2016 Postmortem

Chan790

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67. No.

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:34 PM

Dec 2015

Hillary's feminism is a diseased, elitist feminism. It's predicate in the rights of women to be exploited equally by the bourgeoisie; it's all dandy and women are getting ahead if they're being equally exploited in the labor market, by the oligarchs and by corporate interests. (As I snidely put it last year...Hillary's America is a place that values "choice" so that you can return to the factory line faster after your unintentional pregnancy problem and continue to wage-slave for the benefit of the oligarchy.) Any suggestion that Hillary actually embrace feminist issues that put her at-odds with corporate interests are quickly shouted down as being attacks on her personhood or because she's a woman. If anything, this is disqualificative of Hillary actually being much of a feminist at all.

More clearly, anybody supporting Hillary is by definition not a socialist, no matter how much they may think they're a socialist. Hillary is as radically anti-socialist concerns as any Republican.

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"Why This Socialist Feminist is for Hillary" [View all] pnwmom Dec 2015 OP

Her avowed socialism is utterly unrelated to her wholly based gender argument cali Dec 2015 #1

Right. Because an article that doesn't support your views is clickbait. pnwmom Dec 2015 #2

No. Because the author implies by the title that her socialism is germane cali Dec 2015 #3

Haha! That's how I consider a lot of other original posts here. lovemydog Dec 2015 #17

Nailed it. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #19

So the only possible choices are Fiorina and Clinton? SheilaT Dec 2015 #4

No other woman Democrat is running other than Hillary. Warren is a pipe dream for many, pnwmom Dec 2015 #5

But the article implies that a feminist must vote for a woman, SheilaT Dec 2015 #7

No, it doesn't. The writer wouldn't vote for Fiorina,, for example, pnwmom Dec 2015 #9

She doesn't support a truly living wage. SheilaT Dec 2015 #12

HRC claims to be a feminist farleftlib Dec 2015 #20

Hillary wrote and introduced the Paycheck Fairness Act. But you wouldn't know that, would you? pnwmom Dec 2015 #22

From her website? farleftlib Dec 2015 #24

You spoke of her policies. Her website discusses her policies. pnwmom Dec 2015 #34

Biased much? farleftlib Dec 2015 #38

Please demonstrate that with her actual vote record. Ontheissues.org pnwmom Dec 2015 #40

Something Akin To Obama, Hillary's Actions Do Not Match YOUR Description. A Better Descriptor CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #6

absolutely correct! ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #10

Hillary is whole subsidiary of Wall Street. JRLeft Dec 2015 #8

Who do you want interpreting Wall Street regulations Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #11

How do you think Bernie's top choices will get approved by the Senate? pnwmom Dec 2015 #13

But but the bully pulpit! As if. redstateblues Dec 2015 #15

had he used his mandate in 2008 and doggedly spoken truth to power he would have accomplished more zazen Dec 2015 #27

He didn't squander anything. He never had the 60 vote majority in the Senate pnwmom Dec 2015 #31

he didn't have to trade out his transition econ team to Geithner, et al zazen Dec 2015 #39

How will Hillary's? Do the republicans like her more? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #29

The person I was responding to thinks that Bernie's appointments would be better pnwmom Dec 2015 #33

They would be better. "But the Republicans...!" isn't a refutation of that Scootaloo Dec 2015 #35

We could have a Democratic Senate after the next election. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #66

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #14

As a democratic socialist and feminist lovemydog Dec 2015 #16

Nice comment! BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #26

Thank you my united nations pal. lovemydog Dec 2015 #30

Thank you and I wish the very same to you and yours, lovemydog! BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #37

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #18

I will vote for Bernie because he's a progressive and a Socialist. Not because he's a man. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #21

I am a male social democratic feminist and I'm for Hillary, too... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #23

this is so defeatist--"no mainstream, electable candidate" can "realign US priorities & politics" zazen Dec 2015 #25

Bravo! Nedsdag Dec 2015 #32

This should be a a thread of its own. Bravo farleftlib Dec 2015 #36

This writer put many of my feelings into words, in case you are interested, zazen. pnwmom Dec 2015 #41

this piece deserves a thoughtful reply . . . I'll get back to you soon, and thanks n/t zazen Dec 2015 #43

single issue voter are killing the fight for change SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #28

Deja Vu? I get the feeling I've seen this same post before. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #42

It's a recurring theme. GoneOffShore Dec 2015 #45

So, we should all vote for Hillary sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #44

I think she will work to further a feminist and humanist agenda, pnwmom Dec 2015 #46

Let's hope so. sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #47

She could have saved herself a lot of work and just wrote "because she is a woman" Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #48

She wouldn't vote for a Republican woman. And we don't know if there pnwmom Dec 2015 #49

The entire piece, in summary, is "because she's a woman". Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #50

I doubt I'd be disappointed any more than I am about Obama. pnwmom Dec 2015 #51

Not supporting this particular woman in this particular primary isn't "pretending it isnt there", Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #61

Obama hasn't disappointed ME. I think he's done as well as any President pnwmom Dec 2015 #62

yeah, my line is that Democratic Presidents seem to disappoint me by not living up to my highest Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #63

I'm sure the women victims of the invasion of Iraq would agree. Vattel Dec 2015 #52

I am sure families who has lost female relatives to gun violence appreciate her Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #53

Maybe they are smart enough to know the huge difference between supporting invading Iraq Vattel Dec 2015 #55

I support Hillary Clinton for president because she is the most qualified Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #54

... yes! It's an easy decision for me as well! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #64

So basically the author is a sexist. vote for hillary because she's a woman......wow bowens43 Dec 2015 #56

No, because she's highly qualified AND a woman. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #57

how can hillary be a feminist when: hopemountain Dec 2015 #58

Your post contains too much misinformation to comment on. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #59

hillary does not lie? hopemountain Dec 2015 #60

For example, she is against private prisons and against the TPP. You ARE misinformed. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #68

from hearing her speeches, hopemountain Dec 2015 #71

When she was SoS as the TPP was still being negotiated, she had hopes pnwmom Dec 2015 #72

Great read ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #65

No. Chan790 Dec 2015 #67

This reminds me of the leftists during the Vietnam era who had the same point of view. pnwmom Dec 2015 #70

I agree. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #69