2016 Postmortem

Thinkingabout

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51. You have to look at the bad decisions of Sanders also, staying in the twentieth century is

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:26 PM

Jan 2016

not addressing the problems in the twenty first century. You bring up one vote, I can bring up the five times Sanders voted against the Brady Bill, his vote on ILA, he has also voted for military action more than once, so no Sanders has not always made the right decisions. Sanders was for civil unions in 2009 so the stories he has not always been for gay marriage publically.

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In 2008 I was a Clinton supporter throughout most of the primary season [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 OP

Welcome to the Side of the Light, Tom! Proserpina Jan 2016 #1

I have supported Sanders all along Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #5

I remember you supporting hillary. Welcome. Very good post. roguevalley Jan 2016 #13

Apparently, Foreign Policy and war or peace doesn't weigh too prominently in your calculus leveymg Jan 2016 #2

There are reasons why they were not among my top four choices in 2008 Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #8

Happy to have you join us! People power! nt nc4bo Jan 2016 #3

Well said. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #4

Well said. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #6

Well said. We NEED Bernie. And he will bring voters out on election day. cui bono Jan 2016 #7

Seeing what you have shown Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #22

Great post jkbRN Jan 2016 #9

I was too. Switched support to Obama later. Triana Jan 2016 #10

Exactly how I feel. Funtatlaguy Jan 2016 #17

Even though we don't agree on the candidates, I have to K&R this. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #11

Thank you. Your words are greatly appreciated. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #12

Well stated. Well thought out. Appreciated. TryLogic Jan 2016 #14

As your post points out, the time will indeed soon come for unity. silvershadow Jan 2016 #15

Very well reasoned post, Tom. I agree. Duval Jan 2016 #16

Good post. Iggo Jan 2016 #18

Marvelous post! nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #19

Bravo! Paka Jan 2016 #20

smart reasoning Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #21

Tom, I respect what you say...since you are a long time Dem and DU'er.... KoKo Jan 2016 #23

We can I think find agreement in hoping for this I think... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #24

I understand your caution and was on that side of view.... KoKo Jan 2016 #25

I see a lot of what you are saying also Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #28

.! KoKo Jan 2016 #49

What? MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #36

Status quo-- indeed. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #26

excellent post. thank you Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #27

Since I do not prefer to remain in the twentieth century l want a Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #29

Believing in her leadership ability is a solid reason for supporting Hillary Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #31

re: "ability to make decisions based on the information currently available" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #50

You have to look at the bad decisions of Sanders also, staying in the twentieth century is Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #51

no one is perfect, but I think you overstate the other side thesquanderer Jan 2016 #53

When Hillary ran for president in 2008 I started researching her background as I did with Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #54

I don't understand the relevance of your post thesquanderer Jan 2016 #55

I stated I researched the candidates who entered races, I sought information on the Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #56

Those questions were responses to your criticisms of Bernie's "bad decisions" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #60

Did you watch the last debate? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #61

If you're going to put these forward as bad decisions on his part thesquanderer Jan 2016 #62

Can I assume you understand the ILA. There are Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #63

Yes, once you spelled out the acronym, I knew what ILA was. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #64

This was a point Sanders brought out in the debate about Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #67

Medicare, etc. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #69

I meant to say medical cost, it needs to go down and then medicare Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #70

Got it. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #71

Most harm comes from the complacent left who expect one PERSON shows. They want FDR... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #30

I agree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #32

Obama has to lead a movement and be president at the same time!? REALLY!?!! This is what uponit7771 Jan 2016 #33

It's not the "complacent left"...That's facile and inaccurate Armstead Jan 2016 #66

Oh yes it is the complacent left who are wanting FDR actions without getting an FDR congress... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #72

Not surprisingly, you missed or ignored my point Armstead Jan 2016 #75

I fundamentally disagree with you Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #76

The left didn't "carry its weight", FDR had an 80% congress... the job wasn't finished in 2010 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #79

Sanders supported the Affordable Care Act... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #80

Were not just talking about the ACA and we both know that, out of the 21n342n trillion things Obama uponit7771 Jan 2016 #81

I appreciate your pointing out that social change is not confined to winning elections Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #78

Sorry but I don't see people unifying behind a corporate Democrat. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #34

Excellent post, Tom BernTheRich Jan 2016 #35

He's that very rare combination of a decent human being in politics... MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #37

That is one of the most thoughtful posts I have ever read here. SheilaT Jan 2016 #38

An excellent read. blackspade Jan 2016 #39

K&R. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #40

My thought process is pretty much on par with yours. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #41

I'm on board with you and Tom eridani Jan 2016 #42

The one part that stood out more than anything for me was davidpdx Jan 2016 #43

Your second point on the status quo about the Democratic Party needing to stop the revolving door DhhD Jan 2016 #47

Eloquent and positive. Please post more Ops like this one. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #44

Thank you all for your responses and feedback Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #45

K&R nt raouldukelives Jan 2016 #46

Kick!!! Faux pas Jan 2016 #48

Thanks for your eloquent post. archiemo Jan 2016 #52

In 2008, I switched from Clinton to Obama as well... brooklynite Jan 2016 #57

i like this tune much better than... SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #58

What tune is that? brooklynite Jan 2016 #59

As usual you hit the nail on the head..We have narowed the field of possibility Armstead Jan 2016 #65

Something aboout Hillary often brings out the pragmatic in me, I admit it. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #68

NAIL Hits HEAD! This Is What It Is! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #74

Fantastic Post! Just Gonna Give It A Huge Kick, And ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #73

k&r polichick Jan 2016 #77