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stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
26. more meaningless garbage
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 02:07 PM
Dec 2015

that represents nothing but the dog bone I referenced, or when she's in the good cop role, as opposed to supporting say, bombing the Palestinians back into the stone age as the bad cop.

try again, no?

When Israeli forces attacked a UN school housing refugees in the Gaza Strip in July 2014, killing dozens of civilians, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) condemned it and the U.S. State Department issued a statement saying that it was “appalled” by the “disgraceful” shelling. By contrast, Hillary Clinton—when asked about the attack during an interview with The Atlantic—refused to criticize the massacre, saying, “t’s impossible to know what happens in the fog of war.” Though investigators found no evidence of Hamas equipment or military activity anywhere near the school, Clinton falsely alleged that Hamas was firing rockets from an annex to the school.

More tellingly, she appeared to argue that since Hamas had been firing rockets into civilian-populated areas of Israel, the Israeli government was not legally or morally culpable for their killing of Palestinian civilians, claiming that “the ultimate responsibility” for the deaths at the school “has to rest on Hamas and the decisions it made.”

In reality, however wrong Hamas has been in firing rockets into Israel, such actions simply do not absolve Israel of its responsibility under international humanitarian law for the far greater civilian deaths its armed forces have inflicted on Palestinians in Gaza. Indeed, it has long been a principle of Western jurisprudence that someone who is the proximate cause of a crime cannot claim innocence simply because of the influence of another party. For example, if someone starts a bar fight and a person ends up shooting him and a group of innocent bystanders, the shooter cannot claim innocence because the other guy initiated the conflict. http://www.juancole.com/2015/12/when-did-justifying-large-scale-civilian-deaths-in-bombardments-become-a-bipartisan-consensus.html

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If elected, Hillary would have to betray somebody. Scuba Dec 2015 #1
Or, "You gotta dance with them that brung ya". Fuddnik Dec 2015 #2
I sat with Molly and listened to Mike Moore at an event in Texas about 15 years age... SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #4
And if a candidate actively seeks Republican, LIbertarian, Teabagger votes, why would Sanders care seabeyond Dec 2015 #3
Bernie hasn't ever put social issues to the side. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #5
He has said it more than once, out loud, in speeches and interviews. He may not ever "put social seabeyond Dec 2015 #11
He most certainly did in 2006 dsc Dec 2015 #12
+1 appalachiablue Dec 2015 #32
like Obama did? stupidicus Dec 2015 #17
Ah,... The rationalism is in the scale of. So cause Sanders is incapable of large scale due to lack seabeyond Dec 2015 #18
meaningless garbage that is http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251950213 stupidicus Dec 2015 #22
Actually, yes. He did hold a "town hall" with the hooded ones walking into Liberty University. So, seabeyond Dec 2015 #24
sorry, your exaggerations are only a testimony about/measure of stupidicus Dec 2015 #27
Ha, right. seabeyond Dec 2015 #31
By all means, give a us a top post about how Liberty U students and staff stupidicus Dec 2015 #38
You did an amazing job of dodging the OP's question. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2015 #29
Like Obama and Hillary did in 2008 when they courted homophobic bigots? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #43
No candidate should be trusted (nt) bigwillq Dec 2015 #6
This. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #8
false equivalency? demwing Dec 2015 #34
Can you tell me who in the race is leading among union support and donations? nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7
It's reasonable to assume that one major reason for those endorsements, is cali Dec 2015 #9
So your answer to the question is Clinton? NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10
Er, actually. MisterFred Dec 2015 #42
I never said he didn't have any union support. In any way. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #44
I don't trust Hillary and never will. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #13
About as much as trusting a guy selling genuine Rolex watches out of the trunk of his car. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #14
Unions are corporations my friend...should a candidate fight for them? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #15
Spot on! Especially in relation to Hillary and the rest of the 'family' ViseGrip Dec 2015 #16
No this is one of those betrayals for the sake of big business. jwirr Dec 2015 #37
I expect Hillary to care most about Hillary stupidicus Dec 2015 #19
She has been advocating for the disadvantaged a lifetime. Facts matter. seabeyond Dec 2015 #20
more meaningless garbage stupidicus Dec 2015 #26
Spending her life helping others is meaningless? Whatever. seabeyond Dec 2015 #30
She renounced all advocacy for the disadvantaged with she helped form the DLC Ken Burch Dec 2015 #46
You cannot just change reality because you do not like the answer. seabeyond Dec 2015 #48
I was just pointing out what the reaity is. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #49
No you were not. Reality... She has spent her life advocating for others. From at least teenage year seabeyond Dec 2015 #50
Ken Burch, Reality Detective anigbrowl Dec 2015 #51
The short answer is "No" Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #21
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Dec 2015 #23
It's Delusional to think Hillary will cross her Corporate donars in favor of people Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #25
And they will lose behind the scenes just like they did with jwirr Dec 2015 #39
Because we are donors to Hillary also. Is supporting corporations like Lockheed Martin a problem? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #28
Uhm, who do you all think will lose? Haven't we seen this movie enough times. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #33
Corporate donations = garbage in, garbage out farleftlib Dec 2015 #35
why would anyone trust a person who works for a corporation as an employee to care about msongs Dec 2015 #36
This thread gets my vote for silliest outrage rhetorical argument of this election cycle. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #40
Barely top ten. Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #41
Super Tuesday won't end anything Ken Burch Dec 2015 #45
We can debate what makes the Top Ten ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #52
Jesse Unruh (1954)..... brooklynite Dec 2015 #47
It's the game at hand we need to play. FarPoint Dec 2015 #53
I sure would like to know. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #54
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