2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I am supporting Hillary Clinton. Here's what I am not. [View all]PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)I should be honest in starting out and admit my bias, that being I believe Hillary is a Corporatist.
Please explain to me why you think Bernie can't win the general election, give me numbers and links. I don't care if it's to a giant spreadsheet as I believe a lot of people here will do the work and either come to the same conclusion or respectfully disagree with you.
I live in Kansas, a state that the DNC has given up on making in-roads, that we have a chance to change for the better, from the ground up. I believe that Kansas and some other red states have the possibility to become swing states in the general election if Bernie wins the nomination given his background. He has an opportunity, coming from a rural state with its stance on gun control among other issues, to open people and states up that Republicans have had a lock on after FDR and LBJ. Please don't dismiss this ability offhand.
I would couple this with the way Bernie speaks, the issues he brings up, likely the very cadence of his words. His Charisma as well as his message energizes people on both ends, logic and emotion. I remember hearing about a study or article on brain chemistry between Republicans/Conservatives and Democrats/Liberals. They found the emotional center tended to light up more with the Conservatives as opposed to the Liberals/Democrats which was more logic based(apologies if I'm oversimplifying it more than a bit). Bernie lights up both of those centers I believe and Hillary does not, at least to the extent Bernie does in my opinion. I would add that I think if Trump doesn't get the nomination he will also get some of those disenfranchised, older unemployed White men. Bernie has the ability to open some of their eyes. Oh and please link to the brain article if there are any assertions I should correct, if I'm oversimplifying the article's point.
If Bernie doesn't win there will be people who scatter to the wind because of all the Corporatist ties Hillary has, especially in regards to TPP and her lukewarm rejection(she phrased her rejection of it with a loophole so to speak). I would assert they need to be engaged regardless and apply that energy to their local/state elections and the school board. Republicans build from the ground up and we need to do the same if we want it to last. After all, I think most of us believe in long term vs. short term gains. Presenting this behavior over at least 2 Senate election cycles would help us tremendously.
Well I think I've put up some valid points for discussion.
p.s. For those who don't think Bernie can win in Kansas I direct you to the questionable results Sam Brownback's recent re-election. There are questions about the authenticity of the win and whether voting machine fraud was committed. Keep in mind many moderate Republicans here threw their support to the Democrat.