2016 Postmortem

CoffeeCat

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54. A lawsuit means nothing

Mon Dec 28, 2015, 02:16 PM

Dec 2015

The lawsuit is a red herring. Yes, Citizens United is suing her for records and emails during her time as SOS.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Hillary receives boatloads of money from corporations that have purchased her.

Nice attempt at a talking point though.

However, it makes absolutely no sense.

If you're going to push talking points, I would try to push something that isn't laughable. Hillary's record is clear. She's bought and paid for. Everyone knows that.

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Hillary, outspoken against Citizens United in early campaign speeches, vowing to overturn [View all] Sheepshank Dec 2015 OP

the group, Citizens United, yeah virtualobserver Dec 2015 #1

"Watch what we do, not what we say." n/t earthside Dec 2015 #2

It's not her money....until the law is in place there are no parameters Sheepshank Dec 2015 #3

"She cannot tell the Super PACS not to spend on her.." pangaia Dec 2015 #4

Concede? I guess you missed the word 'if' in my post. virtualobserver Dec 2015 #6

What SuperPAC advantage? SuperPACs benefit the GOP. Even if it were just based on self-interest, DanTex Dec 2015 #38

+100. This is American Politics 101. Hortensis Dec 2015 #73

It will take a constitutional amendment to change Citizen's United v. FEC Calista241 Dec 2015 #5

you don't have to ask.....you can know their general viewpoint well enough to ensure...... virtualobserver Dec 2015 #8

...while accepting money from super pacs. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #7

Hillary MAY put judges on the Supreme Court that wouldn't be swayed to be against CU. Dawgs Dec 2015 #9

I could just as easily say Sanders in place of Clinton. You have nothing to make a statement you did seabeyond Dec 2015 #11

Definitely have something. Dawgs Dec 2015 #23

There is zero chance that Clinton or Obama will not find a judge to do the same. Democratic issue. seabeyond Dec 2015 #25

Okay. Our opinions differ. Dawgs Dec 2015 #28

I do know that is cool. Further, i respect being in the position of saying, we merely differ in seabeyond Dec 2015 #29

you are wrong mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #87

I'm wrong about what? I said may. Dawgs Dec 2015 #90

It is and has been a Democratic issue. Not a Sanders issue. I heard from Clinton and Obama well seabeyond Dec 2015 #10

Well, then maybe in Your World he should go third party? BTW, Democrats are supported by Gold Sacks libdem4life Dec 2015 #68

He had corporate finance for his congressional wins. What are you going on about? seabeyond Dec 2015 #71

No one is disavowing corporate finance. Corporations also fund charities and local affairs libdem4life Dec 2015 #74

Pffft, Whatever. I cannot keep up with your guy's twisting and turning to make things fit. Done. Lol seabeyond Dec 2015 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #12

Clinton can't shut down Super Pacs....do you know what they are and how they are run? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #13

Or "cut your nose off to spite your face". Perfectly applies to Sanders to the point he sues 600K a seabeyond Dec 2015 #14

BTW... Sanders has a couple super PACS himself. Regardless of his rhetoric, they still live. seabeyond Dec 2015 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #16

That would be against the law if they are. Sanders did nothing special. seabeyond Dec 2015 #19

You are joking right? You really can't think that DU'ers are *this* ignorant? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #20

There are some that believe your title. They Say It, That Settles It. libdem4life Dec 2015 #69

I provided back up material...only asking the same from you Sheepshank Dec 2015 #70

So, opinions of posters aren't any good? That's my opinion. Deal with it. Answer it. libdem4life Dec 2015 #72

Hillary Clinton�s litmus test for Supreme Court nominees: a pledge to overturn Citizens United Gothmog Dec 2015 #17

With a Dem in office, replacing Ginsberg will be a wash Sheepshank Dec 2015 #27

Yup. Scalia is the most unhealthy person ever. Like Cheney, I do not get why these people live seabeyond Dec 2015 #31

Especially since CU was started to attack her Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #18

It's been troubling for CU that she is likely to be the Dem nominee Sheepshank Dec 2015 #21

Hillary's campaign is doing all it can to exploit the current system with shady cali Dec 2015 #22

Exploit that which is current legal? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #24

If everyone on the other side is using SuperPacs, it makes little sense for her to NOT use.... George II Dec 2015 #26

Hillary has zero credibility on this issue CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #30

You do realize that CU is suing Hillary? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #42

A lawsuit means nothing CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #54

CU benefits Republicans much more than any Dem Sheepshank Dec 2015 #56

Hillary is participating in the corruption CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #59

Then he will lose if he does not combat what the Repugs throw up against him. Not an option. seabeyond Dec 2015 #61

There no amount money that will help you win an election if you don't have message to energize voter Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #32

No...I reject your premise that Hillary should clip her own wings Sheepshank Dec 2015 #33

Are you saying say can't raise money with out big donors and SuperPAcs ? Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #35

I'm saying she should continue to work within the same game rules..... Sheepshank Dec 2015 #46

I personally could not respect the politician that would purposely put himself in a losing position seabeyond Dec 2015 #34

and I can't respect a politician Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #36

Being a woman, seeing the attack on women and girls to the point of them being jailed and dying, seabeyond Dec 2015 #39

where did I saywould prefer to lose ? or Do I prefer to fight without being influence by big money ? Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #47

Sanders has super pac acting on his behalf, Hillary has super pacs operating on her behalf, Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #44

To be honest with I dont believe her Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #52

In the same fashion every Constitutional amendment has been added. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #64

Is a RW super pac okay it it runs ads against Hillary to help Sanders? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #37

Bernie would say no, but a RW PAC would never listen to him. virtualobserver Dec 2015 #40

Got it, see, super pac are good. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #41

How did you get "super pac are good" from Bernie would say no to SuperPACS? virtualobserver Dec 2015 #43

Because he is receiving the benefit. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #45

Is a RW pac actually promoting Bernie? virtualobserver Dec 2015 #48

Yes Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #50

which one? virtualobserver Dec 2015 #53

Here Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #65

the RW PAC is not promoting Bernie....they are attacking Hillary virtualobserver Dec 2015 #66

Who is Sanders running against, just like the NRA ran ads against Sanders opponent Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #67

why do you waste your time typing things that you know aren't true? virtualobserver Dec 2015 #79

Except we know it is true the NRA donated $18,000 to help defeat Sanders Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #80

What I know is true is that Hillary supporters hold Bernie responsible for things out of his control virtualobserver Dec 2015 #81

Have you ever read a comment on DU about Hillary invading Iraq? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #83

she voted to authorize, and agreed with that decision for many years virtualobserver Dec 2015 #84

See, she did not make the choice to invade, that would be Bush, and she gets the blame. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #85

she supported his decision and continued to do that for years virtualobserver Dec 2015 #88

Excellent point....there is a trickle down effect. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #49

Exactly Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #51

Why would Trump voters listen to the GOP? puuuullllease..... virtualobserver Dec 2015 #55

I agree with you...why would they listen to Reince Preibus? Sheepshank Dec 2015 #57

they wouldn't do it, but also Reince Preibus would never say that.... virtualobserver Dec 2015 #58

I'm not a liar...there would be no cause for that in this thread Sheepshank Dec 2015 #60

your link is from May, and it has nothing to do with Trump virtualobserver Dec 2015 #62

current national report headline- SARAH PALIN BANS MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING BRISTOL PALIN virtualobserver Dec 2015 #63

Snicker...priceless Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #76

hey, you did a bang up job upping those post numbers Sheepshank Dec 2015 #77

It is pretty funny stuff I agree! Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #78

Excellent. lovemydog Dec 2015 #82

cheers, to you for posting mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #86

KICK! Cha Dec 2015 #89