2016 Postmortem

cascadiance

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109. Bernie is helping MORE Democrats PROPERLY standing against the TPP get elected far more than Obama!

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:25 AM

Dec 2015

Obama was working more with Republicans on that crap as were other CORPORATE SERVING and NOT people serving Democrats (who share that trait with corporate serving Republicans).

There are far more REAL progressive Democratic politicians that would feel more comfortable with someone like Bernie's progressive leadership than the lack of such from Obama in so many areas like so-called "free trade" and prosecuting less banksters in this last crisis than Reagan even prosecuted in the Savings and Loan crisis of his time.

There IS a reason why so-called "right" states like Oklahoma and Arkansas PASSED referendums to raise the minimum wage and at the same time didn't vote for or voted against DINO Democrats that DWS's DNC was trying to push on them! And this reason is why the party leadership NEEDS TO CHANGE if the Democratic Party wishes to regain its reputation as the people's party and not party working for the economic royalists that FDR won four terms consecutively fighting against!

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If the Democratic Party continues to go [View all] votesparks Dec 2015 OP

Bring that up to DWS and the DNC. Let's see what they think? nc4bo Dec 2015 #1

A Dem campus organizer I met this weekend votesparks Dec 2015 #3

Obama pulled the young ones too. We all had hopes then, older and younger.... nc4bo Dec 2015 #5

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Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #13

In fact, that dog just got put to sleep. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #17

MIRT team does a good job! nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #40

Young people don't vote... Sancho Dec 2015 #75

They made a difference in 2008. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #80

Not much. Sancho Dec 2015 #81

What made a real difference was... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #99

And you really hope..... daleanime Dec 2015 #86

No Sancho Dec 2015 #89

So you really hope.... daleanime Dec 2015 #90

No..you are making things up Sancho Dec 2015 #91

You say you hope.... daleanime Dec 2015 #94

I've been working with Democrats for decades... Sancho Dec 2015 #96

They did turn out in 2008. nc4bo Dec 2015 #123

My facts are the same as yours... Sancho Dec 2015 #125

But Obama is no Bernie Sanders demwing Dec 2015 #105

As Soon As You Saw Podesta Pull Up In The Limo In Front Of The WH 1/20/07, You Knew WE Were FUCKED CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #129

That's very encouraging news of campus support for Sanders, awesome. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #83

This is America safeinOhio Dec 2015 #2

Exactly Rebkeh Dec 2015 #4

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #6

Btw welcome to DU. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #10

As you no doubt always did in the past. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #11

Enjoy your stay... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #12

Annnnnd they are outta here :) Agschmid Dec 2015 #14

Well done, my dear Agschmid! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #15

Not me, but some good reliable MIRT folks! Agschmid Dec 2015 #18

Thank you--all is well with me and my family! Yay for MIRT folks! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #21

Merry Christmas from MIRT! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #20

Thanks, beam me up scottie! Merry Christmas to MIRT! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #22

Just doing our job, mam! Thanks! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #23

Thank you. Agschmid Dec 2015 #24

You're welcome. :) beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #25

Thank you and Merry Christmas. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #39

Same to you! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #50

think that was an all-time land speed record for 'stoning. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #16

Well when it's that clear... Agschmid Dec 2015 #19

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #8

What proof do you have of this? Indydem Dec 2015 #26

So, where are the FDR's of today taking on the economic royalists the way he did? cascadiance Dec 2015 #28

Who taught you history? Indydem Dec 2015 #29

I study history of spoken word!!! A clown? I think one that's a clown denies SPOKEN WORDS!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #30

Propaganda is hardly needed... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #106

You don't like social security, public education or other SOCIALISM in our country? cascadiance Dec 2015 #107

WHAT PEOPLE WANT! is .... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #112

And real studies have been done that show your OPINION to be WRONG!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #113

This is not MY opinion... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #116

Then why do they vote for Koch supported candidates that made their money from COMMUNIST money... cascadiance Dec 2015 #117

You miss the point ... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #120

Again, here's an ARTICLE not just my opinion... cascadiance Dec 2015 #122

The article you shared is very interesting.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #124

Blah blah blah. Indydem Dec 2015 #126

Blah, blah, blah too... cascadiance Dec 2015 #128

"no US politician has ever been as far left as Sanders"? What clown taught you history? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #32

LOL HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #59

LOL, Guss Hall . ... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #102

Was Eisenhower too "extremist" for you? He's more "socialist" than just about anyone but Bernie... cascadiance Dec 2015 #108

I think the question was .... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #110

No, as I noted Bernie says Eisenhower was MORE SOCIALIST than Bernie in his tax policies... cascadiance Dec 2015 #111

Cadence, may I quote you? You said... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #114

Polls showed Clinton also heavily ahead of Obama too! How'd that turn out? cascadiance Dec 2015 #115

As far as OPINIONS go, my ..., reACTIONary Dec 2015 #118

Sorry but this article has polls that show Bernie beats Republicans MORE than Clinton does... cascadiance Dec 2015 #119

Nope, I won't deny... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #121

I meant politicians that mattered. Indydem Dec 2015 #127

Bernie is NOT a "fringe candidate" HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #130

No, you said "No US politician has been as far left as Bernie Sanders" HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #131

Who taught you history? Mr. Peabody? HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #60

Who taught you history? Bill O'Reilly? nt Chef Eric Dec 2015 #98

"You Bernie folks want to compare them to Marx." Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

That's an incredibly ignorant post. Scuba Dec 2015 #36

+++++++++ newfie11 Dec 2015 #38

What passes for the Democratic Party today is unrecognizable from the Party I joined in the 60s. bvar22 Dec 2015 #77

So, were these young republucans.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #103

I compare them to LBJ and Carter. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #87

That is assuming that infusing the party with new blood is wanted. zeemike Dec 2015 #27

I've been saying this for years. We want Democrats, not Republican-Lite Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #31

Yes Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #34

and yet they claim it is the left of center progressives that hurt the party. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #35

The party is moving left firebrand80 Dec 2015 #37

The base has been left of the party leadership since the Kochs and Bill Clinton founded the DLC. Scuba Dec 2015 #44

Just one: how do we dislodge DINO-Debbie? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #41

your post presumes that they want to win Doctor_J Dec 2015 #42

What does it mean when someone can't tell the difference between a noun and an adjective? baldguy Dec 2015 #43

For many of us, it was never about party, it was about polcies and principles. I don't cheer .... Scuba Dec 2015 #45

And how does Pres Bernie get his policies crafted into legilation & passed baldguy Dec 2015 #46

How does Hillary? when Dems keep losing seats due to DWS policies? bahrbearian Dec 2015 #47

Bernie Sanders: "I will not make that mistake." Scuba Dec 2015 #51

Bernie doesn't have coattails. baldguy Dec 2015 #52

Well, chasing the mythical "moderate Republican" has gotten us ... Scuba Dec 2015 #53

And that's happened because progressives have been led to believe that both parties are the same... baldguy Dec 2015 #54

What do you think makes it a "lie"? Corpo-Dems are indeed just Repuke-lite. Scuba Dec 2015 #56

The belief of which has led to the situation you complain about. baldguy Dec 2015 #61

I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean. Please try to be more clear. Scuba Dec 2015 #62

The "both parties are the same" meme is a RW lie baldguy Dec 2015 #63

They clearly are not the same. Scuba Dec 2015 #64

You're trying to make a distinction without a difference, yet allowing the damage to be done. baldguy Dec 2015 #66

The damage is being done because the two parties are too much alike ... Scuba Dec 2015 #67

Your argument just proves my point. baldguy Dec 2015 #69

Cheeezus H. Kriste, Harry Truman wasn't a a right-winger! Scuba Dec 2015 #70

Harry Truman never heard of Paul Weyrich. baldguy Dec 2015 #72

Hey, have a great and safe holiday. Scuba Dec 2015 #73

And yet by objective measures mythology Dec 2015 #82

Which party leadership wants to rein in Wall Street? Neither. Which party leadership ... Scuba Dec 2015 #84

If there is a massive turn out that gets Bernie elected. That will be the mandate, and with Snotcicles Dec 2015 #74

If you want to look at someone who didn't have any coattails, HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #95

So yeah ablamj Dec 2015 #97

Bernie is helping MORE Democrats PROPERLY standing against the TPP get elected far more than Obama! cascadiance Dec 2015 #109

The real question is how does SENATOR Bernie . .. reACTIONary Dec 2015 #104

+1000.nt ecstatic Dec 2015 #133

I heard a remark on some show last night that America is a "center right" country. Vinca Dec 2015 #48

I have been a Democrat all of my life, I will remain a Democrat, Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #49

At the local level, the party is withering votesparks Dec 2015 #55

Well said. Simple and accurate. nt Zorra Dec 2015 #57

Remind me who won in 2012, with the same alleged pro-corpoate policies being implemented brooklynite Dec 2015 #58

The DNC is committing political suicide AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #65

Sounds exactly correct to me Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #68

OR... maybe the more moderates joing the Democrats and shift it's balance HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #71

Just one question, "Why do you hate tyranny?" nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #76

Nice succinct summation of the 2015/16 Democratic Primary. Thank you. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #78

You nailed it, votesparks! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #79

Mandatory Voting. People will be required to vote for a candidate from either corporate based party. raindaddy Dec 2015 #85

To hint at (but not bring up for discussion) the obvious Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #88

they sold their soul during reagan to survive, but reaganism is dying. pansypoo53219 Dec 2015 #92

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2015 #93

And give up all of that MONEY??? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #100

The DNC DWS DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency, The Panic Is Theirs cantbeserious Dec 2015 #101

Is being anti-corporate part of the democratic platform now? ecstatic Dec 2015 #132

No, it's pretty much unchanged over the past 30 years Recursion Dec 2015 #134