2016 Postmortem

rnk6670

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147. Absolutely Flawed Logic

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 10:39 AM

Dec 2015

No fucking way am I getting caught up in this false narrative. Part of the problem with our electoral 'system' is the bullshit 'choice' we're force fed by 2 independent organizations that completely control, along with the ruling class, our political destiny. I vote for people. My vote is a choice earned not a default position. Half ass corporatist pigs are part of the problem here. Then we get Obama, who whores himself out to Wall St., pushes for shitty free trade agreements, caves to the pharmaceutical industry and has the audacity to suggest that an income of 250k is middle class. LMFAO - no more! Hillary? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. I refuse to continue to swallow what the duopoly is serving. If Bernie isn't the nominee then I won't be voting major party as there is certainly not a current republican I'd let near my family let alone run my country. Quit propping this shit up.

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THIS. [View all] Triana Dec 2015 OP

absolutely Old Codger Dec 2015 #1

Yep. I will vote for whoever we nominate, as I have for decades. Shrike47 Dec 2015 #2

I will run, not walk, to the polls to vote for the nominee. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2015 #140

Not a good thing to brag about rnk6670 Dec 2015 #148

In the primary I'll vote "for", in the election I'll vote "against." Towlie Jan 2016 #157

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Dec 2015 #3

It's important that we separate the candidates from their supporters. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #4

I agree, but it is interesting to me how difficult that is to do. Vattel Dec 2015 #8

How do you view your fellow travelers? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #10

I find most of the prolific Sanders supporters to be Vattel Dec 2015 #11

Ok. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #14

Endless insults suck. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #13

Don't forget gun-toting. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #15

The only thing I tote is my little dog Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #17

Ok ... "And your little dog, too!" Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #18

I carry a Bernie Sanders tote Karma13612 Dec 2015 #41

But we don't have to support her - I certainly don't. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #20

You have the absolute right to vote Republican if that is where your head is world wide wally Dec 2015 #73

You didn't read the whole post - just the title. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #81

It's not her supporters tazkcmo Dec 2015 #99

both groups despise each other, it seems. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #34

I was trying to be balanced but agree that Sanders's supporters at DU are intolerable. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #35

Sanders's supporters at DU are intolerable. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #39

I like Bernie just fine. I have more reservations about Clinton. Sorry, but you misinterpreted Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #44

One minute and someone proves your theory, not a record but damn good. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #45

I take exception. John Poet Dec 2015 #61

K&R Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #5

Maybe in your state RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #6

That is how we got Reagan MiniMe Dec 2015 #9

In NY? I don't think so. eggplant Dec 2015 #19

Non-swing state: Agreed. But vote no matter what! cprise Dec 2015 #137

Oh, I'll definitely vote. Downticket is important. eggplant Dec 2015 #138

No. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #21

. baldguy Dec 2015 #26

That was a long time ago RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #49

A limited view. Jakes Progress Dec 2015 #143

The country was so sick mdbl Dec 2015 #149

I understand that NY is deeply blue, but Reagan won NY 2 times MiniMe Dec 2015 #28

It's not the '80's AlbertCat Dec 2015 #42

I'm not taking any chances. MiniMe Dec 2015 #47

I never said that I was sitting out the electioin. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #52

The oligarchy will only truly win if you let it and refuse to actually vote cstanleytech Dec 2015 #78

Thank you Skidmore Dec 2015 #59

The same people who made George Pataki a two-term Governor could help elect a GOP President. pnwmom Dec 2015 #25

Yeah, the RepubliCONs RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #50

Pataki was governor of New York for three terms. (eom) StevieM Dec 2015 #83

NY here as well. I am pretty sure the state will go for Hillary in the Primaries. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #43

I didn't say that I was not going to vote at all RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #48

NY is ALWAYS a battleground state. That's why you had two-term George Pataki. pnwmom Dec 2015 #53

Read comment 50 RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #54

That doesn't mean no GOPer will ever campaign there. There will be somebody pnwmom Dec 2015 #57

I HAVE analyzed the Patak campaign, RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #58

And those same people are there, and they still can vote. Don't people do math? n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #86

They are not voting for Patak. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #87

They could very well vote for Trump. Lots of Republican areas like him. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #88

Not in Westchester/Putnam my friend. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #89

The repubs are not going to leave any stones unturned in their quest to 'retake' the White House. mdbl Dec 2015 #150

THAT. nt Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #7

I agree, but we will have plenty of time to have that conversation once we have a nominee. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #12

Completely agree. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #36

Well said! mcar Dec 2015 #16

The posters that say that crap are just trolling. nt valerief Dec 2015 #22

Like Manny? baldguy Dec 2015 #27

LIKE MANNY!!!!! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #55

Manny's a wise guy. Everything he says you take with a grain of salt. valerief Dec 2015 #63

You are 100 percent Puglover Jan 2016 #155

Manny never said that. Feel free to prove me wrong by showing the post where he said that. Bubzer Dec 2015 #74

What Manny did was worse: baldguy Dec 2015 #90

Right Pharaoh Dec 2015 #23

Electing any Rethug will make it even more crooked. nt pnwmom Dec 2015 #24

In the general election, I'm voting for whoever wins the DEM nomination underthematrix Dec 2015 #29

You are 100% correct. Andy823 Dec 2015 #30

AMEN!!! underthematrix Dec 2015 #33

I'll be voting Democrat no matter what. Kath1 Dec 2015 #31

OK. This was good. You nailed it! BUT: Karma13612 Dec 2015 #32

Yes. Yes. Yes. I agree keep supporting your underthematrix Dec 2015 #38

Meh EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #37

Gosh, that would be a nightmare. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #46

Here's the thing EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #60

I do FULLY understand. Really, I do. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #85

THIS +1000 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2015 #40

Let's keep kicking this. Laffy Kat Dec 2015 #51

The ratio of Bernie supporters who say that versus Clinton supporters ecstatic Dec 2015 #56

No idea. I know I will vote for the DEM nominee whoever it is. n/t Triana Dec 2015 #64

Great! Way to go! liberalnarb Dec 2015 #62

Exactly. n/t TygrBright Dec 2015 #65

kick this I will SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #66

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Indepatriot Dec 2015 #67

Paul Weyrich (co-founder of the Heritage foundation) basically said how the RW wins AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #68

Perfect! dpatbrown Dec 2015 #69

I am going nuclear bl968 Dec 2015 #70

You do not belong on this forum, then Tarc Dec 2015 #72

You shouldn't let your ideology blind you to political realities. bl968 Dec 2015 #75

Political realities. baldguy Dec 2015 #98

You do realize that RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #134

You do not understand political realities. Jakes Progress Dec 2015 #141

Sad sad sad truth - and it hurts that they know it SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #71

GOod one, but put Cruz's face there if you really want to scare people. randys1 Dec 2015 #76

So be it. ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #77

People like you gave us Bush 43. iandhr Dec 2015 #106

And the jury results are in.... aikoaiko Dec 2015 #107

So you will support republican heavy? Jakes Progress Dec 2015 #142

See how well that BS meme has worked in the last 3 election cyles? well keep on spinning Vincardog Dec 2015 #79

People didn't vote. iandhr Dec 2015 #104

You can't blame the voters because the candidates refuse to offer a CLEAR DEMOCRATIC alternative. Vincardog Dec 2015 #108

I moved to Wisconsin to work for Mary Burke iandhr Dec 2015 #109

I am in Iowa, our choices are usaually between a real rw nut job Republican and a wishy washy Vincardog Dec 2015 #110

So ideological purity it is. Got it. iandhr Dec 2015 #111

If the choice is between RW nut job and RW moderate we are offered no real choice. Call Vincardog Dec 2015 #112

I rejet your assertion that Dems are right wing moderates. iandhr Dec 2015 #113

The Democrats I have been offered in IA are RW moderates. HRC is. I never said ALL Democrats are. Vincardog Dec 2015 #116

HRC is not a right wing moderate iandhr Dec 2015 #117

Where is She on re-regulating the Banksters? On ending the incessant unnecessary wars of aggression? Vincardog Dec 2015 #119

On bank regulation iandhr Dec 2015 #120

I wish I could rec this dana_b Dec 2015 #128

I think Bernie is a Democrat as I am. I don't believe that the corporatists who have staged a coup Vincardog Dec 2015 #131

K&R stage left Dec 2015 #80

I will absolutely vote! Maedhros Dec 2015 #82

It's not in your interests to keep the ACA, a woman's right to choose, raise the minimum wage... iandhr Dec 2015 #105

writing in.... n/t PatrynXX Dec 2015 #84

Bernie supporters are activists. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #91

+1000 nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #95

Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Dec 2015 #92

^THAT^ the_phantom_dennis Dec 2015 #93

+1 n/t Triana Dec 2015 #101

sorry not taking the bait. We're only allowed to talk about who we would vote for if liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #94

I think Trump would be thanking Hillary, DWS and a lot of Hillary supporters. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #96

2008 all over again... Stellar Dec 2015 #97

I will be voting for Bernie tartan2 Dec 2015 #100

Thanks, Triana! This nails it. eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #102

Bandwagon jumpers Jean Genie Dec 2015 #103

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 dbackjon Dec 2015 #114

Completely agreed! Xyzse Dec 2015 #115

Trump garauntees I won't be one of those people Bradical79 Dec 2015 #118

Unintended Consequence! cynzke Dec 2015 #121

This post screams.... BrainDrain Dec 2015 #122

K&R - Absolutely. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #123

I love Hillary AND Bernie... Satch59 Dec 2015 #124

I actually did for many years withhold my vote from my 'natural' party because of its LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #125

Patiently waiting for this meme Rebkeh Dec 2015 #126

Good one!! redstateblues Dec 2015 #127

K&R Jamaal510 Dec 2015 #129

So be it. I will NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton. urbuddha Dec 2015 #130

I hope you will rethink this if HRC is our party's candidate. CTyankee Dec 2015 #132

Except ..... ValasHune Dec 2015 #133

You must OBEY the Party Masters RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #135

Some in this thread: "You're welcome, sir, may I have another?" LadyHawkAZ Dec 2015 #136

What a thing to post on DU. Jakes Progress Dec 2015 #139

A wise choice. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #144

Kicked x 1,000,000 LW1977 Dec 2015 #145

No. This horseshit remains horseshit. Chan790 Dec 2015 #146

Absolutely Flawed Logic rnk6670 Dec 2015 #147

You get the gold star for the day... randys1 Dec 2015 #151

IMHO it's too early to start the "lesser of two evils" campaign. hughee99 Dec 2015 #152

I will work & vote for the Democratic nominee and fight to defeat the republican nominee. nt TeamPooka Jan 2016 #153

Asshat thinking. lonestarnot Jan 2016 #154

Completely silly BKH70041 Jan 2016 #156

NOPE I Will Never Ever Vote for the Lesser of 2 evils again. fasttense Jan 2016 #158

Unless you know of a 100% perfect candidate, you ALWAYS vote for the lesser of two evils. randome Jan 2016 #159