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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: In 2008 I was a Clinton supporter throughout most of the primary season [View all]thesquanderer
(13,179 posts)69. Medicare, etc.
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" I have gotten the feeling some may think it will be without any cost but it isn't true."
Agreed.
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" I would like to see the cost of Medicare going down, this may be the priority and then get a national health insurance."
I don't see Medicare cost going down, because the size of the trust find is already declining. I think the only way it could possibly go down for some is to get everyone into the system and lower medical costs and/or raise total available funds overall. In other words, national health insurance may be the best route to get the individual cost of Medicare down. I don't know that it would happen, but I don't see any other likely way it could happen. I mean, how would you suggest financing the cost of what you want (Medicare costs per person going down), if not by expanding it into a universal system? Though honestly, I wouldn't expect it to go down regardless, at least in the near term. Nobody is campaigning on reducing what we as individuals pay into these systems. Well, no Dem, anyway. Are you sure you're in the right party?
Seriously, that is kind of the distinction when it comes to social programs... Repubs often want to cut what people pay and also cut benefits; Dems want to maintain or increase benefits, but not cut what people pay. Or as they say, you generally can't have your cake and eat it too. Maybe, if we get universal health care, there will eventually be enough surplus to reduce individual costs, but I don't see it happening now.
As for regime change, the only reason it came up is that you listed ILA as a bad vote. Maybe it is... nobody is claiming that anyone gets every position right 100% of the time. But if you're going to suggest that Hillary would make the better decisions of the two (as in your post #29 that started this thread), it doesn't really make sense to list "bad" Sanders positions that were the same as Hillary's positions.
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In 2008 I was a Clinton supporter throughout most of the primary season [View all]
Tom Rinaldo
Jan 2016
OP
Apparently, Foreign Policy and war or peace doesn't weigh too prominently in your calculus
leveymg
Jan 2016
#2
Believing in her leadership ability is a solid reason for supporting Hillary
Tom Rinaldo
Jan 2016
#31
re: "ability to make decisions based on the information currently available"
thesquanderer
Jan 2016
#50
You have to look at the bad decisions of Sanders also, staying in the twentieth century is
Thinkingabout
Jan 2016
#51
When Hillary ran for president in 2008 I started researching her background as I did with
Thinkingabout
Jan 2016
#54
I stated I researched the candidates who entered races, I sought information on the
Thinkingabout
Jan 2016
#56
Those questions were responses to your criticisms of Bernie's "bad decisions"
thesquanderer
Jan 2016
#60
Most harm comes from the complacent left who expect one PERSON shows. They want FDR...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#30
Obama has to lead a movement and be president at the same time!? REALLY!?!! This is what
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#33
Oh yes it is the complacent left who are wanting FDR actions without getting an FDR congress...
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#72
The left didn't "carry its weight", FDR had an 80% congress... the job wasn't finished in 2010
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#79
Were not just talking about the ACA and we both know that, out of the 21n342n trillion things Obama
uponit7771
Jan 2016
#81
I appreciate your pointing out that social change is not confined to winning elections
Tom Rinaldo
Jan 2016
#78
Your second point on the status quo about the Democratic Party needing to stop the revolving door
DhhD
Jan 2016
#47
As usual you hit the nail on the head..We have narowed the field of possibility
Armstead
Jan 2016
#65