2016 Postmortem

ljm2002

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67. Well, see, the thing is...

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 01:44 PM

Dec 2015

...(a) neither he nor his staff ever called the staffer a "plant" (that was spin from the author of the article in question); (b) the Sanders campaign is keeping the civil suit alive due to the fact they were denied access to data that hampered their campaign, and also due to the fact that any investigation really should include the earlier data breach (regardless of which database was involved, it was the same basic situation and nothing was done about it nor was it made public with screaming headlines); and (c) no need to "plant stories" about Kroll, they are a well known "fixer" outfit.

I want a strong leader, not someone who will take attacks lying down. So none of this makes him or his campaign look bad to me.

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2 Faced Bernie Sanders: Part 1. The "I didn't mean the apology" edition [View all] Renew Deal Dec 2015 OP

K&R dlwickham Dec 2015 #1

Throwing out every tactic possible to avoid responsibility Sheepshank Dec 2015 #2

Earlier, there were posts about murielm99 Dec 2015 #3

I don't know of another "data company" being involved. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #6

Do you really think there is confusion? murielm99 Dec 2015 #30

No one would care if they apologized and moved on. Exactly. That is what is so stupid about their seabeyond Dec 2015 #33

+1000! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #41

VAN says on its website that it wasn't involved in the October incident. pnwmom Dec 2015 #97

This is the statement on VAN's website: pnwmom Dec 2015 #98

Kinda like being supportive of the whole email bullshit at debate, but was really him trying to seabeyond Dec 2015 #4

So have I Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7

Damn, I didn't know about your second example. JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #44

How many orphans did "this mistake" produce in contrast to the Iraqi orphans ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #5

Good point. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #8

We need to keep our eyes on the big picture and the enemies we are helping/helped to create ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #11

When you support a candidate whose poor decisions cost so much you have to manufacture scandals. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #12

Exactly this apology cost not one life and was the courteous think to do to another candidate slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #19

ZOMG! It's BERNGHAZI!!! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #20

And the number of dead or radical recruits = ZERO! n/t slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #22

I am not outraged at all yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #14

Was I talking to you? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #15

Oh funny. You think you pick and chose who replies to you? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #16

You took offense at something that wasn't directed at you. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #18

You think I look at who I am responding to? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #23

You responded to me, not the other way around. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #24

Did you gloss over the millions in Iraq that are orphans, displaced or dead because some memebers of slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #21

But Iraq is a business opportunity now! HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #10

I remember when she said that and literally felt sick to my stomach with pictures of maimed children slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #13

I felt the same way HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #60

Good luck with that. Sanders would use drones, just like Obama. He voted for every funding and seabeyond Dec 2015 #61

You should educate yourself about Bernie HoneychildMooseMoss Dec 2015 #62

I have educated myself on Sanders and his votes and positions. Hence, my ability to make the seabeyond Dec 2015 #63

We can strive for a better world, first issue is to stop making enemies and Sanders understands ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #75

There is nothing more pitiful ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #27

Pretend you are a parent and take a look at your child or a niece whose legs have been cut off ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #31

Your defense seems to be ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #36

Wrong, wrong, wrong and SO VERY WRONG .... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #39

So you're sticking with ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #40

The world does not revolve around HER. n/t slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #76

No, it doesn't. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #79

In case you failed to read ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #87

The OP is about Sanders. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #88

Sorry you fail to understand comparisons. n/t slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #90

Sorry you fail to understand ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #91

You dismiss millions of people who have been affected by her mistake ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #92

Don't tell me what I dismiss or don't dismiss. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #93

Almost LOL at your your reply, your responses make no mention of the millions who suffered, which is slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #94

It has nothing to do with "rules" ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #95

Yes, it would be hypocritical if Bernie was running as part of the democratic establishment daybranch Dec 2015 #52

Bernie IS running as part of the democratic establishment. murielm99 Dec 2015 #99

BS enid602 Dec 2015 #82

When we invade another country and kids watch their families destroyed we create enemies ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #89

He apologized to Hillary Clinton. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #9

Because they will say anything, no matter how untrue, in service of their candidate. Maedhros Dec 2015 #25

Sure is a mixed up world when an apology gets demonized and a speech and vote to an invade ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #26

Ignore them. draa Dec 2015 #29

Thx, I do most of the time :) n/t slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #34

Please Bernie. Do the right thing. The presidency isn't the oasis Dec 2015 #17

Lol... draa Dec 2015 #28

I don't think he is taking the apology back Kalidurga Dec 2015 #32

Who doesn't take responsibiltity for their actions?! Apologized and Fired people and now Cha Dec 2015 #35

Literally nothing you have just claimed is true. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #37

Check this out ... BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #42

Extremely weak sauce if one possesses critical thinking skills. GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #68

I was merely pointing out BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #69

Show where Bernie said those things, with exact quotes from him AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #38

The links are there Renew Deal Dec 2015 #57

I read the links AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #59

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #43

Bernie is power mad SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2015 #45

*yawn* - more camp Clinton efforts to pretend that the DNC didn't Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #46

More Camp Bernie pretending that his thieving staffers didn't do anything wrong leftofcool Dec 2015 #49

Oh look: it's a a strawman! eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #50

Who is the real Sanders? NCTraveler Dec 2015 #47

Great post. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #54

This can't be posted on its own because Gloria Dec 2015 #85

Let me know when you think he has as many faces as Hillary does. djean111 Dec 2015 #48

The desperation is oozing off of you. You would do just as well to admit you got nothing. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #51

He didn't call "the senior staffer in that role a plant." You are lying. Vattel Dec 2015 #53

His campaign did. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #55

I see no evidence that the claim in quotes is true. Vattel Dec 2015 #58

Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #56

Another Hillarian that doesn't understand... 99Forever Dec 2015 #64

Ha! Two-faced is "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is." You know, closeupready Dec 2015 #65

OP Post FAIL Matariki Dec 2015 #66

Well, see, the thing is... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #67

I'll anxiously await Part 2 with fear and trepidation Armstead Dec 2015 #70

lol Renew Deal Dec 2015 #71

hopefully, despite differences... Armstead Dec 2015 #72

See? I agree. I said that only this morning about two other Duers I respect and appreciate. seabeyond Dec 2015 #73

This guy reminds me of John Edwards more and more every day that passes. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #74

Nah, Edwards was more sincere...at least he came from Gloria Dec 2015 #86

Yeah and Bernie grew up priviledged in a Manhatten penthouse Armstead Dec 2015 #96

His father was a paint salesman and he grew up in Brooklyn Gloria Dec 2015 #100

Vote for Edwards then Armstead Dec 2015 #102

He's more like Ralph Nader... Walk away Jan 2016 #103

I'm beginning to think his campaign has morphed Gloria Dec 2015 #77

They are an angry bunch. redstateblues Dec 2015 #80

Exactly. MrWendel Dec 2015 #81

Anger will cost both Trump and Bernie. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #84

Really. Cha Dec 2015 #78

Here's another fakeout...return of the "audit the Fed" bullshit... Gloria Dec 2015 #83

OMFG. Phlem Dec 2015 #101