2016 Postmortem

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86. It's actually about ethics, courage and intelligence

Wed Dec 30, 2015, 06:01 PM

Dec 2015

A trustworthy person must have the courage to stand for his or her ethics in order to use their intelligence to pursue the goals that match their values.

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I am supporting Hillary Clinton. Here's what I am not. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2015 OP

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2015 #1

Right. You're famously an "Ex" Freeper, though. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #2

I will admit that people can evolve. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #4

Hillary doesn't walk like a duck: She has walked as Dem for 30 years lewebley3 Dec 2015 #96

Did I mention her? PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #109

You implications were obvious:Hillary is the only on underattack here lewebley3 Dec 2015 #139

She walked the third way. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #137

She walked to a winning a Presidency: that helped build middle class lewebley3 Dec 2015 #138

Imagine my surprise at hearing from you... MineralMan Dec 2015 #8

You posted some very hateful things to that *other* site. Redemption requires repentance. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #10

You would prefer an ex-Trump supporter? Rose Siding Dec 2015 #22

Not if they had left a trail of hateful posts over at that "other" site, no. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #23

If listening to Bernie causes them to realise supporting racist misogynist Trump is a bad idea, then peacebird Dec 2015 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #32

Just to be clear, the "You" you refer to is Mineral Man, not me! Romulox Dec 2015 #34

Speak for yourself. Without the word 'nobody'. randome Dec 2015 #35

Today, he's one of DU's most conservative posters. Romulox Dec 2015 #37

.. ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #39

I wondered why to some he just wasn't annoying but harmless. artislife Dec 2015 #44

Very clever, that. MineralMan Dec 2015 #45

Mineral Man and I are leaning toward different candidates Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #85

That's like calling a Freeper a convert to socialism DFW Dec 2015 #76

Forever saddling people for past mistakes when they've truly changed is a vile thing to do. Zynx Jan 2016 #163

How very rude of you. You eliminated many of the names that I was going guillaumeb Dec 2015 #3

Why, the very idea! I'm on my landline phone calling MineralMan Dec 2015 #6

Thank you. Now I can tell my children that their parents are not the guillaumeb Dec 2015 #13

Raccoon shit. While visiting my MineralMan Dec 2015 #19

We thank you for your restraint. I will however forgive kicking a repug. Have at it! Laser102 Dec 2015 #66

How to stop at one kick? guillaumeb Dec 2015 #69

Understood. Laser102 Dec 2015 #72

You didn't cover "thoughtless"....."brainwashed"....."responding to name recognition"... brooklynite Dec 2015 #5

I didn't want to create a 'wall of words...' MineralMan Dec 2015 #7

What a great, great post. Thank you. nt Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #9

No. Thank you. MineralMan Dec 2015 #11

Down the list... Scootaloo Dec 2015 #12

Thank you for your detailed reply. MineralMan Dec 2015 #14

Not much time, actually Scootaloo Dec 2015 #18

Ouch. guillaumeb Dec 2015 #16

Bingo. Not everyone is light of heart, though. MineralMan Dec 2015 #21

I'll stand with you MineralMan SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #60

A vital important distinction, indeed DFW Dec 2015 #74

Pointing out that he doesn't understand the terms he's using is "caustic"? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #123

Can we award you the internets? Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #83

Look at the time and effort you put into a post by a person who supports BOTH candidates. randys1 Dec 2015 #104

Very little time, not much effort. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #122

Same here BainsBane Dec 2015 #15

As a childless old hippie, I thank you. MineralMan Dec 2015 #20

K&R mcar Dec 2015 #17

There is one part that makes no sense to me. Dawgs Dec 2015 #24

Clinton has a clear path to the nomination. MineralMan Dec 2015 #26

Clinton has a clear path to the nomination. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #41

I have no idea what you're talking about. MineralMan Dec 2015 #46

She might have won in 2008 if she had not been, in your own words at that other site Autumn Dec 2015 #89

Indeed she might have. MineralMan Dec 2015 #112

Your posts at that link and at your other place reveal the context. nt Autumn Dec 2015 #117

Fine, but you are the one that said that Sanders doesn't have a clear path. Dawgs Dec 2015 #68

I think it is because he feels the oligarchs don't want him zeemike Dec 2015 #101

Wait, there are still plenty more options! BlueCheese Dec 2015 #25

No, none of those, either. MineralMan Dec 2015 #28

Well, I'll keep looking. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #31

a true-blue Democrat who has spent four decades fighting for liberal causes. AlbertCat Dec 2015 #42

You know what is funny? I have been on DU for so long now (as in this election season) and read randys1 Dec 2015 #105

Because you are an old ass school marm wildeyed Dec 2015 #124

I whole heartedly agree with you randr Dec 2015 #27

I have friends who will be doing the same. MineralMan Dec 2015 #30

All that matters is that we hold the WH randr Dec 2015 #36

Well, we really need a Senate majority, too. MineralMan Dec 2015 #38

If it makes you feel any better DFW Dec 2015 #80

You get to talk with Russ Feingold? Cool! BlueCheese Dec 2015 #160

He called me! DFW Jan 2016 #162

Another reason to dump DWS randr Dec 2015 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #130

Why would you choose to support a candidate based in any way on a perceived path to the nomination? JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #84

I cant speak for the poster but in that comment I think he assumes that if Hillary receives that randys1 Dec 2015 #106

Kick, and rec. Agschmid Dec 2015 #29

The accusations puzzle me, frankly. MineralMan Dec 2015 #33

It's amazing how so many Sanders supporters can manage nothing but insults redstateblues Dec 2015 #43

Well, I'm not sure how many are doing that, really. MineralMan Dec 2015 #47

There are some good Bernie folks here, who wont insult you or attack Hillary. But we hear randys1 Dec 2015 #107

I <3 U NurseJackie Dec 2015 #40

Aww... MineralMan Dec 2015 #48

Lol. cali Dec 2015 #49

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan Dec 2015 #50

Why do you do this? MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #57

I won't argue with your points Plucketeer Dec 2015 #51

Well, I encourage you to give it your best effort. MineralMan Dec 2015 #53

A few of these terms Jamaal510 Dec 2015 #54

Me, too. They seem to be strictly DU terms. MineralMan Dec 2015 #55

I googled. wildeyed Dec 2015 #121

I totally wish I had picked Hippie Puncher wildeyed Dec 2015 #56

It's kind of a general term to be used whenever MineralMan Dec 2015 #58

I'm an aging punk. wildeyed Dec 2015 #64

LOL oh God, my friend the drummer from a Sac'to Band, THE FEATURES (70's/80's) randys1 Dec 2015 #108

One of my best friends in HS LOOOOVED wildeyed Dec 2015 #118

Nice post. Very sensisble and shows the wisdom of experience. K & R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #59

After all your claimed regret and apology you continue to be very kind to yourself regarding FR. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #61

My vote for Bernie ymetca Dec 2015 #62

You are also, intentionally or not, supporting these entities and their agendas: Maedhros Dec 2015 #63

Feel the burn Loudestlib Dec 2015 #65

so the only reason you support Hillary is: harris8 Dec 2015 #67

K&R! Happy to hear it. Laser102 Dec 2015 #70

But cannot see a path for him to the nomination? SmittynMo Dec 2015 #71

Excellent post and summary of the insults throw Clinton supporters' way. George II Dec 2015 #73

Sorry, but a presidential salary will NOT make you part of the One Percent RufusTFirefly Dec 2015 #90

You should check the US Census Bureau website - according to them a household income..... George II Dec 2015 #97

I would never call anyone any of those things based Rebkeh Dec 2015 #75

Thanks for your list of what you are not. bvar22 Dec 2015 #77

Nice diversion. SQUIRREL! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #82

I alerted on your post. bvar22 Dec 2015 #111

What were the results? B Calm Dec 2015 #113

Results... Whiskeytide Dec 2015 #115

4-3 to keep. bvar22 Dec 2015 #116

Wow. Now I'm insulted. Whiskeytide Dec 2015 #119

Dude....Dug is NOT homophobic.....know your memes.... msanthrope Dec 2015 #125

No, it is a joke about ADHD and distractions now. wildeyed Dec 2015 #126

You decided it was homophobic? Last time it had racist overtones. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #120

Squirrel is a homophobic insult? Really? yardwork Dec 2015 #149

Seriously?? It's a reference to the Disney movie Up. sufrommich Jan 2016 #164

wow!!! Really!? The term is also from the movie UP... wow come on man!! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #166

and yet Sanders has accepted money from a Super PAC dlwickham Dec 2015 #128

Look, a duck! Android3.14 Dec 2015 #78

There will be no meaningful change humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #79

It's another manufactured "scandal" however if your fantasy redstateblues Dec 2015 #114

Manufactured or real makes no difference humbled_opinion Dec 2015 #133

EXCELLENT! +1 Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #81

It's actually about ethics, courage and intelligence Android3.14 Dec 2015 #86

Ty cindyperry Dec 2015 #87

Senators from New York are supporting Sanders. no text DhhD Dec 2015 #88

Reminder Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #141

I agree. liberalnarb Dec 2015 #91

Damn hippie puncher... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #92

I don't neccessarily support HRC w0nderer Dec 2015 #93

and how to know you are a respected 'ole timer' w0nderer Dec 2015 #94

Oh, so you are a lackey then! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #95

You are just a Sanders Hillary brasher: you have drunk the Sander propaganda lewebley3 Dec 2015 #98

Would "supporter of Oligarchy" work for you? fbc Dec 2015 #99

True... gordyfl Dec 2015 #102

GD-P OP of the Week. oasis Dec 2015 #103

I disagree on whom I support, but I'm still recommending this piece. The only caveat I might offer KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #110

I guess I'm the only oligarch on here dlwickham Dec 2015 #127

No SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #129

we should get buttons made dlwickham Dec 2015 #131

The crap you describe is why I seldom read DU now AndreaCG Dec 2015 #132

I haven't called you any names but am mystified why you would support the candidate that rhett o rick Dec 2015 #134

Great post! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #135

" I've also been called a troll, a liberal, a DUer, and much, much worse. I'm none of those things." SixString Dec 2015 #136

Nice catch. nt Romulox Dec 2015 #142

Nice Try billhicks76 Dec 2015 #140

You can't necessarily dismiss being a "right winger" by claiming to be a "democrat" NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #143

Actually, yes I can, and I did in the OP. MineralMan Dec 2015 #144

As you've said before, you're voting for HRC because you don't like Bernie supporters. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #145

Actually, that is not what I said. MineralMan Dec 2015 #146

Numbers. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #147

Ok, let me quote you since we seem to have different recollections. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #148

Boom there it is! Autumn Jan 2016 #167

Good. I support Sanders, and I'm not a racist, a misogynist, a klan member, a volvo driver, Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #150

K&R liberal N proud Dec 2015 #151

MM, even though I support Bernie Sanders for the primary. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2015 #152

I think your position is very sensible. MineralMan Dec 2015 #153

Honestly, the relentless over-the-top criticism coming from some Sanders supporters... BlueCheese Dec 2015 #154

DU is not in any way representative of MineralMan Dec 2015 #155

Oh, I agree. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #156

What those people posting on such places MineralMan Dec 2015 #157

In terms of endorsements. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #158

Those are great points. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #159

Wanted to add one thing I forgot. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #161

K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #165