2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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49. My point is...

Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:25 PM

Jan 2016

that Clinton and others are basically saying that the affluent (not super rich but well off) would be punished if there were a tax increase on upper incomes that might affect them too. Which is a variation of the GOP mantra.

Nobody likes taxes. But if we are to live in a society with a safety net, public services, national defense and other public benefits and protections, then w all have to pony up to some extent. The possibility of offering improved services in exchange for small increases for some upper middle class shouldn't be used as a way to discourage progress.

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None of the Democratic candidates have proposed what this OP said. So I have no idea who the OP is still_one Jan 2016 #1

Well... haikugal Jan 2016 #3

we had a majority. Not sure what is being referred to, but just venturing out slightly to 2008, still_one Jan 2016 #17

Third way types..including Obama. haikugal Jan 2016 #18

Single payer didn't get on the table because the blue dogs had already said the wouldn't vote for it still_one Jan 2016 #20

It was put on the table as a compromise...it didn't happen but it was on the table. nt haikugal Jan 2016 #23

Single Payer-You still float the idea and give the American people a chance to hear about it. jalan48 Jan 2016 #43

Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #44

And where are all those Blue Dogs now even though they voted with the R's? hobbit709 Jan 2016 #19

Excuse me. The republicans did NOT vote for 99% of the Democratic legislation, so your asertion still_one Jan 2016 #28

I'd rather go down fighting than kiss ass on the corporations. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #29

I knew EXACTLY who the OP was about Plucketeer Jan 2016 #48

Blue Dogs like Landrieu lost in 2014. Liberals like Al Franken won. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #57

Mostly thrown out of office by Tea Baggers. Proserpina Jan 2016 #41

That's because the Democrats screwed the pooch on messaging over the years Armstead Jan 2016 #22

If you go by the huge number of emails that I get... Blanks Jan 2016 #47

With less than a month to the Iowa caucuses, it's come to this, sad. George II Jan 2016 #6

it's come to this, sad. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #34

If you want to vote for someone... thesquanderer Jan 2016 #7

To hone your advice a bit more.... Plucketeer Jan 2016 #52

You're right a President can't do any of those things on their own. But... A Simple Game Jan 2016 #21

"a President could not even do" Martin Eden Jan 2016 #33

$250k / hr is fine for her and Bill. $600k / year is fine for Chelsea. $15 / hr is too much for us. Skeeter Barnes Jan 2016 #2

Yeah... haikugal Jan 2016 #4

Ponies are expensive to keep maintain. -none Jan 2016 #12

Yeah people can't afford them because of the giant sucking sound.... haikugal Jan 2016 #15

Wait... I can have a White Elephant instead of a pony? No wonder I support Bernie! n/t A Simple Game Jan 2016 #24

Is the 250K on individual or married? yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #5

Shhh ... 250k IS "a lot"; but, no way near membership of the ownership class ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #10

A small hike for the affluent is NOT a radical screwing of them, especially if.... Armstead Jan 2016 #26

I agree; but, I don't get your point. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #46

My point is... Armstead Jan 2016 #49

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #56

That would depend on many things... Armstead Jan 2016 #59

Well it would include a lot of millionaires. zeemike Jan 2016 #13

But even less of the population when you take out deductions and write offs. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #14

You are right. My income is nowhere near 250K. I was just interested. yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #16

But no one here is saying that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #53

Since when is 5% "a lot" of the population? bread_and_roses Jan 2016 #30

<5% is not a LOT. GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #37

Amazing that so many fall for this transparent crap! Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #8

DAMN RIGHT! hobbit709 Jan 2016 #9

THIS IS WHAT BERNIE'S CAMPAIGN IS ALL ABOUT!!! AlbertCat Jan 2016 #36

Yup. artislife Jan 2016 #51

+100000000 azmom Jan 2016 #60

Fuck yeah, count me in too! kath Jan 2016 #11

-Third-Way-Hoot approves this message. hootinholler Jan 2016 #25

Fuck yeah, k&r! polichick Jan 2016 #27

Hillary dosen't claim to be a Liberal and neither did Obama Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #31

Here's a K&R from Third Way Autumn Autumn Jan 2016 #32

Uh-oh... chervilant Jan 2016 #35

2 of 10 Dem2 Jan 2016 #38

A worthy Homage! You have been promoted to succeed the Great One! Proserpina Jan 2016 #39

Plus sending young Americans to their deaths overseas to protect your investments Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #40

Nicely done. K&R nt TBF Jan 2016 #42

Great post, Bonobo! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #45

K&R nt Duval Jan 2016 #50

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #54

You can be a pro-death penalty, pro-wall street, anti-healthcare, pro-war, anti-living wage Doctor_J Jan 2016 #55

mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them JTFrog Jan 2016 #58