuit, I think he would have done it by now 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #74

They have nothing to do with each other. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #75

Your speculation is duly noted. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #76

I've been a court reporter ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #80

Your claims to perfect knowledge about the future are duly noted. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #89

I made no claim to perfect knowledge about the future. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #90

What a weird (unsupported, and apropos of pretty much nothing) accusation! MADem Dec 2015 #108

People sometimes think ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #111

LOL!!!!!!! MADem Dec 2015 #113

This is the 21st Century. You're trying to suggest that Sanders and his people have known who MADem Dec 2015 #29

Your surmisals are just that. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #30

Again, "Berrrnie" is not an idiot. He can hire an independent auditor to work with MADem Dec 2015 #44

Agreed. Bernie is not an idiot 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #48

For your theory to be correct, you have to either figure that Sanders has the WORST MADem Dec 2015 #50

Based on current evidence, I am currently with you. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #67

Agreed. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #93

You are pretending that no one knows that DWS and the DNC will do anything to get HRC rhett o rick Dec 2015 #36

Look, when a candidate is losing, and losing badly, unable to grow his constituency, MADem Dec 2015 #37

The behavior of DWS and the DNC is typical of the corruption brought on by the Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Dec 2015 #38

Let us count the buzzwords. MADem Dec 2015 #46

So you spend time talking down Sanders supporters Furrfu Dec 2015 #54

That's a spurious, lame and false accusation. MADem Dec 2015 #58

So, Silence means OK? kartski Dec 2015 #26

Rationalization is the key to happiness for some. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #39

LOL, bernie isn't a victim, and he certainly isn't afraid to speak out.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #82

In this case? Absolutely. MADem Dec 2015 #97

Until Bernie says he agreed to Kroll, we should not assume that he did. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #41

I think until he gripes about them, we should assume he approves of the choice. nt MADem Dec 2015 #99

I haven't heard that he has dropped his lawsuit yet. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #102

His crowds peaked in summer, once people realized it was the same speech at every stop. MADem Dec 2015 #110

His crowds in Iowa are many times the size of Hillary's. Bernie is focusing on Iowa and JDPriestly Dec 2015 #112

Unlike other candidates, bvar22 Dec 2015 #42

The week passed BEFORE any "holiday." MADem Dec 2015 #98

re: "If he had any objections, surely he would have voiced them by now. " thesquanderer Dec 2015 #95

If he had any objections, and wanted to do something about them, surely he would MADem Dec 2015 #96

I suspect it's a trap for Hill. grasswire Dec 2015 #20

"evidence in hand" BOOM!!!! aspirant Dec 2015 #23

I suspect that is what the staffer who got fired was doing jwirr Dec 2015 #94

yes, he made no effort to conceal tracks grasswire Dec 2015 #104

That is what I was thinking... Kalidurga Dec 2015 #31

but hillarians all seem to agree -- only tinfoil-wearing conspiracy theorists dare question stupidicus Dec 2015 #27

Yes, that seems to be the Hllaryians' lie-of-the-day 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #40

indeed, some alarming stuff it is stupidicus Dec 2015 #49

Would there be an auditor suggested by Sanders? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #32

A court of law maybe???? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #45

That might just happen, a criminal investigation could follow. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #47

Not knowing all the details, I think it is more a contract dispute. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #55

Try these Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #59

Bernie's team did not illegally access the information. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #63

and when the firewall was down-Sanders little elfs went snooping riversedge Dec 2015 #101

If you found your neighbor's stuff on the floors and in the drawers at your house, JDPriestly Dec 2015 #114

oh snap grasswire Dec 2015 #52

The FBI would be acceptable to me Renew Deal Dec 2015 #83

This is not a criminal case. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #86

5 other firms have already been named as more "independent" choices for auditor 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #56

One of those on the "more appropriate" list gave Clinton a 325k speaking fee... Agschmid Dec 2015 #62

Yes, let's scratch that one. It wasn't my list, I borrowed it. Thanks for good catch 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #66

A very cursory look at those agencies reveals some problems. MADem Dec 2015 #72

Me either. Agschmid Dec 2015 #77

Named by who? Random people on the Internet? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #84

People who don't realize one of those crews gave a quarter million to the RNC... ~! nt MADem Dec 2015 #109

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #51

K&R Paka Dec 2015 #57

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #73

The ONLY legitimate alternative this bullshit so called objective audit.... PosterChild Dec 2015 #79

Is there any evidence that the auditor is questionable? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #81

absolutely grasswire Dec 2015 #85

Perhaps it was Karl n/t Oilwellian Dec 2015 #87

No, there isn't. Which is probably why Sanders didn't complain. MADem Dec 2015 #100

so you are fine with the DNC doing this important investigation.... grasswire Dec 2015 #103

They're not "doing this important investigation." They hired a firm with enormous international MADem Dec 2015 #107

Kick NT pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #88