2016 Postmortem

Dem2

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103. OK,

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:45 PM

Dec 2015

Hey I can't stop people from posting lazy broad brush 'third way' smears, but it doesn't do an argument any favors. I mean haven't you essentially admitted that if somebody posts a position that you consider a 3rd way argument, that permission is then given to call them a 3rd way 'shill'? Many people say things that sometimes Republicans agree with, why don't you just call them Republicans? Seriously isn't it more grown up to just make arguments without the smears that are little more than an ad hominem?

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O'Malley and Dean lied. Simple as that. [View all] cali Dec 2015 OP

That's just "Third Way" O'Malley doing what he's paid to do. Scuba Dec 2015 #1

I don't think you know what Third Way means. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #5

"Third Way" Dem2 Dec 2015 #9

They scatter such things about like birdseed. A little here, a little there. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #13

LOL...my favorite was the post railing against the "fascist oligarchy" Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #23

That was a good one! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #26

I just randomly clicked on that after reading this. The thread was completely debunked Dem2 Dec 2015 #35

This one? George II Dec 2015 #67

And don't forget ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #55

:-D NurseJackie Dec 2015 #58

Wrong. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #31

Centrism. Just like DLC. Due to that article he co-authored with Harold Ford. Titled Snotcicles Dec 2015 #32

Wake up. It has its own website. senz Dec 2015 #41

I went to the website ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #61

Duh, perhaps the commenter was suggesting senz Dec 2015 #76

Oh ... Okay. The world is so much simplier when viewed through a binary victim frame. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #78

Whew. Didn't mean to arouse defensiveness. senz Dec 2015 #80

Project much? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #81

LOL, come on. senz Dec 2015 #89

There was no "perhaps" in the statement that started the sub-thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #96

Now you're getting very ad hominem. senz Dec 2015 #98

LOL ... ad hominem ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #104

Heh, wrong senz Dec 2015 #106

Your post #98 belies you brave words in post #106 Sheepshank Dec 2015 #121

Is that your expert opinion? Nt Bonobo Dec 2015 #139

I'm not an expert; but, I have plenty opportunity to observe, record ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #141

Yeah and I have my own website too Dem2 Dec 2015 #68

Okay, last attempt to enlighten you... senz Dec 2015 #75

That's right, go the old ad hominem route Dem2 Dec 2015 #82

Okay, maybe they can read the Wikipedia article. It's interesting. senz Dec 2015 #87

How many times do I have to read about that essentially defunct organization? Dem2 Dec 2015 #90

Uhm kenfrequed Dec 2015 #91

The organization is irrelevant and essentially defunct Dem2 Dec 2015 #93

It isn't defunct kenfrequed Dec 2015 #97

Never had a discussion with a 3rd way supporter Dem2 Dec 2015 #99

Uhm... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #101

OK, Dem2 Dec 2015 #103

It isn't an ad hominem kenfrequed Dec 2015 #105

"third way is very real and holds disproportionate clout within the party" Dem2 Dec 2015 #110

So does Space Jam. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #116

lol! lovemydog Dec 2015 #130

There's Bernie's way..and everything else is the third way...simple! Sancho Dec 2015 #34

You cannot make it go away by laughing at it. senz Dec 2015 #44

Thanks for making my point... Sancho Dec 2015 #51

Education is your friend, Sancho. senz Dec 2015 #59

I do not know if you mean to jest daybranch Dec 2015 #64

This is an unusually pleasurable subthread with my morning coffee Hekate Dec 2015 #115

If you were Bernie Sanders... quickesst Dec 2015 #2

Crickets! FSogol Dec 2015 #22

On a positive note quickesst Dec 2015 #29

He will do it, right after... bvar22 Dec 2015 #120

It's something I think he would want to address quickesst Dec 2015 #122

Perhaps they're busy driving a Mattel car Hekate Dec 2015 #118

LOL. Cricket cars could explain the driving I see each day... FSogol Dec 2015 #119

Does he even know this is going on? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #126

What? quickesst Dec 2015 #128

Bernie was not told about the data breach at first Renew Deal Dec 2015 #129

You are talking about something completely different quickesst Dec 2015 #140

Not true. We discussed that on DU when it happened. When DWS announced the rules, FSogol Dec 2015 #3

Sorry, it is true. cali Dec 2015 #6

This was entirely expected. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #8

I will take the side of Dean and O'Malley... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #4

Lol. The facts are clear and as stated in the op. No wriggle room on this one. cali Dec 2015 #7

Your angry rhetoric is not "facts." FSogol Dec 2015 #10

What angry rhetoric? This is fact: cali Dec 2015 #14

It is hilarious that the Sanders folks are getting upset today about a fact that came out in FSogol Dec 2015 #21

Why yes you can have it both ways. It appears that Bernie is tearing the party apart A Simple Game Dec 2015 #30

love the Peanuts Christmas scene. Laser102 Dec 2015 #70

Thanks. I put it in my sig every Christmas season. n/t FSogol Dec 2015 #73

I take O'Malley at his word on this one. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #11

You like O'Malley when you can use him against Bernie. senz Dec 2015 #47

I have always liked and respected O'Malley. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #60

Ha! That's a good one. tecelote Dec 2015 #20

Who are you kidding, NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #33

Precisely. senz Dec 2015 #49

"the evil socialist commie who wants to take your hard earned dollars so he can send Trumps kids to Nitram Dec 2015 #53

The country is to the left of where most people will acknowledge, but Sanders will not take us Renew Deal Dec 2015 #127

And under the bus they go! yardwork Dec 2015 #12

It is a matter of established fact. Here: cali Dec 2015 #15

Under the bus needs to be under the bus. n/t demmiblue Dec 2015 #16

Yes, it's getting old, fast. senz Dec 2015 #50

Too true kenfrequed Dec 2015 #62

And it was a planned and deliberate LIE. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #17

I used to like O'Malley. Now he's shown his true colors AFAIC. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #18

Mr 4% in the polls is gunning for the VP slot and has KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #25

I know, it looks like he's auditioning. Pathetic. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #28

If he is gunning for HRC's veep then he has chosen the wrong one because Bernie will be the one Hiraeth Dec 2015 #36

No one running would pick a Marylander to be VP. The reason? FSogol Dec 2015 #43

Castro, interesting. very possible. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #94

omalleys only function in this race is to split the anti hc vote questionseverything Dec 2015 #88

Then, why is he the 2nd choice of both HRC and Sanders supporters? FSogol Dec 2015 #111

Correct dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #124

The fact is it only benefits O'malley to debate only sanders JI7 Dec 2015 #19

He wasn't going to only debate Sanders, the plan was to invite all the Democratic candidates. FSogol Dec 2015 #24

Do you think HRC would have attended these hypothetical debates? Hiraeth Dec 2015 #37

Possibly. There were five candidates at the time. Would HRC really skip an unsanctioned debate if FSogol Dec 2015 #38

"I felt it was important to call DWS's bluff over the exclusivity rule." agree with that!! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #39

So you should be calling out HRC for not doing so dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #125

He has to play by the rules while he creates a revolution to change everything? FSogol Dec 2015 #142

Ridiculous and disingenuous, IMO dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #143

Uh... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #66

"Chaffee and Webb had already stated they were going to abide by the rules" Link? n/t FSogol Dec 2015 #69

Agreed. There are plenty of liars in Washington. Broward Dec 2015 #27

Once again one of the easily offended chose to alert rather than discuss. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #40

Thanks for the heads up. Broward Dec 2015 #42

Lame alert. FSogol Dec 2015 #46

How do you discuss anything with people shouting about liars? nt Nitram Dec 2015 #56

I wouldn't have alerted either, but I am curious as to who the liars are at DU. onehandle Dec 2015 #77

This sort of post only leads to the rest asjr Dec 2015 #45

Of course, only Sanders is truthful and honest. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #48

Yes, it's Saint Bernie vs the Evil "Third Way" Empire. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #57

Facts are facts. Don't like them? Too bad. cali Dec 2015 #84

Thanks for agreeing with. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #86

Interesting, that someone mounting a justice based movement ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #52

LOL, the amazing revolution that transforms everything, but doesn't break any rules.... FSogol Dec 2015 #54

I guess all those years in the"establishment" has made him soft. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #72

Careful, some people will start grinding their teeth... FSogol Dec 2015 #74

Or, unholstering their alert fingers! LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #79

So does this get added to the list of dishonest/baseless character assasinations by Hillarians stupidicus Dec 2015 #63

And we know they "lied" how? That's a pretty strong accusation to throw out... George II Dec 2015 #65

Dean, I know you are also from Vermont but I have no respect for him, he's lied many tines and Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #71

If the conversation between Dean and O'Malley... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #83

Look at all the eager Clinton and O'Malley supporters guzzling it up cali Dec 2015 #92

It's pathetic... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #100

Then when the MSM gets on to something like this INdemo Dec 2015 #85

It is nice to see those outside the "Bernie can do no wrong" bubble Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #95

Lol. It's funny to see those in the Hilly bubble denying clear facts. cali Dec 2015 #102

Your thread is about O'Malley. Did you forget? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #107

2 more well respected dems under the us without a word from sanders seabeyond Dec 2015 #108

Facts are facts. They lied. cali Dec 2015 #109

Bullshit. You call them liars without hearing an iota of comment from Sanders. Bullshit. seabeyond Dec 2015 #112

Dog shit. They omitted any mention of the exclusivity rule- and Martin and bernie cali Dec 2015 #113

And Sanders has omitted all this conversation. As I have said, I can see how all of them could seabeyond Dec 2015 #114

without hearing an iota of comment from Sanders. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #144

Not really, which is the isasue. Is he saying one thing public, one thing for supporters, seabeyond Dec 2015 #145

Not really, AlbertCat Dec 2015 #146

Well, how about that AlbertCat. We see it differently. seabeyond Dec 2015 #147

Facts are that you're wrong. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #132

Under the bus goes O'Malley?? ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #117

DWS and the DNC wouldn't have dared exclude Sanders from the sanctioned debates tritsofme Dec 2015 #123

Right and swampland in Florida right now would be a great buy. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #134

O'Malley told the truth. It's time to admit you're wrong. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #131

Nope, the Time's article doesn't negate the fact that MOM lied. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #133

Lied about what? It's matches what he said exactly. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #135

Not at all. MOM left out that he WANTS TO BREAK THE RULES of the party. Bernie doesn't. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #136

He doesn't want more debates Renew Deal Dec 2015 #137

LOL Really? The reason doesn't matter? If you want a cookie, shooting someone to get one is fine? Live and Learn Dec 2015 #138