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a geek named Bob

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75. sigh...

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:21 PM

Sep 2012

and cybercat fails to realize the idea of price/reward regarding political issues. If the people of NYC want, they can easily overturn the ban.

personally, I think your attempts to link liberals to silly issues makes YOU look bad.

Get a grip.

Us liberals have issues with a lot more riding on them, then your addiction to sugar water.

Seriously... restrictions on size of bought sugary drinks will be the thing that gets Romney elected? Get thee to a civics class! Finish school... you might learn something

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Large sodas are officially banned in New York City now. What the heck is wrong with people? [View all] Cybercat Sep 2012 OP

Actually the law does not go into effect for 6 months Drale Sep 2012 #1

Bloomberg thinks he is the greatest Nanny in the world. Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #2

Health Costs otohara Sep 2012 #70

NYC doesn't look like a joke --relax, it's one rule that isn't the end of the world CreekDog Sep 2012 #96

I'm not a Libertarian. sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #3

Nether am I but I don't want the fucking city telling me what i can and can't drink at certain place Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #4

Ever here of smoking bans? Many here support those as a way to make people sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #7

Of course iv heard of Smoking bans, we have a ton of smoking regulation in New York. Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #9

All I'm saying is smoking bans have withstood challenges in the courts. It has been sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #10

Smoking effects the people around you Drale Sep 2012 #11

Exactly! Somehow this ban rubs me the wrong way. I do have this notion of RKP5637 Sep 2012 #79

Airbags only affect you. Helmets only affect you. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #133

I would disagree Drale Sep 2012 #139

That's really stretching. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #142

Smoking bans are about second hand smoke! Cybercat Sep 2012 #12

Yes. RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #28

Outdoor bans in public areas are ridiculous though Mutiny In Heaven Sep 2012 #31

Yes... KansDem Sep 2012 #53

No, but I've had to pay taxes for the health bills jumptheshadow Sep 2012 #137

Smoking bans are quite different fugop Sep 2012 #13

Yes you do. RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #29

No, many support them because they worry about their own lungs ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #117

I'm tired of paying extra insurance and taxes for people who aren't smart enuff to make good choices progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #15

AGREE 100% Iwasthere Sep 2012 #86

Sorry to hear about your sister and brther having cancer a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #87

tHANK YOU Iwasthere Sep 2012 #89

My wife and I grow a fair bit of our own food a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #90

Cancer has been around a long, long time Silent3 Sep 2012 #98

nice right wing talking points Kali Sep 2012 #95

i agree with you mgcgulfcoast Sep 2012 #20

"you people" fishwax Sep 2012 #5

The comparsion has a point. Cybercat Sep 2012 #14

Slipper slope??? a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #40

Taking away to right to eat junk food is a slippery slope in regards to other rights you may hold... Cybercat Sep 2012 #43

Then we are even a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #44

OK Cybercat Sep 2012 #51

actually... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #69

In psychology, they call what you're doing projection. Cybercat Sep 2012 #76

Actually... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #80

The basis of your argument has been hyperbole, straw men, insluts, hypocrisy, etc. Cybercat Sep 2012 #83

is that a promise? a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #85

taking away the right to eat junk food? What does that have to do with the NYC law? fishwax Sep 2012 #49

No one is "taking away to (sic) right to eat junk food" though. You just have to buy it in smaller MADem Sep 2012 #119

I understand it has a point. But it is ineffective because it is ridiculous. fishwax Sep 2012 #48

Bring you own container HockeyMom Sep 2012 #6

Many places in New York do not have free refills. Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #8

health laws do not permit bringing your own container. And man, if someone is that desperate... progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #16

"You people????" really? Nice way to make your DU debut. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #17

The you people... Cybercat Sep 2012 #21

My guess would be that "all the 'good ones' were already taken. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #18

The sodas are NOT banned, folks! Please get this straight. CTyankee Sep 2012 #19

It's still a civil liberty... Cybercat Sep 2012 #23

Buying a large soda is a civil liberty? n/t Indpndnt Sep 2012 #41

So... Cybercat Sep 2012 #45

You can still buy a soda. The size of that purchase in one container is not a civil liberty. n/t Indpndnt Sep 2012 #46

This is going to get overturned at some point.. Cybercat Sep 2012 #50

Democrats? Or Bloomberg, the ex-republican? There is a huge difference. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #55

Yes they are! Cybercat Sep 2012 #56

I think the law is ridiculous, but it's not violating anyone's civil rights. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #58

"There are no limits on your soda buying." Cybercat Sep 2012 #59

and your argument is silly... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #71

A geek named Bob can only make straw man arguments becuase he's not good at debating. Cybercat Sep 2012 #74

sigh... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #75

I have more education than you most likely. Cybercat Sep 2012 #81

(eyeroll) a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #84

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #88

So you are admitting that you aren't here to have an actual conversation. Interesting... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #91

ROFL jumptheshadow Sep 2012 #136

I agree with you that your argument is ridiculous a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #42

Cybercat, there is such a thing as a scale of priorities. I just don't think it is wise of us to CTyankee Sep 2012 #62

The small stuff matters. Cybercat Sep 2012 #64

It's still a pretty stupid law Silent3 Sep 2012 #25

But I can smell it. RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #32

An argument can and has been made that since drinking soda is linked with obesity, and CTyankee Sep 2012 #65

You have poor will power. Cybercat Sep 2012 #67

well, I chose not to smoke, too. But it was after many "tries" to quit and after it became CTyankee Sep 2012 #72

Many things are "linked" Silent3 Sep 2012 #94

your analogy doesn't work very well. Presenting kids with accurate medical information about CTyankee Sep 2012 #100

The analogy wasn't about parallels in efficacy Silent3 Sep 2012 #147

well, that's your opinion and you are free to advocate your heart out for large CTyankee Sep 2012 #148

I'd advocating *against* excessive imposed nannying. Silent3 Sep 2012 #158

The whole point to "pick your battles" is that you simply must put your energy into CTyankee Sep 2012 #159

So let me get this... RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #160

No, I'm just saying I rank my priorities and act accordingly. People may differ on their CTyankee Sep 2012 #161

Who's engaged in battle? Silent3 Sep 2012 #167

I am not going to argue with you on this further. I respect your point. CTyankee Sep 2012 #168

I understand that. My point is that I reserve my energy for battles I am CTyankee Sep 2012 #169

exactly, talk about distractions! LiveNudePolitics Sep 2012 #97

LiveNudePolitics... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #99

why not? LiveNudePolitics Sep 2012 #155

never thought I'd say this... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #157

Get past 15 posts before you try and troll DU maxsolomon Sep 2012 #22

I'm not a troll. Cybercat Sep 2012 #24

Then alert on my post and lets see maxsolomon Sep 2012 #27

Accusing people with vaild opinions of trolling is in itself trolling. Cybercat Sep 2012 #33

Queen Ann used "you people" when complaining to Robin Roberts -- who looked like she'd been BURNED MADem Sep 2012 #38

They're just words. Cybercat Sep 2012 #47

Dude. MADem is simply trying to explain to you why it's unwise to use the phrase as you did here. fishwax Sep 2012 #54

Words are words. Cybercat Sep 2012 #57

I'm not whining. You seem to be, though. fishwax Sep 2012 #60

I will dismiss it, because it's ludicrous. Cybercat Sep 2012 #63

I'm not surprised, Cybercat. fishwax Sep 2012 #66

Regardless, I removed the phrase, so I'm done replying on this offtopic subject. Cybercat Sep 2012 #68

You do not "understand how language works" if you double-down after being told you're stepping on MADem Sep 2012 #121

Words matter. "You people" is an expression by someone who believes they are superior to the people MADem Sep 2012 #120

Scream "Troll" at somebody that has a problem with being babysat? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #112

This topic was beaten to death on DU when it was 1st introduced months ago maxsolomon Sep 2012 #114

Judging from the number of posts, it's still an issue MercutioATC Sep 2012 #126

People can bring their own container, buy two sodas, and pour the soda into the big container. MADem Sep 2012 #26

How about diet decaffenated soda? julian09 Sep 2012 #34

The stupidity of the law is that they don't distinguish, apparently. MADem Sep 2012 #36

Actually, the stupidity of the law is that they enacted it. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #113

Well, I think the flip side of that is that some people don't like paying SSDI for personal MADem Sep 2012 #118

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone MercutioATC Sep 2012 #122

Naah. It's not a "slippery slope." Failing to belt your kid or put a helmet on them in situations MADem Sep 2012 #127

Wow. You actually WANT a nanny state... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #128

I think that the will of the people is what it is. I think if a critical mass of people in a MADem Sep 2012 #131

Foolish law. People can regulate themselves what they drink. Barack_America Sep 2012 #30

2L Sodas are sold at Supermarkets and the like which don't fall under the law. Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #35

Many companies are starting to change that 2L to 1.75L, in some markets. MADem Sep 2012 #37

I agree... richmwill Sep 2012 #39

It's just grand. atreides1 Sep 2012 #52

I'm having a grand old time... jumptheshadow Sep 2012 #61

I'll ditto to you jumptheshadow... SoapBox Sep 2012 #92

also... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #93

hey, maybe the soda companies will hire LiveNudePolitics Sep 2012 #101

Ha! Like banning a soda size can prevent diabetes. Jennicut Sep 2012 #73

but...but...but... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #77

I agree with your statement about carbs being carbs, esp. for people with diabetes. CTyankee Sep 2012 #78

And it's not just diabetes, it's obesity and other ailments... SoapBox Sep 2012 #102

Sorry but carbs are not all equal Egnever Sep 2012 #103

Of course. CTyankee Sep 2012 #115

If you want the 20+ ounces of high fructose corn syrup, buy 2 - 12 ounce drinks. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #82

If that is the case then what has this law accomplished ? Other than to fill landfills faster? Egnever Sep 2012 #104

ummm... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #105

I welcome the change because it will force the industry to provide smaller portions liberal N proud Sep 2012 #106

The stores carry what sells Travis_0004 Sep 2012 #108

All I ever see is the 20 oz bottles anywhere I go. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #116

Don't you fill your own fountain drink at a convenience store? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #123

Not every one can. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #124

You don't see a problem in reducing all of us to the lowest common denominator? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #125

Like I said above, you alway have the CHOICE to buy more. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #129

That's called marketing MercutioATC Sep 2012 #130

Marketing - not freedom of choice liberal N proud Sep 2012 #138

It's a deterrent. Most people will NOT buy multiple drinks. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #134

People consume dramatically more when offered more. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #151

Look for "Mayor's Combo" (two 16s for the price of an old large)... JHB Sep 2012 #107

So let me get this right.... SmittynMo Sep 2012 #109

...sigh... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #111

In reality it is a stupid law. LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #110

Your slippery-slope argument does not hold up because nothing is being banned. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #132

Liberals aren't the same thing as North Koreans. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #140

No, nothing is being banned. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #141

Large sodas are being banned. That's like saying a large pizza ban is not a ban on pizza. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #143

And yet you have to articulate what exactly people are prevented from doing. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #144

They're prevented from ordering a large soda. Large soda is a thing. It's a ban. That simple. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #145

That wouldn't be a "ban" either. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #146

Large pizza is a thing. It would be a ban. A ban on a thing that is a certain size is still a ban. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #149

You can deny basic biology and pyschology all you want, but that doesn't change NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #150

A ban on large sodas is a ban, and it's still an idea based on utter condescension. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #152

Taking away choices? Not at all. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #153

Your argument is dishonest and easily deconstructed. A choice is being taken away. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #154

Your argument is now laughable to the point of absurdity. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #156

Obviously Bloomberg has stock in a company that makes these... jmowreader Sep 2012 #135

This just in... RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #162

Buy two. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2012 #163

for twice the price and twice the amount of paper and plastic trash. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #164

Not my nanny. Iggo Sep 2012 #171

It's bad for your health so why not ban it? Nobody should drink that stuff anyway rachel1 Sep 2012 #165

Maybe we should pass a law to make Rachel1 live in a bubble. RainbowUnicorn Sep 2012 #170

As not wearing a helmet or a seatbelt is illegal (in many states) because of the harm it does to... yawnmaster Sep 2012 #166