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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: We the supporters of Bernie Sanders ARE NOT FRINGE. [View all]Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)37. The last Democrat we had for president was Jimmy Carter.
Everything really started going downhill when Reagan got elected in 1980. He destroyed this country. The first shot of the Reagan revolution was busting the Air Traffic Controllers Union.
He also eliminated free tuition in the University of California system, which was an outstanding university system, because the educated kids went out and protested against the Vietnam War, and had sit ins against the war, and people noticed. Instead of acting like kids who were eager to go get killed in a civil war that was not any of our business. I learned this from Thom Hartmann on his radio show on Air America. The powers that be want an uneducated, easily manipulated populace.
General/President Eisenhower said that "America should never get involved in a war in Southeast Asia." Nobody listened to him. Nobody listened to the French imperialists, which Vietnamese forces had driven out.
The young people don't know what a real populist Democrat looks like, because we haven't had a true populist since Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He was a member of the wealthy elite but knew that he had to enact labor laws and put people to work because they were desperate and hungry and he averted a revolution.
Bernie is like FDR plus free college and universal health care and bringing back proper regulation of Wall Street, including reinstating Glass-Steagall.
Read the campaign platform of Norman Thomas in 1932. Most of it was stolen by FDR to avert a violent revolution in the U.S., AFTER FDR got elected. He did not say he would do any of this before he got into office. I know this because my dad was a union organizer in the bad old days of the 1930s when there were no labor laws and no worker protections.
If you showed up on a picket line at Crown Central Petroleum on the Houston Ship Channel, you got your head busted open, hauled off to jail, and had to post $100 bond. Nobody had $100, which was a good months' salary in the 1930s, and so the wife of the only labor lawyer in town, Sophie Mandell, had to bail everyone out of jail.
My parents lived through the depression and told me how desperate people were. They also told me about the Bonus Army, which was a bunch of WW I veterans who marched and camped in Washington to get the bonuses for service they were promised.
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this is the year of marginalizing and emasculation. Trump emasculates his oponents by saying
roguevalley
Jan 2016
#38
Interesting analysis - almost something archetypal at play, maybe? I have
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2016
#84
I don't like the condescending tone of the OP -- But it makes a very valid point
Armstead
Jan 2016
#172
"We will win the primaries and the GE, because after we win the caucuses and the NH primary..."
brooklynite
Jan 2016
#64
Do you think it's funny that big money is able to control our government through campaign
Dustlawyer
Jan 2016
#83
So why do some side with the powerful 1%? Is it the worship of wealth? or worship of
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#136
That's odd, because I haven't heard a single Sanders supporter claim anything of the sort.
Indepatriot
Jan 2016
#113
So we should go with the "insider" then, rather than making a stand for democracy?
Indepatriot
Jan 2016
#156
Feel free then, to let your fear make you vote for the Wall Street War Monger, Tuzla Annie.....
Indepatriot
Jan 2016
#160
I don't see Hillary ever even trying to enact the change the people want, so why not pick Bernie?
cui bono
Jan 2016
#120
I don't believe Mr. Rosevelt is currently seeking the nomination, so it's a moot point...
Indepatriot
Jan 2016
#155
Who in the world cares what people who live in red states think of our Democratic candidates.
JDPriestly
Jan 2016
#45
Bernie isn't a Democrat. He has never had the stomach for the hard work of working inside
KittyWampus
Jan 2016
#73
Bernie was too busy organizing with SNCC (rather than supporting Barry "Nuke 'am all" Goldwater) - n
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2016
#85
As pointed out, Carter was not at all the candidate of the far-Left or Progressives.
KittyWampus
Jan 2016
#74
True, Bernie was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth, as was FDR. That FDR managed to
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2016
#86
Bernie is not remotely like FDR or Obama he's Bernie not the second coming of anyone
FloridaBlues
Jan 2016
#94
Too many of us are afraid to vote our true beliefs, we are all told to "strategize."
reformist2
Jan 2016
#7
I like seeing the HRC followers' replies here so I can know who to add to my ignore list
Ned_Devine
Jan 2016
#24
12% is enough to make HRC lose the election, so maybe don't write us off as fringe.
JonLeibowitz
Jan 2016
#154
You think you can tell Clinton supporters that they've never seen a real Democrat.
pnwmom
Jan 2016
#28
And yet Sanders has a 7% of being the nominee according to Nate Silver and Predictwise
Gothmog
Jan 2016
#30
I guess being issue oriented is what they mean by "fringe." Being in line with the
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2016
#36
Remember, HRC fans are still bitter that Obama beat them running a better campaign
Feeling the Bern
Jan 2016
#39
#1. Plenty of progressives/liberals support a candidate other than Sanders.
KittyWampus
Jan 2016
#71
The reason you do not see them is you are too busy trying to knock down whoever is front of you
nolabels
Jan 2016
#161
Marxist, Communist - anarcist - But I don't see how someone who issue by
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2016
#164
I will support the nominee of the Democratic Party and all polling on the matter
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2016
#173