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IllinoisBirdWatcher

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5. Another NGP SUB-system???
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:43 PM
Dec 2015

NGP advertises and provides a total turn-key "system" to campaigns.

In his public apology, the NGP CEO very carefully said "another system" and NOT "another vendor's system."

Campaigns use NGP for donor prospects, donor files, FEC compliance, broadcast email, website hosting, volunteer tracking and more. Most of these sub-systems, like The VAN, were developed by other third-parties and "integrated" to some degree in the NGP total campaign solution.

So if one or more sub-systems of the NGP provided software went down in October, it is most likely that the first staffer to notice and report would say something more like "NGP is down" or "NGP is acting weird" rather than saying "Gee, I'm getting too much information from the highly positive list in NH. There must be a bug in The VAN voter file."

No one seems to deny there was an NGP software problem in October. Where and what that problem was still remains a mystery. Still many questions to answer.

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Here we go again. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #1
If there is an answer, will you please tell me? pnwmom Dec 2015 #2
Would you listen any more than you haven't before? hobbit709 Dec 2015 #3
if you actually provide an answer. Apparently there isn't one. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #4
Another NGP SUB-system??? IllinoisBirdWatcher Dec 2015 #5
And was it a system owned by Bernie or by the DNC? This seems unclear, too. pnwmom Dec 2015 #6
From 2014...about Catalist and others who relay info to and from NGP VAN madfloridian Dec 2015 #8
^^^ thanks for this, madfloridian ^^^ Hiraeth Dec 2015 #12
Yes, all sorts of sub-systems and third-parties IllinoisBirdWatcher Dec 2015 #17
If it was not them in October as Bernie was paying for, who the hell was it? ViseGrip Dec 2015 #16
Catalist also has been connected with the DNC... madfloridian Dec 2015 #7
Ultimately, though, the onus is on the DNC... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #9
Assuming this wasn't part of a Bernie Sanders system. nt pnwmom Dec 2015 #11
If it had been "part of a Sanders system"... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #13
Weavers said that the data breach was done by a "low level staffer." pnwmom Dec 2015 #14
My comments have nothing to do with trust... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #15
Based on what facts? All we have from Weaver and Briggs are insinuations pnwmom Dec 2015 #18
That's why the Sanders campaign used weasel words when describing the sufrommich Dec 2015 #10
You need to read this. It's not just NGP VAN involved.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #19
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