2016 Postmortem

Thinkingabout

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54. When Hillary ran for president in 2008 I started researching her background as I did with

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 02:13 PM

Jan 2016

George W Bush when he ran for governor, Obama after his keynote speech, as I did MOM in his presidential run and I have also with Bernie Sanders. Information is easily available, though some seems to be covered or not easily found but after early information I found on Bush I have learned to save information in my personal files.

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In 2008 I was a Clinton supporter throughout most of the primary season [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 OP

Welcome to the Side of the Light, Tom! Proserpina Jan 2016 #1

I have supported Sanders all along Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #5

I remember you supporting hillary. Welcome. Very good post. roguevalley Jan 2016 #13

Apparently, Foreign Policy and war or peace doesn't weigh too prominently in your calculus leveymg Jan 2016 #2

There are reasons why they were not among my top four choices in 2008 Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #8

Happy to have you join us! People power! nt nc4bo Jan 2016 #3

Well said. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #4

Well said. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #6

Well said. We NEED Bernie. And he will bring voters out on election day. cui bono Jan 2016 #7

Seeing what you have shown Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #22

Great post jkbRN Jan 2016 #9

I was too. Switched support to Obama later. Triana Jan 2016 #10

Exactly how I feel. Funtatlaguy Jan 2016 #17

Even though we don't agree on the candidates, I have to K&R this. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #11

Thank you. Your words are greatly appreciated. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #12

Well stated. Well thought out. Appreciated. TryLogic Jan 2016 #14

As your post points out, the time will indeed soon come for unity. silvershadow Jan 2016 #15

Very well reasoned post, Tom. I agree. Duval Jan 2016 #16

Good post. Iggo Jan 2016 #18

Marvelous post! nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #19

Bravo! Paka Jan 2016 #20

smart reasoning Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #21

Tom, I respect what you say...since you are a long time Dem and DU'er.... KoKo Jan 2016 #23

We can I think find agreement in hoping for this I think... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #24

I understand your caution and was on that side of view.... KoKo Jan 2016 #25

I see a lot of what you are saying also Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #28

.! KoKo Jan 2016 #49

What? MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #36

Status quo-- indeed. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #26

excellent post. thank you Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #27

Since I do not prefer to remain in the twentieth century l want a Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #29

Believing in her leadership ability is a solid reason for supporting Hillary Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #31

re: "ability to make decisions based on the information currently available" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #50

You have to look at the bad decisions of Sanders also, staying in the twentieth century is Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #51

no one is perfect, but I think you overstate the other side thesquanderer Jan 2016 #53

When Hillary ran for president in 2008 I started researching her background as I did with Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #54

I don't understand the relevance of your post thesquanderer Jan 2016 #55

I stated I researched the candidates who entered races, I sought information on the Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #56

Those questions were responses to your criticisms of Bernie's "bad decisions" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #60

Did you watch the last debate? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #61

If you're going to put these forward as bad decisions on his part thesquanderer Jan 2016 #62

Can I assume you understand the ILA. There are Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #63

Yes, once you spelled out the acronym, I knew what ILA was. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #64

This was a point Sanders brought out in the debate about Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #67

Medicare, etc. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #69

I meant to say medical cost, it needs to go down and then medicare Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #70

Got it. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #71

Most harm comes from the complacent left who expect one PERSON shows. They want FDR... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #30

I agree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #32

Obama has to lead a movement and be president at the same time!? REALLY!?!! This is what uponit7771 Jan 2016 #33

It's not the "complacent left"...That's facile and inaccurate Armstead Jan 2016 #66

Oh yes it is the complacent left who are wanting FDR actions without getting an FDR congress... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #72

Not surprisingly, you missed or ignored my point Armstead Jan 2016 #75

I fundamentally disagree with you Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #76

The left didn't "carry its weight", FDR had an 80% congress... the job wasn't finished in 2010 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #79

Sanders supported the Affordable Care Act... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #80

Were not just talking about the ACA and we both know that, out of the 21n342n trillion things Obama uponit7771 Jan 2016 #81

I appreciate your pointing out that social change is not confined to winning elections Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #78

Sorry but I don't see people unifying behind a corporate Democrat. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #34

Excellent post, Tom BernTheRich Jan 2016 #35

He's that very rare combination of a decent human being in politics... MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #37

That is one of the most thoughtful posts I have ever read here. SheilaT Jan 2016 #38

An excellent read. blackspade Jan 2016 #39

K&R. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #40

My thought process is pretty much on par with yours. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #41

I'm on board with you and Tom eridani Jan 2016 #42

The one part that stood out more than anything for me was davidpdx Jan 2016 #43

Your second point on the status quo about the Democratic Party needing to stop the revolving door DhhD Jan 2016 #47

Eloquent and positive. Please post more Ops like this one. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #44

Thank you all for your responses and feedback Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #45

K&R nt raouldukelives Jan 2016 #46

Kick!!! Faux pas Jan 2016 #48

Thanks for your eloquent post. archiemo Jan 2016 #52

In 2008, I switched from Clinton to Obama as well... brooklynite Jan 2016 #57

i like this tune much better than... SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #58

What tune is that? brooklynite Jan 2016 #59

As usual you hit the nail on the head..We have narowed the field of possibility Armstead Jan 2016 #65

Something aboout Hillary often brings out the pragmatic in me, I admit it. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #68

NAIL Hits HEAD! This Is What It Is! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #74

Fantastic Post! Just Gonna Give It A Huge Kick, And ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #73

k&r polichick Jan 2016 #77